Some have even recently referred to him as a journalist. lol.

Really bad that people spreading the email deception don't get how bad they are being ratfucked even when it is Goodman and blatantly obvious.

Goodman was a Paul supporter until he saw dollar signs in another direction. Since that point he has obviously become ratfucker extraordinaire.

Second is that some have recently, and laughable, referred to this winger as a journalist.

His message is directed at LIV's and it works on a very small group. Goodman is pulling a Fox News on a small group on the left. Gotta make a living. Probably sits there in his office at night saying "I love the poorly educated."

Fuck this right wing ratfucker.

is ..... "Well, a Lot of people do this...Gen Powell etc".

on Powells emails-Thank you!
However-that is what I am hearing from "pundits".

Powell has said that, when he took over State (from Albright, I guess), there was almost nothing in place. He had to create the system. He also said that he occasionally used his private email account--private accounts like most of us, have, not a private server, like most of us don't have--for some purely administrative matters.

Hillary wanted control.

A control, in my opinion that comes from a sense of paranoia or persecution.

I don't know if she did anything illegal with this whole email server thing ... I think more importantly it shows in her Nixon-like control behavior.

And that concerns me a whole lot more than if she did anything illegal.

Who was looped into this wall-off world that was her server?

I read that hardly anyone had her email address, not even John Kerry, and that they communicated to her through her assistants.

Did she conduct all official State business off of this server?

What about planning the overthrow of Libya? Robert Kagan, the founder of the neocon movement was one of her primary Middle East advisers. Any emails regarding Libya that demonstrate what she was doing? Obama has been quoted as distancing himself from what happened in Libya, calling it, "Hillary's project." Was she engaging in these high-level activities, while being advised by Kagan? What was Obama's role in all of this? How much was he 'in the loop'?

I'd like to know the logistics here, because it could give us some incredible insight into how she ran things.

Sounded like bs to me, so I asked a couple of obvious questions.

Noted that it was common knowledge that the State Dept servers were unreliable. That's why Colin Powell used a private server when has Secretary of State.

Note that nobody ever investigated Powell for doing so.

I saw him interviewed about this on TV. See replies 7 and 13. Thanks.

BTW, Mother Jones does not know more about what Powell did than Powell himself knows.

If I had done a tenth of what these three posts alone say, I'd be in jail, just as Susan McDougal was.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=post&forum=1251&pid=1434455

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1435952

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1436093

That doesn't excuse her for setting up a standalone system.

The fact is IT at the state department under Clinton massively degraded and weakened. The audits after her tenure were brutal. Google it for yourself if you don't believe me.

are understandably cautious and other rationalizations galore.

Fact: Our legal system depends a great deal on people telling the truth when under oath and producing everything they've been asked to produce and without getting rid of anything before they comply.

Fact: When Hillary was subpoenaed, she took two years to comply, claiming the papers that had been subpoenaed had just turned up in the family dining room of the White House. This strained credulity, to say the least.

Fact: Susan McDougal went to jail rather than answer three questions about Bill Clinton. Not about herself, not about her husband, but about Bill Clinton.

Fact: Bill Clinton indisputably lied under oath on national television, in addition to parsing what the definition of is, is.

Fact: Hillary has been caught in some whoppers, though not created while she was under oath.

Fact: Hillary took two years to comply with an FOIA request, wiping her server first.

Fact: the man who set up the server for her took the Fifth when questioned.

Fact: The FBI, in the Executive Branch of a Democratic President, thought there was enough there to investigate.

Fact: A major part of the job description of a US President is faithful execution of our laws.

Fact: I expect this post to be alerted on, even though it contains only facts. If I am correct, that in itself will speak volumes, no matter what a jury decides to do with the alert.

Make of those facts whatever you will.

On Friday I think.

When she testified, her answers were as limited and guarded as if no deal had been made. And whoever in Congress was questioning her did lousy jobs of it. It was little more than a dog and pony show for the TV cameras on both sides.

Whether people don't want to look bad or don't want to give up people they worked with or for, or whatever, the immunity deal is not a guaranty that the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth will come out.

I honestly don't expect much to come from the guy who set up the server. I don't even really expect him to be questioned very skillfully. Goodling sure wasn't and that was televised.

Dang!) See also: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=post&forum=1251&pid=1434455

Most government regulations on this level contain similar loopholes. So she is perfectly within her rights to delete emails she deems personal. It's only if someone is caught attempting to delete official information that a problem arises.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]"There is a crack in everything. That's how the light gets in."
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They need to clear her or charge her ASAP. At the moment we have a second viable candidate in the race. In October we won't.

Maybe she engaged in criminal activity. Maybe she didn't. Maybe this IT dude who was granted immunity will reveal substantive information that will lead to an indictment. Maybe what little he will say will provide nothing.

Whatever is going on, needs to be wrapped up sooner, rather than later.

Clear her and let's move on--or convene a grand jury, indict her--whatever.

And Clinton needs to call off her dogs, when it comes to bullying Sanders out of this race. She has no business telling half of the party and a formidable opponent to exit a political race.

We're in it for the long haul, honey. Don't like it...tough!

I don't know what game you're playing. Deal me out.

Not even close. And Reply 13 spells that out. You're claim that I am the only playing games appears to be projection, at best.

I have a private Yahoo email account, but I don't own my own email server.

specifically and clearly state that a private email account, which most Americans have, is very different from a private server.

I am not the one playing games.

This whole "But the Bushes did it too!" defense, even if it were accurate, is not really much of a defense.

If we let Bush's precedent determine what is right and wrong, we are truly doomed. It won't stop with email.

In fact iirc, Clinton is the only Administration member to have ever had their own private server

with a public server when looking to profit.

they may have been too lazy to worry with security protocols. You idea is more likely the real truth.

before the server was even set up.

her records inside the white house for two years, until they mysteriously appeared in the dining room of the family quarters was not really plausible.

Its that when they first asked for them she deleted a bunch saying they were personal, how does anyone know that?

Why was there never a permanent Inspector General at State during her tenure?

I've assumed so without asking.

yet for her entire tenure at State Hillary somehow managed to have a temporary person in there.


State Department Lacked Top Watchdog During Hillary Clinton Tenure


It is scandalous, really.

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