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flpoljunkie

(26,184 posts)
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 01:31 PM Oct 2012

Scared? Get scared.

Last edited Mon Oct 15, 2012, 03:22 PM - Edit history (1)

Scared? Get Scared

It's looking like a Romney victory -- inter alia -- would mean Medicare abolished and replaced with a voucher program this Spring.

From Jon Chait ...

Let's first imagine that, on January 20, Romney takes the oath of office. Of the many secret post-victory plans floating around in the inner circles of the campaigns, the least secret is Romney's intention to implement Paul Ryan's budget. The Ryan budget has come to be almost synonymous with the Republican Party agenda, and Romney has embraced it with only slight variations. It would repeal Obamacare, cut income-tax rates, turn Medicare for people under 55 years old into subsidized private insurance, increase defense spending, and cut domestic spending, with especially large cuts for Medicaid, food stamps, and other programs targeted to the very poor.

Few voters understand just how rapidly Romney could achieve this, rewriting the American social compact in one swift stroke. Ryan’s plan has never attracted Democratic support, but it is not designed for bipartisanship. Ryan deliberately built it to circumvent a Senate filibuster, stocking the plan with budget legislation that is allowed, under Senate “budget reconciliation” procedures, to pass with a simple majority. Republicans have been planning the mechanics of the vote for many months, and Republican insiders expect Romney to use reconciliation to pass the bill. Republicans would still need to control 50 votes in the Senate (Ryan, as vice-president, would cast the tiebreaking vote), but if Romney wins the presidency, he’ll likely precipitate a partywide tail wind that would extend to the GOP’s Senate slate.

10.15.2012 — 12:13 PM — JOSH MARSHALL

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2012/10/scared_get_scared.php?m=1
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joycejnr

(326 posts)
1. I'm petrified, but there's always the Senate...
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 01:34 PM
Oct 2012

...where the Republicans have taught us some valuable lessons in obstructionism in the past term. It'll be our turn.

flpoljunkie

(26,184 posts)
3. Ryan's plan is designed to circumvent a filibuster
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 01:44 PM
Oct 2012
Few voters understand just how rapidly Romney could achieve this, rewriting the American social compact in one swift stroke. Ryan’s plan has never attracted Democratic support, but it is not designed for bipartisanship. Ryan deliberately built it to circumvent a Senate filibuster, stocking the plan with budget legislation that is allowed, under Senate “budget reconciliation” procedures, to pass with a simple majority. Republicans have been planning the mechanics of the vote for many months, and Republican insiders expect Romney to use reconciliation to pass the bill. Republicans would still need to control 50 votes in the Senate (Ryan, as vice-president, would cast the tiebreaking vote), but if Romney wins the presidency, he’ll likely precipitate a partywide tail wind that would extend to the GOP’s Senate slate.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2012/10/scared_get_scared.php?m=1

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
16. The filibuster won't help much because they intend to pass most of this using the
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 11:54 PM
Oct 2012

budget reconciliation process, which requires only a majority vote.

We must keep them from getting even a bare majority in the Senate.

Blue Idaho

(5,049 posts)
4. I refuse to operate out of fear.
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 01:49 PM
Oct 2012

Fear can be paralyzing and demoralizing - but I will continue to do all I can to help our President win a second term in office. I will donate what I can when I can, offer rides to the polls, make phone calls, and anything else I have the time and money for.

I carry an old first aid card from Jr. High and on it it says "Knowledge Replaces Fear." I like that!

Lets go FORWARD together and win this damn thing!

FrenchieCat

(68,867 posts)
6. Can you imagine the Republican assholes who would be appointed to a Romney Cabinet....??????
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 01:51 PM
Oct 2012

Now, that should be motivation enough to go out and vote for Obama, if nothing else does it!

Zoeisright

(8,339 posts)
7. I'm not going to be scared.
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 02:19 PM
Oct 2012

American deserves what she gets. And if Rmoney steals it, then the suffering is earned.

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
8. Don't get comfortable if you're over 56 either, they'll change Medicare
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 02:41 PM
Oct 2012

for everyone. Let's hope we never find out just how much damage they'd do.

In GD an article says minimum $200 mo. increase for Medicare users.

Rosa Luxemburg

(28,627 posts)
9. I don't think enough voters know that Romney wants to get rid of Medicare
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 02:44 PM
Oct 2012

the older age groups would be angry and scared but the message isn't getting through.

amborin

(16,631 posts)
12. not enough know about how Medicaid will be slashed.
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 04:49 PM
Oct 2012

Nor that the deficit is a take issue.

I hope the campaign has good ads to combat the ones targeting swing state moms--scaring them about the deficit. Bernie Sanders has goog insights on it:

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Plus, Romney left Mass. With a big deficit. He was a big spender. Hope the message is getting out there.

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
13. It's one reason why Romney refuses to get specific about any damn thing.....
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 04:52 PM
Oct 2012

and no one can seem to nail his squirrel hide to a tree and get those specifics disclosed and exposed.

ancianita

(36,060 posts)
14. If, by "get specific," you mean 'open and honest.'
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 06:12 PM
Oct 2012

He should be attacked at all times for denying everything he's ever taken a stand on.

flpoljunkie

(26,184 posts)
17. Believe that, if elected, Romney would ram thru Ryan's budget, repeal Obamacare, voucherize Medicare
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 08:57 AM
Oct 2012

That's why we must work very hard to make sure Romney does not have a chance to pass Ryan's 'marvelous' budget.

lillypaddle

(9,580 posts)
18. Frankly, I do believe that
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 03:36 PM
Oct 2012

and I am scared. But I'd like a little break from the fear mongering, at least here on DU. I think we all know what would happen if rmoney is elected. We don't need the fear to be motivated.

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