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babylonsister

(171,066 posts)
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 01:58 PM Oct 2012

Debate Disaster in the Making

Opinions on how fair Crowley will be? I have my doubts, so this is troubling...

http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2012/10/15/10337/924

Debate Disaster in the Making

by BooMan
Mon Oct 15th, 2012 at 10:03:37 AM EST



So, CNN's Candy Crowley, who is going to moderate tomorrow's townhall-style presidential debate, wants to interject herself into the Q & A of the contenders by the public despite that not being what either campaign agreed to.

While an early October memorandum of understanding between the Obama and Romney campaigns suggests CNN’s Candy Crowley would play a limited role in the Tuesday-night session, Crowley, who is not a party to that agreement, has done a series of interviews on her network in which she has suggested she will assume a broader set of responsibilities. As Crowley put it last week, “Once the table is kind of set by the town-hall questioner, there is then time for me to say, ‘Hey, wait a second, what about X, Y, Z?’”

In the view of both campaigns and the commission, those and other recent comments by Crowley conflict with the language the two campaigns agreed to, which delineates a more limited role for the moderator of the town-hall debate. The questioning of the two candidates is supposed to be driven by the audience members themselves — likely voters selected by the Gallup Organization.


I guess Ms. Crowley heard all the criticism that Jim Lehrer received for being a potted plant and she doesn't want to get the same treatment. I can't say that I blame her. Personally, I would prefer it if she would call bullshit because otherwise that becomes the president's job. And the president would rather answer the voters' questions than spend all his time correcting whatever it is that Romney just said.

Newt Gingrich said (about Romney) that it is impossible to debate a liar. I don't think it is impossible, but it is more difficult if there is no moderator willing to challenge blatant falsehoods and flip-flops. In the Saturday Night Live skit of the first debate, they had Jim Lehrer tell the president that Romney had just claimed credit for killing bin-Laden. They got that wrong. Jim Lehrer probably wouldn't have even mentioned a lie like that. At least, that's what his record on that night tells us. We don't need a repeat of that.

On the other hand, Candy Crowley's idea of the truth has never been all that firm, so maybe she should just stay out of it.
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Debate Disaster in the Making (Original Post) babylonsister Oct 2012 OP
She's a 'Puke shill. nt Guy Whitey Corngood Oct 2012 #1
IMO, the Commission should replace her with someone who will gkhouston Oct 2012 #2
Dan Rather :) Rosco T. Oct 2012 #5
Big Bird. glinda Oct 2012 #6
Ernie and Bert! nt barnabas63 Oct 2012 #15
Prediction for her input bongbong Oct 2012 #3
You left out this part Hutzpa Oct 2012 #18
the problem with comparing her role to Lehrer is that the audience is there to perform it CreekDog Oct 2012 #4
CNN is now same as Faux news; Ted Turner left partly for that reason yrs ago...and, amborin Oct 2012 #7
Bet on it. bemildred Oct 2012 #8
Candyass Scowley is a pig Zoeisright Oct 2012 #9
CNN was running an ad for the debate last night. Tagline: "Obama, Romney, Crowley".. Princess Turandot Oct 2012 #10
Candy's questions are too long; she likes to talk. Martha was successful because she was succinct. Justice Oct 2012 #11
They are not her questions leftynyc Oct 2012 #12
Not concerned in the least MSMITH33156 Oct 2012 #13
I disagree...Obama can defend the economy handsomely. Now Wrongney...will hurt more Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2012 #14
Why can't we have Christiane Amanpour! hamsterjill Oct 2012 #16
They need to keep a short leash on her. nt Comrade_McKenzie Oct 2012 #17
A shameless Republican stooge NHDEMFORLIFE Oct 2012 #19
Romney camp knew this would be the outcome. Lone_Star_Dem Oct 2012 #20

gkhouston

(21,642 posts)
2. IMO, the Commission should replace her with someone who will
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 02:01 PM
Oct 2012

respect the guidelines laid down for the debate.

 

bongbong

(5,436 posts)
3. Prediction for her input
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 03:50 PM
Oct 2012

"Mr. President, can you elaborate on your last answer, and then explain why you hate America?"

"Governor Esteemed Mr Perfect Romney, what are your favorite colors, and how does this reflect your love of the Middle Class?"

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
4. the problem with comparing her role to Lehrer is that the audience is there to perform it
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 04:13 PM
Oct 2012

in the case of Lehrer, he was it. so whatever he neglected got left out.

but in the case of the audience, what one audience member asks, another can ask something else, or something related.

i do like the idea of a journalist pressing for an answer if one is not given --i don't really trust Crowley to do that in any fair way.

amborin

(16,631 posts)
7. CNN is now same as Faux news; Ted Turner left partly for that reason yrs ago...and,
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 08:24 PM
Oct 2012

on another note:

are Romney's deficit ads being countered?

the ones about the the women and the baby and how the deficit will harm
future generations?

it really needs to be countered

Princess Turandot

(4,787 posts)
10. CNN was running an ad for the debate last night. Tagline: "Obama, Romney, Crowley"..
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 09:39 AM
Oct 2012

I saw it twice last night on TNT. The gist of it was 'this is the Pres debate, CNN style' and briefly talked up her experience, like they were promoting a fucking talk show.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
12. They are not her questions
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 09:47 AM
Oct 2012

There are questions being sent by audience members and others that will be picked by CC. Her job is to pick the questions and the order they are asked.

MSMITH33156

(879 posts)
13. Not concerned in the least
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 10:10 AM
Oct 2012

the bar has been set so low for Obama, that he will exceed the expectations. Tonight will be the end of the election, and Obama will have it.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
14. I disagree...Obama can defend the economy handsomely. Now Wrongney...will hurt more
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 10:21 AM
Oct 2012

since he has a zillion lies and flip flops

NHDEMFORLIFE

(489 posts)
19. A shameless Republican stooge
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 02:29 PM
Oct 2012

The best we can hope for is that she becomes sufficiently intimidated by the setting and keeps her babbling to herself.

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