2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumListening to Chris Matthews right now...
His guest (missed who it is) is saying that President Obama's five-point lead is holding steady, that the ground game and early voting efforts there are paying off, and that (as we know), Romney's electoral path without Ohio is extremely difficult and unlikely.
GOTV!!
graham4anything
(11,464 posts)it's a rightwing myth that Reagan only won at the debate
He was leading earlier than that.
and Mondale and Dukakis and Bob Dole and Barry Goldwater and George McGovern also thought they were coming back and the laugh was on them.
TroyD
(4,551 posts)Correct?
GallopingGhost
(2,404 posts)I was running around doing housework (like dishes, HA) so was listening, not watching.
regnaD kciN
(26,044 posts)...that five-point lead is just the guest's opinion. Current poll composites give Obama a 1.3-point lead -- and that's likely to drop or even vanish with tomorrow's PPP numbers already admitted to be very good for Romney. Leads that small have been overcome before. Tomorrow's debate, plus the work we put into the campaign from now on, may prove decisive.
graham4anything
(11,464 posts)the 1.3 is in SOME national polls that include rightwing ones that have been repudiated
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)I'm confused. I didn't know PPP was about to release another Ohio poll. Has the race shifted that much since their last poll?
Maximumnegro
(1,134 posts)left to fall!
graham4anything
(11,464 posts)and though they say he can win elsewhere, that would mean he would win Ohio if he swept.
It ain't happning.
Maximumnegro
(1,134 posts)in my mind. I trust Obama completely and I think they have a game plan to win as big as possible. But yeah OH+NV = done. This just shows the power of narrative - people just refuse to see how difficult it is for Romney to win. Dems say they are reality-based but still just accept whatever they're told and then decide to cry or...shout (with hesitation and lots of cautionary remarks). So easy to sucker into doom and gloom and worry. Arithmetic. Romney is not going to win Ohio. Not going to happen. And it doesn't matter if Obama is 5pts ahead there or .5pt ahead (onoz, they will steal!!!!) a win is a win and that is too much ground for Romney to make up in a state that hates his guts, even when the rest of the country saw a bounce.
AlinPA
(15,071 posts)Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)He also has to pull out Virginia or he is hosed.
believeinhope
(16 posts)the debate tomorrow will likely be decisive.
if the 10/3 Obama shows up and gives a repeat performance, Romney will likely win in 3 weeks.
If Obama recovers and wins or even has a draw, then he's in good shape.
But he can't afford another loss.
Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)If Obama lays as egg, he is done, as are the rest of us. If he wins or fights his way to a tie, we win. I do think Romney will fade in the end, he has a tendency to do that. People just do not like him. There is something about him that irritates people. The odds of him blowing it at the town hall are good, especially if someone asks him a nasty question. I hope Candy does not get to pick the questions they pose to him.