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longship

(40,416 posts)
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 10:01 PM Mar 2016

More gravy on the pasties please!

Last edited Tue Mar 8, 2016, 10:39 PM - Edit history (1)

Here in Michigan Finlanders take pasties very seriously. One puts gravy on them, not ketchup! And the more rutabaga in them, the better.

So let me now give you all a suitable recipe for a traditional Welsh, Oopsie Cornish dish, imported by Finns into the copper and iron mines of the U.P. of Michigan.

Celebrate Michigan's primary with this traditional food.



Yup! It is very, very yummy to the tummy!

My Finnish mother made them from scratch throughout my life. The best of the best. But I confess bias here.

You decide. I drove nearly 15 miles around a national forest to my township hall to vote for Bernie today. YMMV.


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More gravy on the pasties please! (Original Post) longship Mar 2016 OP
It looks delish and I'm always looking for new foods to try. Thanks for posting monmouth4 Mar 2016 #1
Pasties are what strippers put on to hide the nipples. bunnies Mar 2016 #2
I believe it's pronounced past eeze, not paste eeze. grossproffit Mar 2016 #4
lol. That changes things. bunnies Mar 2016 #6
Yes please! Recursion Mar 2016 #3
That reminds me of something I've been meaning to ask you: Ken Burch Mar 2016 #10
No, though Burger King has a mutton whopper Recursion Mar 2016 #15
Sounds like stuff I've got to try if I ever get there. Ken Burch Mar 2016 #19
Matt Yglesias had a great idea for McDonalds. They should open a flagship branch in NYC somewhere Recursion Mar 2016 #21
I'd like to see that happen. It'd be epic. Ken Burch Mar 2016 #26
Lamb Samosas with gravy instead of curd? Paulie Mar 2016 #16
Exactly Recursion Mar 2016 #23
Lamb would work well. longship Mar 2016 #18
I'm more of a parsnip man Recursion Mar 2016 #20
Garlic would rock! And rutabaga IS a turnip, so you are cool there. longship Mar 2016 #27
We'd have pasty sales to raise money for our volunteer fire department Kaleva Mar 2016 #5
You have a good Finnish nom de plume. longship Mar 2016 #9
I would eat those plain. The recipe looks too tasty Cleita Mar 2016 #7
Welsh? enlightenment Mar 2016 #8
Oh dear! Of course, always cubed! longship Mar 2016 #13
I agree - cubed. enlightenment Mar 2016 #35
I love pasties too Gwhittey Mar 2016 #11
Looks yummy! marlakay Mar 2016 #12
Cornish miners brought the pasties to Michigan gollygee Mar 2016 #14
There are no Cornish miners in the UP. longship Mar 2016 #22
There were gollygee Mar 2016 #25
Who the heck would put ketchup on that? tabasco Mar 2016 #17
So, what do you have against turnips? AtomicKitten Mar 2016 #24
Pastie, not pastry! nt longship Mar 2016 #28
I'm talking about the pastry part of the pastie. AtomicKitten Mar 2016 #29
We had such a great pastie bakery in Berkley Little_Wing Mar 2016 #30
When I was a kid, my father would drive down to the old Finn neighborhood for pasties. longship Mar 2016 #32
Yeah, but how does one make them stick to one's nipples? valerief Mar 2016 #31
You are forgiven. With Finns, a sense of humor is a requirement. longship Mar 2016 #34
Here is something just for the Flint old timers. Snotcicles Mar 2016 #33
 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
10. That reminds me of something I've been meaning to ask you:
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 10:18 PM
Mar 2016

I've heard that McDonald's has franchises in India. Do they make the burgers from lamb?

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
15. No, though Burger King has a mutton whopper
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 10:20 PM
Mar 2016

McDonalds here has the Chicken Maharaja Mac (it's surprisingly good), the standard McChicken, and a McMasala Chicken which is spicy as hell. Plus the McAloo Tikka (a fried mashed potato patty, basically a vada pav) and some kind of veg patty burger I've never bothered to try.

Mutton isn't in their supply chain and McDonalds is crazy particular about it's supply chain (as a guy from corporate once said, "none of our recipes can use celery, because there isn't enough celery grown in the world&quot so they'll only use chicken here.

(Which reminds me: lamb per se is pretty rare here, "mutton" usually means goat. But what Americans call "lamb" would be called "mutton" in most of the English speaking world because we call it lamb up until 2 years whereas in most countries it's "mutton" after 6 months. So the Mutton Whopper here is goat, and a "lamb roast" in the US is a "mutton roast" in England.)

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
19. Sounds like stuff I've got to try if I ever get there.
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 10:26 PM
Mar 2016

Maybe they'll work some of those in in the states in franchises near large South Asian communities.

For a moment there, I was wondering if they'd follow the French example of calling the Quarter-Pounder with Cheese the "Royale with Cheese by calling the Indian version the "Raj with Paneer".

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
21. Matt Yglesias had a great idea for McDonalds. They should open a flagship branch in NYC somewhere
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 10:31 PM
Mar 2016

that serves all of the various items from their locations throughout the world: the Chicken Maharaja Mac from India, the McPoutine from Canada, the McMorning from Austria (sausage patty + egg + hash brown all on a kaiser roll), etc. I think that would be packed day and night.

calling the Indian version the "Raj with Paneer"

Paneer, oddly enough, isn't considered "cheese" here; you can get a "paneer frankie" (a frankie is basically a wrap) or a "cheese frankie" or a "paneer frankie with cheese" at the food stalls. Paneer is used as a meat substitute and not as a garnish like cheese is.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
26. I'd like to see that happen. It'd be epic.
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 10:33 PM
Mar 2016

I've heard they serve some amazing stuff at there branches in South America, too.

They could put it in at the UN Plaza.

longship

(40,416 posts)
18. Lamb would work well.
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 10:24 PM
Mar 2016

Just make sure that you add rutabaga, the one essential ingredient.

As always, my good friend.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
20. I'm more of a parsnip man
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 10:27 PM
Mar 2016

God knows where I would find either of them here. Turnips I can get down on the street, though.

No garlic, though? That surprises me. I'll add some Worcestershire at least.

longship

(40,416 posts)
27. Garlic would rock! And rutabaga IS a turnip, so you are cool there.
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 10:36 PM
Mar 2016

I see that you got it all together, my friend.

I don't know what you'll do for gravy, but even sans jus, pasties are yummy.


longship

(40,416 posts)
9. You have a good Finnish nom de plume.
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 10:17 PM
Mar 2016

Of course, the accent is always on the first syllable. KAH-lev-ah.

My best.

enlightenment

(8,830 posts)
8. Welsh?
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 10:17 PM
Mar 2016

The traditional pasty is Cornish . . . hell, they even have "traditional geographic indication" status.

Still, the Welsh make a good pasty, too and I love a good pasty - with gravy, of course (regardless of origin). I still recall getting into a heated argument with one of my former undergraduate history professors, on sliced versus cubed and rough crust versus short crust.

enlightenment

(8,830 posts)
35. I agree - cubed.
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 10:52 PM
Mar 2016

Gravy on the side - never inside . . . and having had a store-bought pastie (once!), only scratch will do.

longship

(40,416 posts)
22. There are no Cornish miners in the UP.
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 10:32 PM
Mar 2016

There's only Finlanders in those mines. And they take pasties into the mines, just like the Cornish did.

Sorry about the Welsh mistake in my OP. Pasties are Cornish, not Welsh.

In Michigan, they are Suomalainen! (Finnish)

 

AtomicKitten

(46,585 posts)
24. So, what do you have against turnips?
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 10:33 PM
Mar 2016

LOL. I made pastry once in 1973. Wild mushroon turnovers. My dog wouldn't eat them, they were that bad.

Little_Wing

(417 posts)
30. We had such a great pastie bakery in Berkley
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 10:41 PM
Mar 2016

We were soooo poor but every now and then we'd have them as a special treat. They were so good. Back in the 60s. Michigan memories! Thank you, longship!


longship

(40,416 posts)
32. When I was a kid, my father would drive down to the old Finn neighborhood for pasties.
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 10:47 PM
Mar 2016

Near the corner of Woodrow Wilson and Davison. My mother grew up there during her high school years. It was a Finnish enclave at the time. That is why Arne's Pasty Shop was there. (A good Scandinavian name there, too.) The best pasties in Detroit.

longship

(40,416 posts)
34. You are forgiven. With Finns, a sense of humor is a requirement.
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 10:50 PM
Mar 2016

It certainly is nothing to apologize for.

My best to you.

Sisu!!!

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