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Just remember friends.... (Original Post) Lorien Mar 2016 OP
Fortunately, some of us don't want to be that club. K&R Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #1
... tk2kewl Mar 2016 #6
OMG...I have never seen that top picture. SoapBox Mar 2016 #22
You know that's George Wallace with them, right? tk2kewl Mar 2016 #54
The top photo, with George Wallace, deserves wider circulation. senz Mar 2016 #59
Very, very true, as usual, Tierra, but there is another point to be made. merrily Mar 2016 #31
Yup bigwillq Mar 2016 #2
Where's Billary's "Brother From Another Mother", Georgie W? cyberpj Mar 2016 #3
LOl, I bet he is! But don't forget Papa Bush! RiverLover Mar 2016 #13
His fraternizing with Poppy and W is when he was lost forever to me. DiehardLiberal Mar 2016 #24
Excellent, thanks. nt Zorra Mar 2016 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author tk2kewl Mar 2016 #5
You should be ashamed of this post. Bleacher Creature Mar 2016 #7
I don't see anything shameful of this post... MrMickeysMom Mar 2016 #9
How about the ones of Bill at Kennebunkport with Bush and Wallace? tk2kewl Mar 2016 #10
Was George Carlin's statement wrong? merrily Mar 2016 #26
Don't be disingenuous and post the rest of the photo. Beacool Mar 2016 #8
Can you offer an explanation for these? tk2kewl Mar 2016 #11
crumbs for good causes. PowerToThePeople Mar 2016 #12
i am not sure that including the whole photo helps anything restorefreedom Mar 2016 #14
It was for charity, for goodness sake!!! Beacool Mar 2016 #15
i actually didn't see it as an attack on bc, if you think its suggesting bill is friends with trump restorefreedom Mar 2016 #30
Are you deliberating missing the point of Carlin's comment? merrily Mar 2016 #33
I like Carlin, but the photo was cropped and the intention was dishonest. Beacool Mar 2016 #56
You don't know what the intention was and the quote has nothing to do with photos. merrily Mar 2016 #57
Surely people with our background senz Mar 2016 #58
Instead of golfing for charity ibegurpard Mar 2016 #16
EXACTLY! But it's so much more fun to clutch one's pearls instead Lorien Mar 2016 #17
Presidents know a lot of people, so what? Beacool Mar 2016 #18
"$225,000 for the speech? Sure, if that's what you're offering". jalan48 Mar 2016 #19
^^^ This! ^^^ SoapBox Mar 2016 #23
Trump's club is shorter than Giuliani's and Bloomberg's. tomm2thumbs Mar 2016 #28
Your version proves Carlin's point even more strong: it's a big club and most Americans ain't in it. merrily Mar 2016 #29
Don't you be disingenuous and pretend Carlin's statement is about one photo. merrily Mar 2016 #32
Wow. zentrum Mar 2016 #20
no thanks!! dana_b Mar 2016 #21
We won't see any pictures like this with Bernie included. Cassiopeia Mar 2016 #25
We might see pics, who knows? Carlin's comment is the point, not pics. merrily Mar 2016 #35
Bernie is not part of the elite 1% club. Cassiopeia Mar 2016 #37
What pics we may see is not the point. The point is, Bernie will work to get all of us more merrily Mar 2016 #46
I disagree Cassiopeia Mar 2016 #47
My post was not about any pics that have already been taken, but those that MAY be taken of merrily Mar 2016 #48
We're on the same team Cassiopeia Mar 2016 #49
Yes. merrily Mar 2016 #50
Yes, Cassiopeia Mar 2016 #51
Who did the deliberate editing to crop and decontextualize the pic ? You or pkdu Mar 2016 #27
Please see Reply 32 and the many other photos on and off this thread that illustrate Carlin's point. merrily Mar 2016 #34
Carlin would puke on your deflection , he owned what he said. Now you , who pkdu Mar 2016 #36
Carlin would lump the Clinton's, especially Hillary, with that club Cassiopeia Mar 2016 #38
Another deflection ...let the OP answer the question , is that too uncomfortable pkdu Mar 2016 #40
How important is that question? Cassiopeia Mar 2016 #41
Because Joe Torre is a saint and the reptiles were helping him raise money JackRiddler Mar 2016 #42
Really? pkdu Mar 2016 #43
Please explain it to me, seriously. Cassiopeia Mar 2016 #44
No, deflection is attempting to make the thread about a particular photo, rather than merrily Mar 2016 #45
How Many Times Do WE Have To Say This????? n/t ChiciB1 Mar 2016 #39
I need a shower after this thread. Optimism Mar 2016 #52
Great Pics, Have To Say Again... n/t ChiciB1 Mar 2016 #53
that's whiny and causes me to lose respect for George treestar Mar 2016 #55
 

tk2kewl

(18,133 posts)
54. You know that's George Wallace with them, right?
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 10:39 AM
Mar 2016

And for younger DUers who may not know who G Wallace was...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Wallace

"He is remembered for his Southern populist and segregationist attitudes during the mid-20th century period of the African-American civil rights movement"

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
59. The top photo, with George Wallace, deserves wider circulation.
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 03:21 PM
Mar 2016

It's not as damning as Bill and Hill's actual records, but sometimes one picture is worth a thousand words.

 

cyberpj

(10,794 posts)
3. Where's Billary's "Brother From Another Mother", Georgie W?
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 10:24 PM
Mar 2016

Carlin has had it right since forever.

I just told my husband he was probably sitting up there watching the circus with his popcorn and laughing his ass off.

Response to Lorien (Original post)

Bleacher Creature

(11,257 posts)
7. You should be ashamed of this post.
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 10:39 PM
Mar 2016

This picture was taken at a fundraiser for Joe Torre's Safe at Home Foundation, which supports victims of domestic violence.

And it is not a photo of just the four of them. What you posted is a distortion that crops out other attendees at the fundraiser, including Billy Crystal.

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
9. I don't see anything shameful of this post...
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 10:42 PM
Mar 2016

It doesn't show anyone sitting around a fundraising table that includes Billy Crystal or any victim of domestic violence. It shows an inner group who during this event "got together". You can't deny what it shows, and inject shame for WHERE they were, or WHAT the event was supposed to have been.

It's their little club... And I didn't see any of those others in it, EITHER!.

Beacool

(30,250 posts)
8. Don't be disingenuous and post the rest of the photo.
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 10:42 PM
Mar 2016


Rudolph W. Giuliani, Donald Trump, New York City Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg, Bill Clinton, Joe Torre, and Billy Crystal attend the 2008 Joe Torre Safe at Home Foundation Golf Classic at Trump National Golf Club on July 14, 2008 in Briarcliff Manor, New York.



restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
14. i am not sure that including the whole photo helps anything
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 11:11 PM
Mar 2016

its the ultrarich and powerful hobnobbing together, showing that in one percent world, party affiliation is irrelevant. meanwhile, they leave us peons to try and draw r vs d lines while they revel in wealth.

at least that is how i see the photo.

Beacool

(30,250 posts)
15. It was for charity, for goodness sake!!!
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 11:30 PM
Mar 2016

And to post only half of the photo to attack Bill is definitely disingenuous.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
30. i actually didn't see it as an attack on bc, if you think its suggesting bill is friends with trump
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 01:22 AM
Mar 2016

i just assume trump schmooozes with everyone anyway, if that helps.

i do think that at that level, they don't really care much about each others politics

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
58. Surely people with our background
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 03:11 PM
Mar 2016

know that "charity," for the upper middle and upper class, is a self-serving, self-promotional, social activity where preening, seeing and being seen, networking, and posing for photographs is the entire point.

Surely you know that.

Hint: how many of the lower classes were invited to the dinner? I mean, besides those who cooked, served, and cleaned up?

Lose the whitewashing. It's better to be real.

ibegurpard

(16,685 posts)
16. Instead of golfing for charity
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 11:41 PM
Mar 2016

Why not stand up against policy that puts people in the position of needing it???

Lorien

(31,935 posts)
17. EXACTLY! But it's so much more fun to clutch one's pearls instead
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 11:49 PM
Mar 2016

there are plenty of photos out there of these friends together at other events, and everyone knows it.





http://linkis.com/url-image/?resize=970%2C708

Birds of a feather...

Beacool

(30,250 posts)
18. Presidents know a lot of people, so what?
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 12:14 AM
Mar 2016

By the way, the last pic was an official event. Was she supposed to kicking the mayor in the shins? You know perfectly well that you posted a cropped pic to attack Bill. If you had been honest, you would have posted the full photo.

tomm2thumbs

(13,297 posts)
28. Trump's club is shorter than Giuliani's and Bloomberg's.
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 01:20 AM
Mar 2016

If only his IQ were as close as his club-size

merrily

(45,251 posts)
29. Your version proves Carlin's point even more strong: it's a big club and most Americans ain't in it.
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 01:21 AM
Mar 2016

merrily

(45,251 posts)
32. Don't you be disingenuous and pretend Carlin's statement is about one photo.
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 01:28 AM
Mar 2016

Even if the photo is nitpicked to death, there are thousands of other photos, as you well know. And Carlin's comment was about America society, not photos.

Cassiopeia

(2,603 posts)
25. We won't see any pictures like this with Bernie included.
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 01:10 AM
Mar 2016

He doesn't belong to that club. He only wears comfortable shoes and he puts them to work.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
35. We might see pics, who knows? Carlin's comment is the point, not pics.
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 01:34 AM
Mar 2016

Carlin was not talking about photographs.

Cassiopeia

(2,603 posts)
37. Bernie is not part of the elite 1% club.
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 01:51 AM
Mar 2016

We'll never see pics of him on some outing laughing about the way they have reigned supreme over the little people.

I'm sure there are some black tie POTUS events of meet and greets with Sanders, but nothing like this outing in the OP.

Bernie is more likely to be found walking the picket line or standing for hours in the House fighting for us. There are lots of those pictures.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
46. What pics we may see is not the point. The point is, Bernie will work to get all of us more
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 03:20 AM
Mar 2016

say in the club.

Cassiopeia

(2,603 posts)
47. I disagree
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 03:30 AM
Mar 2016

What we see in the pics is important. It goes towards character. Bernie stands with us, Hillary stands with the 1% in an effort to increase her personal wealth.







merrily

(45,251 posts)
48. My post was not about any pics that have already been taken, but those that MAY be taken of
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 03:34 AM
Mar 2016

Bernie in the future.

If he is President, he will definitely be in pics smiling with all kinds of people. What pics Bernie may be in if he is President has nothing to do with why I am voting for him or with Carlin's comment.

Cassiopeia

(2,603 posts)
49. We're on the same team
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 03:37 AM
Mar 2016

fighting the same message.

The OP was it's a big club and you aren't in it. Bernie has never been a part of the club because he's always fought against it. I don't expect that to change when he get elected as our next POTUS.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
50. Yes.
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 03:47 AM
Mar 2016

I just don't want people to assume they will not see a President is in pics with all kinds of people.

Carlin's comment was not about pics, after all. It was about a "club" of rich and powerful people excluding everyone else in which most Americans do not participate.

Cassiopeia

(2,603 posts)
51. Yes,
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 03:49 AM
Mar 2016

The OP had a pic to illustrate the comment Carlin made.

Just pointing out that media today can point out exactly what Carlin was talking about.

pkdu

(3,977 posts)
27. Who did the deliberate editing to crop and decontextualize the pic ? You or
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 01:20 AM
Mar 2016

Your source? It's an important question.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
34. Please see Reply 32 and the many other photos on and off this thread that illustrate Carlin's point.
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 01:33 AM
Mar 2016

This is not a photography club thread.

pkdu

(3,977 posts)
36. Carlin would puke on your deflection , he owned what he said. Now you , who
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 01:38 AM
Mar 2016

weren't asked BTW , should let the OP answer!

Cassiopeia

(2,603 posts)
41. How important is that question?
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 02:14 AM
Mar 2016

apparently this is the original image:





Now, how does the difference in images change the validity of the OP?

 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
42. Because Joe Torre is a saint and the reptiles were helping him raise money
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 02:20 AM
Mar 2016

for children or something.

Therefore it's just not cricket to show them being chummy with each other in that particular context, etc. etc.

Cassiopeia

(2,603 posts)
44. Please explain it to me, seriously.
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 02:49 AM
Mar 2016

The best I've got is showing the original image posted up thread, but it doesn't change the setting. This is an elite group that has worked their asses off.....

Ok, they've never WORKED. They've done a lot of back room deals, smoked cigars, had drinks, hell, I've never been privy to all the ins and outs of the parties the 1% have, but I know they've never laid 3 flatbed trucks of sod on the ground, I know they've never cleaned the bedpans of countless patients, and they've never had to clean toilets to find their next meal.

So, you posted a bunch of emoticons like an argument, please explain how the OP pic or the original pic makes any difference. Please explain it all.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
45. No, deflection is attempting to make the thread about a particular photo, rather than
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 03:18 AM
Mar 2016

Calrin's statement. But, good to know you imagine you can read the minds (and intestines) of dead men.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
55. that's whiny and causes me to lose respect for George
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 10:41 AM
Mar 2016

it's not funny its just whiny. Get out. Canvass. Campaign. Vote. Don't whine like a victim in a free country where you can say whatever you want and campaign for whoever you want.

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