this might of been a big hit to Sanders, except Hillary had a melt down at some point and thought it would work to use Koch brothers, and lie about him being a member of minutemen vigilante groups? Please does she think Hispanics are fucking stupid? Such a obvious bold face lie at a debate focused on Latinos.

Bernie answered the questions well. Hillary doesn't get that that shit will only hurt her. Same thing happened in 08.

But after her racist 2008 campaign hardly surprising.

Thanks for setting the record break.

and less on doctors and stuff. I don't disagree with what he said but I wish he'd put the emphasis on no regime change rather than on praising the good aspects of those regimes.

Oh well. If it's a big thing he'll presumably get a chance to clarify and expand on this.

crafting every word they say as Hillary, Cruz, or Rubio are doing. Sometimes when people are fed up with the lies their government tells they just want to hear a politician say what they truly think and believe.

especially their work with Ebola in Africa.

El Salvador and Guatamala were doing in the 1980s-- governments that Reagan was supporting (along with too goddamned many Democrats).

Thousands were murdered in Guatamala, while Reagan denied it was happening.

And now these things are happening in Honduras-- thanks in part to Hillary's actions as Secretary of State, refusing any diplomatic intervention against the right-wing coup there.


She has unmitigated gall to even have spoken those words.

really, really weak. I expect that she'll lose the educated Latinos on this one but there are plenty of right wingers who'll like what she said.

You have to give Bernie credit for not backing down and standing up for his remarks about his visits in 1985, but it will not make him popular in Florida or in the general election if he gets that far. I can hear Trump now......

The reality is that it's every US citizens responsibility to find out for themselves what the US is up to and Bernie was doing his job. This doesn't mean he supported them and I think he mad it clear he thinks Cuba is an authoritarian government.

Go back to the text of that segment of the debate (above) and read it.

What are you referring to here?

...about his visits.

And it was another era.

Of course I was a part of all of that so I understand it very well.

He did say the Cuban government wasn't perfect, an understatement, but what the US did to Cuba and was doing in Central America at the time was about 200000 worse.

Those numbers being fairly accurate since a couple of hundred thousand died in Ronnie Reagan's wars. Where was the outrage over that?

A bit of a "he made the trains rub on time" kind of thing. IMO, he needs to avoid looking like he's being an apologist for Castro or Ortega. Unfortunately, he WAS a but of an apologist, so he'll have to deal with that.

I mean really?

Anybody who lives in South Florida knows better. I admire Bernie for speaking the truth but he may have committed political suicide.

They are Puerto Rican, Nicaraguan, etc. and they are much more liberal than the Cubans. Plus, the Cuban Americans, first and second generation, don't want to continue to cold war.

Those people were never interested in Bernie anyway.

The older generation Cubans who take issue with Bernie's positions are going to vote Republican. Period. The younger generations who are likely Democratic voters could care less. He may lose some votes here and there, but he'll win some back with his stances on economic and social issues. At the end of the day, he probably won't win Florida anyway, but it's not going to have much of an effect on his overall vote totals in the state.

at least 20 DU posters claimed to hear that Clinton called Bernie a Communist. BTW I agree with what Clinton said. You can't ignore that Castro's revolution resulted in an authoritarian dictatorship with violent repression, murder and purge of democratic voices and free speech

Not such a great history of human rights there.

If we didn't have free trade with China we would not be able to afford anything, sadly.

If all that stuff was made here, people would have good paying jobs to buy them. The only ones who benefit are the Wall St. parasites. The free traders will never admit this. They will also not admit that when these jobs move overseas, we also lose tax income from the companies and the prosperity created by worker spending. Instead we prop up China and have to spend more to keep their military ambitions in check.

that is the conclusion that too many Americans will reach if they see that clip. It's not really fair, but life isn't fair.

Someone needs to be concerned, don't you think?

aren't voting for him anyway. But thanks for playing.

All campaigns do research to dig up dirt on their opponents, but they normally don't publicize that information immediately. They wait until the optimum opportunity to blind side their opponents. Sometimes they never use it at all for whatever reason. While I am sure that the Clinton organization was well aware of Bernie's visits to Nicaragua and Cuba and the interviews he gave later on the subject, I don't think they would have used the material for fear of alienating Bernie's supporters. You can bet, however that the Republicans would use it to try to destroy Bernie if he were to win the nomination.

However, the cat is now out of the bag now and you can bet that the Spanish language media is going to publicize this far and wide It makes a difference because it is not only Cubans who hate the communist and socialist governments, past and present, in their home countries. Bernie's original remarks and his refusal to repudiate them now is going to hurt him with Hispanics both now and in the GE if he gets that far. As you know the Hispanic vote is going to be crucial to electing a Democratic President.

That's fine if you want to brush this off, that's your opinion and you are entitled to it. However, the only reason that it has been a big deal until now is that the vast majority of the electorate that doesn't pay a lot of attention to politics had no knowledge of the incidents. Now that they will be aware,... well it is will be a big deal for many Hispanics and many Americans who hate the way the Cuban government treats its people, and that includes a lot of liberals who are all about human rights.

for the reasons I mentioned. The ones who would care, aren't voting for him anyway. Younger voters have a different view. It's just the way it is.