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Onlooker

(5,636 posts)
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 09:28 AM Mar 2016

So Bernie supports the Stealth bomber, is an admirer of Fidel Castro, and protected the Minutemen?

Can you imagine if Hillary had these kinds of stands, how the white "left" would rip her apart. Not saying that Bernie is bad, just let's put things in perspective -- he's more progressive than Hillary but he's a career politician who, like Hillary, has made some poor choices in his career.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/02/09/bernie-sanders-loves-this-1-trillion-war-machine.html

MANCHESTER, New Hampshire — Sen. Bernie Sanders has railed against big defense corporations at rallies, but he has a more complex history with the military-industrial complex. Most notably, he’s supported a $1.2 trillion stealth fighter that’s considered by many to be one of the bigger boondoggles in Pentagon history.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3281335/Bernie-Sanders-praised-Fidel-Castro-1985-interview-educated-kids-gave-kids-health-care-totally-transformed-society.html

A 31-year-old videotaped interview has been drudged up in which a young Bernie Sanders heaps praise on Cuba's communist dictator Fidel Castro.

Sanders, mayor of Burlington, Vermont at the time and now the state's independent senator seeking the 2016 Democratic presidential nomination, made the remarks in an interview on a local public access channel, the CCTV Center for Media & Democracy in Burlington.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/evanmcsan/in-2006-bernie-sanders-voted-in-support-of-an-immigration-co#.ucZBEB47W

A few months before Democrats swept the 2006 elections, an outcry raged in the fringier corners of the immigration debate. Treasonous American officials were tipping off the Mexican government about the whereabouts of Minutemen patrols, the argument went, making it impossible for the private army bent on preventing undocumented immigrants from crossing the border to do their jobs.

The outcry made it to Congress, where Georgia Rep. Jack Kingston, a Republican, introduced an amendment clearly directed at the Minutemen story. The amendment barred the Department of Homeland Security from providing “a foreign government information relating to the activities of an organized volunteer civilian action group, operating in the State of California, Texas, New Mexico, or Arizona.”

Kingston’s amendment overwhelmingly passed the Republican-controlled Congress, including the votes of 76 Democrats, most of them from the party’s then-strong Blue Dog conservative wing. Another person voted for the measure, too: Rep. Bernie Sanders, an independent in the midst of the campaign that would send him the U.S. Senate.

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So Bernie supports the Stealth bomber, is an admirer of Fidel Castro, and protected the Minutemen? (Original Post) Onlooker Mar 2016 OP
You forgot his Commie Honeymoon! tazkcmo Mar 2016 #1
So tired of the red scare crap, will people ever realize that it isn't a thing anymore? Coincidence Mar 2016 #18
wow I had no idea he so very ah versatile , the Minutemen and Fidel all in one package azurnoir Mar 2016 #2
the white "left" ??? left-of-center2012 Mar 2016 #3
No, I don't want to include the minority left, since they are split on who to back n/t Onlooker Mar 2016 #4
Oh, don't forget he's pals with the Koch brothers casperthegm Mar 2016 #5
Lies by Hillary ....... left-of-center2012 Mar 2016 #7
I am sick of liars and manipulators Generic Other Mar 2016 #10
Yeah, and she has no idea why people don't trust her... nt casperthegm Mar 2016 #11
Down with the Bourgeoisie! Unite proletariat! Cast down the capitalist infidels! Katashi_itto Mar 2016 #6
Yawn... cherokeeprogressive Mar 2016 #8
I LOVE the smell of Hillarian desperation in the morning. 99Forever Mar 2016 #9
The minunite men ammendant ment was a fluff thing Gwhittey Mar 2016 #12
She spews this crap & wonders why her likability jillan Mar 2016 #13
Right. Bernie was protecting the Minutemen while Hillary was murdering Vince Foster. beerandjesus Mar 2016 #14
Power to the proletariat!!! Die Filthy Capitalist Dogs!!!! Katashi_itto Mar 2016 #15
And just a few months ago he was a "Pacifist". Motown_Johnny Mar 2016 #16
Surely he has a way to rationalize those positions and votes? Oh, never mind. Jitter65 Mar 2016 #17
Let's take a look at this shall we? pinebox Mar 2016 #19
The Bernistas are EVERYWHERE! Could be family, friends neighbors. Report them Immediately to the Katashi_itto Mar 2016 #20
K & R so everyone can see the silliness xynthee Mar 2016 #21
 

Coincidence

(98 posts)
18. So tired of the red scare crap, will people ever realize that it isn't a thing anymore?
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 10:34 AM
Mar 2016

Boomers have been trying to pass the red scare down to new generations my entire life, and they assume that everyone is on the same page as them, but young people don't understand and don't care about the irrational fears of old people because they didn't have red panic burned into their brain daily throughout their childhood.

Millennials have made it clear that they're not terrified in the least by the word "socialism", and that extends to gen-x as well. The cold war ended ~25 years ago, you'd have to be at least 35-40 years old to remember anything significant about it at all. Hell, I'm 40 and all I remember of the time was that Yakov Smirnoff was funny and Chernobyl was bad, nobody talked to kids about foreign policy in the 80's!

Yet I see it regularly, there is still this presumption that everyone still shares a fear that the commies are coming for our freedom. It's way past time to retire the Red Guard.

casperthegm

(643 posts)
5. Oh, don't forget he's pals with the Koch brothers
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 09:57 AM
Mar 2016

According to Hillary in the debate last night, the Koch brothers and Bernie are fast friends. That's right, Hillary, friend of the frackers, had the audacity to try to tie Sanders to the Koch brothers. It's a flat out lie, she knows it, yet she still said it, assuming that voters would be too stupid to realize it. That's the kind of respect she has for Sanders and for democratic voters. And I'm supposed to supporter her if she wins the nomination?

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
7. Lies by Hillary .......
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 09:59 AM
Mar 2016

Bill Press (progressive radio host) said this morning that lies like that are why Hillary isn't trusted.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
9. I LOVE the smell of Hillarian desperation in the morning.
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 10:03 AM
Mar 2016

Smells like the wheels coming off a bus going over a cliff.

Yummy.

 

Gwhittey

(1,377 posts)
12. The minunite men ammendant ment was a fluff thing
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 10:10 AM
Mar 2016

It meant nothing and did nothing. It was a amendment on a bill, do you not understand what that is? Basically let's say we have a bill that give VA money to increase the PTSD programs. So some Republican comes up and adds a amendment onto that bill that said "Post office is not allowed to sell Alcohol " would you now vote no on that bill? This is same thing that amendment did.
For Christ sake it is even in hit job you posted.




“I claim the time in opposition; but, Mr. Chairman, I don’t rise in opposition,” he said. He said Customs officials had told him they already didn’t share information with the Mexican government except for where required by treaty.
“If people want to put it in the bill, I guess that is okay because it apparently does nothing,” he quipped.

beerandjesus

(1,301 posts)
14. Right. Bernie was protecting the Minutemen while Hillary was murdering Vince Foster.
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 10:18 AM
Mar 2016

Both statements are equally credible (i.e. equally false). The difference is, only ONE of the candidates is willing to bring up obvious bullshit of such a low caliber in front of an audience.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
16. And just a few months ago he was a "Pacifist".
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 10:31 AM
Mar 2016

It is clear Clinton supporters will say anything to try and get her elected.

Protected by Minutemen? Where the hell did you come up with that one? Even Hillary didn't say that and she was lying her ass off last night.




 

pinebox

(5,761 posts)
19. Let's take a look at this shall we?
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 10:39 AM
Mar 2016

So that's what you got?

Hillary went ahead and did weapons deals with Saudi Arabia who flowed cash to the Clinton Foundation



Next up, why was Hillary pandering to the NRA and its members when she ran against Obama in 2008?



Next up, you bring up Castro. I'll bring up Hugo Chavez.







What else ya got?
 

Katashi_itto

(10,175 posts)
20. The Bernistas are EVERYWHERE! Could be family, friends neighbors. Report them Immediately to the
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 10:45 AM
Mar 2016

Local Clinton Safety Committee!


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