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Little Star

(17,055 posts)
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 09:47 AM Mar 2016

Bernie Sanders ‘Too Tired’ for This Syrian Refugee

The questioner, Ismael Basha, attended the debate as a guest of CNN, the sponsor of the event. After the on-air questioning was completed, he approached the senator from the left side of the stage and greeted him, asking if he could pose a question.


Sanders was happy to take a question, Basha said—until the refugee mentioned that the question would be about Syria, causing Sanders to grimace and raise his eyebrows.


“He had this look—he reacted like it was an unpleasant surprise,” Basha told The Daily Beast. “[Sanders] said, ‘look, this is not the time, and I am very tired.’”

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/03/10/bernie-sanders-too-tired-for-this-syrian-refugee.html

Incredible.
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Bernie Sanders ‘Too Tired’ for This Syrian Refugee (Original Post) Little Star Mar 2016 OP
LOL, the Daily Beast tularetom Mar 2016 #1
Amazing ain't it? madokie Mar 2016 #2
This guy was a plant? Buzz Clik Mar 2016 #8
You are the only person saying that Matariki Mar 2016 #29
Daily Beast Owner calls Progressives "Wingnuts" and "Lunatic Fringe" in his book CoffeeCat Mar 2016 #32
every Hillary supporter thread I go on this AM m-lekktor Mar 2016 #4
POS when it casts a bad light on Sanders. Buzz Clik Mar 2016 #10
How very selective of you. Buzz Clik Mar 2016 #5
You lack citation so I DU searched the term 'Daily Beast' and here are the top 5 results: Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #19
And two seconds later.... Buzz Clik Mar 2016 #22
I certainly have never quoted this publication. JackRiddler Mar 2016 #33
Wonder if he'd have gotten close enough to HRC ask this and what her reaction nc4bo Mar 2016 #3
Friggin' refuge. Who the hell does he think he is? A "human being"? Buzz Clik Mar 2016 #7
No one said that but YOU and probably HRCs meme generating machine. nt nc4bo Mar 2016 #9
Intervening on the side of Isis will not solve the problem of Syrian refugees. virtualobserver Mar 2016 #14
"Wonder if he'd have gotten close enough to HRC ask this" Nitram Mar 2016 #25
I'm thinking it would have been something like this... cherokeeprogressive Mar 2016 #27
A laugh? JackRiddler Mar 2016 #34
And his breathing..... daleanime Mar 2016 #6
That's because he had to rest up to be the commie minuteman myrna minx Mar 2016 #11
Bad Myrna minx! angrychair Mar 2016 #16
Sanders avoids responding to a complex issue while greeting audience members after a long debate Kip Humphrey Mar 2016 #12
How about this quote from the article; casperthegm Mar 2016 #13
A poor willingness to cooperate with hawks and weapons contractors, like Hillary does. vintx Mar 2016 #15
Ismael Basha has said that the refugees are victims of Isis virtualobserver Mar 2016 #17
How about assisting a military coup against a democratically elected government, Beowulf Mar 2016 #18
Trouble is, when Hillary is "sleep-deprived" it increases... Herman4747 Mar 2016 #20
Ain't nobody got a Syria answer except O'Malley, and he dropped out Recursion Mar 2016 #21
You think he is tired now. Wait until the GOP begins on him with just half the stuff they throw at Jitter65 Mar 2016 #23
I didn't realize Sanders was one of the few asking the Saudis to step-up and help Sunlei Mar 2016 #24
Hillary harmed Syrian refugees by obstructing the 2012 accord; read Col U. Earth Ins on this amborin Mar 2016 #26
I bet this is a lied made up out of whole cloth CoffeeCat Mar 2016 #28
That reads as someone being asked a very complex question Matariki Mar 2016 #30
Hillary's responsible for the carnage in Syria according to a top UN official peacebird Mar 2016 #31
Hillary is the one to ask about Syria. Octafish Mar 2016 #35
Interesting (shall we say...) interpretation of Sanders' reaction. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #36
I don't blame him. Any discussion @ Syria is not going to be simple Arazi Mar 2016 #37

madokie

(51,076 posts)
2. Amazing ain't it?
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 09:56 AM
Mar 2016

Why can't Hillary just win on all that knowledge and experience of hers without having to have people resort to the likes of this shit?

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
8. This guy was a plant?
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 09:59 AM
Mar 2016

You can prove that, right? (rhetorical question -- don't bother answering)

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
32. Daily Beast Owner calls Progressives "Wingnuts" and "Lunatic Fringe" in his book
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 11:49 AM
Mar 2016

The Daily Beast's editor in chief, John Avalon, authored, "Wingnuts: How the Lunatic Fringe is Hijacking America." A lovely bashing of Progressives that equates the left wing of the Democratic party (the base/Sanders supporters) as a "radical" bookend to the "wingnuts" in the Republican party.

What a joke!!!

As if that's not bad enough, Bill Clinton praised Avalon's book, saying that it, "offers a clear and comprehensive review of the forces on the outer edges of the political spectrum that shape and distort our political debate. Shedding more heat than light they drive frustrated alienated citizens away from the reasoned discourse that can produce real solutions to our problems."

Avalon is a self professed "radical centrist." (Code word for sell-out DLC corporatist war cheerleader).

Bill Clinton praises his "radical centrism" and Chelsea Clinton sits on the board.

In other words, the Daily Beast exists to spin the DLC agenda. The Bernie-Bashing Brigade!

Tina Brown used to run The Daily Beast. It was a decent source of news and information. She broke away in late 2014. Now, it's a joke.
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John Phillips Avlon is an American journalist and political commentator who is the editor in chief of The Daily Beast[1] and a CNN political analyst.[2] He is the author of Independent Nation: How Centrists Can Change American Politics,[3] which critically appraises both traditional American centrism and the more recent radical centrism. He is also the author of Wingnuts: How the Lunatic Fringe is Hijacking America.[4] Former President Bill Clinton said that the book Wingnuts "offers a clear and comprehensive review of the forces on the outer edges of the political spectrum that shape and distort our political debate. Shedding more heat than light they drive frustrated alienated citizens away from the reasoned discourse that can produce real solutions to our problems."[5] Avlon has also been a columnist and associate editor for The New York Sun and worked as chief speechwriter for former New York mayor Rudolph Giuliani.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Avlon

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
5. How very selective of you.
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 09:57 AM
Mar 2016

The Daily Beast is quoted all the time by the Sanders crew when it slams Hillary. Now, it's trash.

Of course.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
19. You lack citation so I DU searched the term 'Daily Beast' and here are the top 5 results:
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 10:28 AM
Mar 2016

Reminder: THE DAILY BEAST's Parent Company has CHELSEA CLINTON on it's Board of Directors.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511420593

The Daily Beast's Bernie Bashing
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017335788

So Why Is the Daily Beast Pushing a False Narrative Regarding Bernie's Electability?http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511306905

Daily Beast: Don’t Be Fooled By The Claims of ‘Cleanse’ Diets
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1018725441

The Daily Beast's Anti-Bernie Sanders Slant Due to Conflict of Interest with Clintons
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017332062


I still have not found these Bernie supporters constantly citing Daily Beast unless it is to criticize their bias......

 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
33. I certainly have never quoted this publication.
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 12:12 PM
Mar 2016

There is no "Sanders crew."

Coordinated repetition of the same talking points on a timed basis is the M.O. of a rather different, top-down operation.

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
3. Wonder if he'd have gotten close enough to HRC ask this and what her reaction
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 09:57 AM
Mar 2016

Would have been?

This man had all this on his mind and expected someone to give a full answer to such a serious question in a matter of seconds?

But, whatevs.



 

virtualobserver

(8,760 posts)
14. Intervening on the side of Isis will not solve the problem of Syrian refugees.
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 10:08 AM
Mar 2016

A third failed state in the Middle East will not stop the death and violence.

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
27. I'm thinking it would have been something like this...
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 11:27 AM
Mar 2016

With maybe a "Why don't YOU run for office..." thrown in.

myrna minx

(22,772 posts)
11. That's because he had to rest up to be the commie minuteman
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 10:00 AM
Mar 2016

Galloping along the Arizona boarder, praising Castro, while sending Latinos back to Mexico.

angrychair

(8,702 posts)
16. Bad Myrna minx!
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 10:18 AM
Mar 2016

I was trying to trying to drink coffee when I saw that and almost made a mess.
Yippie-ki-yay mothertruckers!



🏇🏇🏇🏇🏾🏇🏽

Kip Humphrey

(4,753 posts)
12. Sanders avoids responding to a complex issue while greeting audience members after a long debate
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 10:04 AM
Mar 2016

I'll just leave this here to help people make judgment:


casperthegm

(643 posts)
13. How about this quote from the article;
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 10:05 AM
Mar 2016

"Sanders has demonstrated a relatively poor understanding on foreign policy, especially when compared side-by-side with former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton."

Really? Remind me again who voted for going to war in Iraq? And who had the foresight to see that it would destabilize the region and create a power vacuum. Which it did.

Oh, and who is it that thinks it's a good idea to institute a no-fly zone in Syria, daring Russian jets to cross it? I mean, what could possibly go wrong there?

But yeah, that "understanding" and experience has worked wonders for Clinton.

 

vintx

(1,748 posts)
15. A poor willingness to cooperate with hawks and weapons contractors, like Hillary does.
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 10:10 AM
Mar 2016

that's what they meant to say.

 

virtualobserver

(8,760 posts)
17. Ismael Basha has said that the refugees are victims of Isis
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 10:20 AM
Mar 2016

Hillary has advocated regime change in Syria which would empower Isis and a no-fly zone which would benefit Isis.

this guy voted for Hillary?

Beowulf

(761 posts)
18. How about assisting a military coup against a democratically elected government,
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 10:25 AM
Mar 2016

creating many refugees, including children. Then deporting those children back to the country from which they fled, with many of those children murdered upon their return. Yeah, that's just the understanding of foreign policy I want in a president.

 

Herman4747

(1,825 posts)
20. Trouble is, when Hillary is "sleep-deprived" it increases...
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 10:33 AM
Mar 2016
HER CAPACITY TO LIE!!

Hillary’s Excuse: “I Was Sleep-Deprived”


Retracting her bogus claims of experiencing a harrowing scene on arrival in Bosnia, Hillary dithered, “I was sleep-deprived, and I misspoke.” So each of the countless times she recited the debunked drama, stamped a “real whopper” by the Washington Post, drowsiness prompted the concocted embellishments?

What’s worse is that Hillary’s account was challenged a week ago by the comedian Sinbad, who accompanied her on the trip. He listed the scariest moment as deciding where to eat, in a region described as “one of the safest places in Bosnia.” Yet she dismissed him as a comedian and proceeded to elevate the story’s drama, citing “landing under sniper fire” and running for safety “with our heads down.”
(-- from https://stateoftheunion.wordpress.com/2008/03/25/hillarys-excuse-i-was-sleep-deprived/ )

So we have a choice:

Bernie, when he is feeling too tired at the moment to deal with a question, simply says so

or

Hillary, who when feeling tired, makes up a lie!

But even the notion that she was indeed "sleep-deprived" is almost assuredly itself a another lie, as she stated her Bosnia crap on more than one occasion.

I swear, Hillary is right up there with Bush II and Mitt Romney in terms of dishonesty and insincerity!

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
21. Ain't nobody got a Syria answer except O'Malley, and he dropped out
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 10:44 AM
Mar 2016

And that answer would fail harder than Single Payer in Congress.

What do you want the man to do? Lie to the girl?

 

Jitter65

(3,089 posts)
23. You think he is tired now. Wait until the GOP begins on him with just half the stuff they throw at
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 10:47 AM
Mar 2016

Hillary.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
24. I didn't realize Sanders was one of the few asking the Saudis to step-up and help
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 10:48 AM
Mar 2016

And so it happened.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
28. I bet this is a lied made up out of whole cloth
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 11:31 AM
Mar 2016

It probably didn't even happen.

Chelsea Clinton sits on the board of The Daily Beast--which has morphed into Bernie bashing central.

I don't believe one word of this article.

What a joke. The Clintons never stop spinning bullshit, do they?

Matariki

(18,775 posts)
30. That reads as someone being asked a very complex question
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 11:40 AM
Mar 2016

when they have neither the time or energy to do it justice. Campaigning for days on end, preparing for debates, intense debating, would do that to anyone. Sanders is honest, not glib.

Mountain. Molehill.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
35. Hillary is the one to ask about Syria.
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 12:16 PM
Mar 2016


Words of wisdom:



Hillary Is the Candidate of the War Machine

by Jeffrey D. Sachs
Common Dreams, Feb. 5, 2016

There's no doubt that Hillary is the candidate of Wall Street. Even more dangerous, though, is that she is the candidate of the military-industrial complex. The idea that she is bad on the corporate issues but good on national security has it wrong. Her so-called foreign policy "experience" has been to support every war demanded by the US deep security state run by the military and the CIA.

SNIP...

Hillary's record as Secretary of State is among the most militaristic, and disastrous, of modern US history. Some experience. Hilary was a staunch defender of the military-industrial-intelligence complex at every turn, helping to spread the Iraq mayhem over a swath of violence that now stretches from Mali to Afghanistan. Two disasters loom largest: Libya and Syria.

Hillary has been much attacked for the deaths of US diplomats in Benghazi, but her tireless promotion of the overthrow Muammar Qaddafi by NATO bombing is the far graver disaster. Hillary strongly promoted NATO-led regime change in Libya, not only in violation of international law but counter to the most basic good judgment. After the NATO bombing, Libya descended into civil war while the paramilitaries and unsecured arms stashes in Libya quickly spread west across the African Sahel and east to Syria. The Libyan disaster has spawned war in Mali, fed weapons to Boko Haram in Nigeria, and fueled ISIS in Syria and Iraq. In the meantime, Hillary found it hilarious to declare of Qaddafi: "We came, we saw, he died."

Perhaps the crowning disaster of this long list of disasters has been Hillary's relentless promotion of CIA-led regime change in Syria. Once again Hillary bought into the CIA propaganda that regime change to remove Bashir al-Assad would be quick, costless, and surely successful. In August 2011, Hillary led the US into disaster with her declaration Assad must "get out of the way," backed by secret CIA operations.

Five years later, no place on the planet is more ravaged by unending war, and no place poses a greater threat to US security. More than 10 million Syrians are displaced, and the refugees are drowning in the Mediterranean or undermining the political stability of Greece, Turkey, and the European Union. Into the chaos created by the secret CIA-Saudi operations to overthrow Assad, ISIS has filled the vacuum, and has used Syria as the base for worldwide terrorist attacks.

CONTINUED w/links...

http://www.commondreams.org/views/2016/02/05/hillary-candidate-war-machine



So, why didn't the well-connected refugee who got past DWS's crack Miami security team ask her about that?
 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
36. Interesting (shall we say...) interpretation of Sanders' reaction.
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 12:31 PM
Mar 2016

His grimace couldn't possibly be over the horrific human toll of that conflict or the seeming futility of trying to bring it to an end, or anything...

Arazi

(6,829 posts)
37. I don't blame him. Any discussion @ Syria is not going to be simple
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 01:01 PM
Mar 2016

or short. I don't care what the question was/is

It's really a gotcha to hit someone with a question like that after a two hour debate at 11:30 pm at night

FWIW, I'd defend HRC on this as well

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