2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWhy did Hillary vote for a border fence?
If we're going to go there ion immigration about Bernie then we need to go there about Hillary, too.
Besides calling for kids to be deported and using the term "illegals", she also in the past voted for a border fence.
known as the Secure Fence Act of 2006 and signed into law by W Bush on October 26, 2006.
According to Wiki https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Fence_Act_of_2006
The Secure Fence Act of 2006 authorizes the construction of 700 additional miles of the double chain link and barbed wire fences with light and infrared camera poles.
Here is the roll call https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/109-2006/s262
Guess who voted against it? Bernie.
So why did Hillary side with Republicans on this? Why should we trust someone who has voted for a piece of legislation like this and then has made some very disparaging remarks in the past? We'll wait for replies.
Meanwhile, a little facts tend to shed light on things....
Seriously, she is on camera bragging about get vote for the border fence? Yet she gets a pass? Give me a break people!
And then we have this little gem. This should make ANYBODY think twice about ever supporting her on immigration. This is utterly disgusting.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/2/16/1485965/-Before-the-Border-Wall-Hillary-Voted-for-a-Border-Fence
In Hillary Clintons case, the vote has a deeper significance. As the reputed frontrunner in the contest for the Democratic Partys 2008 presidential nomination, she is making a direct appeal to the same anti-immigrant sentiments that are being stoked by the right wing of the Republican Party.
Thus, in a 2003 interview with WABC radio in New York, she declared: I am, you know, adamantly against illegal immigrants.
Continuing with what amounted to a backward rant against the foreign-born, she said, People have to stop employing illegal immigrants. I mean, come up to Westchester, go to Suffolk and Nassau counties, stand on the street corners in Brooklyn or the Bronx. Youre going to see loads of people waiting to get picked up to go do yard work and construction work and domestic work.
Yet there is more! There's ALWAYS more when it comes to Hillary!
http://www.latintimes.com/hillary-clinton-bragging-about-building-border-wall-keeping-out-illegal-immigrants-352631
Senator Hillary Clinton has come out firmly against giving drivers licenses to illegal immigrants, one day before a debate against her fellow Democrats, who have put her on the defensive on the issue.
Her campaign issued a statement saying that she supported Gov. Eliot Spitzers decision today to drop his plan for such licenses.
I support Governor Spitzers decision today to withdraw his proposal, she said in the statement. As president, I will not support drivers licenses for undocumented people and will press for comprehensive immigration reform that deals with all of the issues around illegal immigration, including border security and fixing our broken system.
ibegurpard
(16,685 posts)To what she thought was the smart POLITICAL position at the time. It's how the Clintons roll.
pinebox
(5,761 posts)peacebird
(14,195 posts)Matariki
(18,775 posts)Do people criticizing her for this think we should have open borders?
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)She will say anything to anyone--depending on what she thinks they want to hear.
And she feels the sadz about not being trusted? For the love of Pete.
There's a reason that your untrustworthy numbers are at 70 percent, honey. You are a chameleon and everyone knows it.
The ultimate irony? Hillary's new marketing slogan is "breaking down barriers" while this clip shows her bragging about voting "many times to build a barrier."
#whichHillary.
amborin
(16,631 posts)listen to the way she speaks about people who are struggling to survive; she speaks about them as if they are sub-human:
Whereas Trump says he wants to build a wall, Hillary has ALREADY voted many times to actually construct one to keep out "illegal immigrants."
http://www.latintimes.com/hillary-clinton-bragging-about-building-border-wall-keeping-out-illegal-immigrants-352631
In Hillary's own words:
I voted numerous times when I was a senator to spend money to build a barrier to try to prevent illegal immigrants from coming in... .
http://www.latintimes.com/hillary-clinton-bragging-about-building-border-wall-keeping-out-illegal-immigrants-352631
stillwaiting
(3,795 posts)I guess that poll tested better than a WALL.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)When that is the pay off I call the border fence a compassionate jobs program.
People really need to look into this issue. We are not getting enough water and nourishment to the people making their way to this country. People are dying in the sand and in trucks.
Please tell me why you give a shit about a fence? Tell me why you think people dying crossing the border is so much better than a fence? Tell me why you think that fence is more important than the citizenship of fifteen million people currently living in the shadows.
This is another example of Sanders putting human rights on the back burner. It was really for the visa issue and that is well known. How did that work out in the end? Did denying fifteen million people basic human rights save the IT industry?
I like Sanders and think he holds a number of solid positions. I have heard his actions in '06 and '07 explained away in so many different ways. Not one has ever increased my respect for him during that time. Just the opposite.