The projection...it's OVER 9000!!!

But hey, mutual stalking is fun! Try and imagine just how bad I'll be if/when your corporate candidate wins the nomination and gets her lying ass handed to her in November.

C'mon...you can do it! Surely even Hillary acolytes have imaginations.

this article misses so much egregious, unprincipled behavior that really should be discussed. We have seen right here literally thousands of posts advocating oppression of any person and any group that gets in their way. All who are not with them are regarded with contempt and hostility. Liberals, the people they want to be (but different!), are intensely resented above all others.

Calls for religious oppression occur virtually every day, including right up to calls for making the practices of religion illegal, partially sometimes, totally others.

Attacks on individual people are sometimes so extreme and so vicious in their tone that the thought of what could happen if they were all in the same town is literally chilling. This extreme hostile intolerance is among us for real and has little to nothing to do with skin and everything to do with what happens when zealots are allowed to get out of control.

Group attacks with the openly avowed wish or outright intention of destroying people's reputations and careers are normal. They often promise to run liberals out of the Democratic Party and take over their apparatus for themselves (this is an ongoing fantasy).

Calls for overthrows, revolutions, and purges of various organizations, not just the party, are normal. Calls for changing or disregarding the law to benefit them and cause problems for opponents are made every day, with no regard for principle or justice. Villifying our nation is common, as are promises to overthrow the current system and install theirs. The will of the people is infallibly brushed aside as a problem each and every time it conflicts in any way with theirs.

Extremism, totalitarianism, authoritarianism, absolutism, fanaticism are all concepts suggested or outright advocated by literally thousands of posts on this forum every month.

To imagine that only blacks are in the sights of these people is to fail to regard them as what they truly are. Reacting with caution and vigilance, not assumptions that this is just more of the usual brand of bigotry, is the duty of all those who are committed to protecting our people and our nation from those who do not share its democratic principles.

when folks are so thin-skinned about themselves and their candidate, that accepting criticism withers their spirit.

I'm more than ready to take it on the chin for Bernie Sanders, since I have been doing exactly that since the moment of his announcement that he is running for President.

I'm pretty sure I'll take it again, and it won't stop my commitment to do everything I can ethically to get him elected as our President.

7 people determine whether to hide a post, and the majority voted to hide.

Nothing thin-skinned there.

Make a post;
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Contribute to censorship and diminishing this entire site.

Sanders supporters in the eyes of the public?

Or course he would!

There is no depth that that campaign will not plumb.

Great employer/employee match, that.

Bernie needs to win the nomination as he is the only one who can win. The Hillary campaign has gone with the completely moronic strategy of attacking the very people she will need to vote for her if she gets the nomination.

Why the hell should Bernie supporters vote for a candidate whose campaign launched broadbrush attacks against them and implied they were a bunch of racists and misogynists?

identified by the OP, I'll be glad to take my chances with you not supporting Hillary.

The broadbrush attacks men a whole lot of people are being falsely characterized.

So no I don't see myself as what the author described, but I do feel the author is launching baseless attacks on people like me.

If you're not the one being characterized by the OP then you're not the one being talked about (and can't claim to be mis-characterized). But thanks for the laugh.

I feel the author and the Clinton campaign are attacking all Bernie supporters, and that includes me.

Their attacks are dishonest and they will also dishonestly claim it is not about me it is about some other unnamed Bernie supporters elsewhere on the internet. When the campaign launches these sorts of broadbrush attacks against Bernie supporters however I am going to view at as a dishonest attack against myself and all other Bernie supporters.

The Clinton campaign chose to make all Bernie supporters their enemies, they may try to deny that but broadbrush attacks are attacks against everyone who supports Bernie and I have seen many broadbrush attacks.

The Hillary campaign chose to make me their enemy and they better not expect me to be their friend in November because they already burned that bridge.

I like your screen-name.

I'm a Bernie supporter who entered the primary saying I'll vote for Hillary if she's the nominee. I've maintained that position for the better part of the primaries.

At this point, however, she and many of her supporters are making that increasingly difficult for me to do.

wife and I were there, are all fake liberals. And they say we are all white and young. Not so much, I will be retiring this year. they also were not all white, so there's that. I was just saying, if Hillary keeps going down the road like in last nights debate, she will have 0 chance. Cant blame her handlers, it's on her. they may have told her what to say but it is still all on her IMO.

they get their memes of the day from Bill Clinton too.

We are all Angry White Men and WaPo loves AWM.

Oh on further review you did read the memo's sorry.
There was another AWM story in the HRC (Her Royal Colony) Group. AKA the Echo Chamber.

And here I thought it meant "Her Ridiculous Cultists."

Isn't that what we tell men who get angry when feminists write about their experiences? Same goes for Sen. Sanders' supporters.

Woe! Woe betide! We filthy, undeserving white cisgendered straight men in our gingham shirts and with our hellbound girlfriends all!

Well. Thank goodness hillary clinton doesn't need our votes to win against the Republicans. I'd hate to think of her stooping down, getting our scum under her nails as she tries to woo us, we the reprehensible, vile masses of human detritus.

Godspeed, Hillary clinton! Godspeed, Hillary clinton's supporters!

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Just asking.

it would have to be 'Hillary <somehthing>" ... that <something> would probably have to start with 'H' and rhyme with 'Bros' .. So 'Hillary H <rhymes with bros>'.

Thinking ... thinking ... thinking ... nope, just can't come up with anything.

You can claim to champion women's rights and causes while flagrantly undermining them.

That undermines the fight against sexism! Just shut up about sexism! To fight against sexism!

That sounds like a plan.

It does nothing but give cause to those that seek to undermine women's rights.

I was talking to the person who is all knowing in that department. Pardon me.

I'll be sure to remember to consult with you from now on. I promise.

as it should have been. It was disgusting and I think the consensus here on DU was "no, we don't tolerate that stuff".

And Obama did speak out and say that stuff wasn't wanted by him or his campaign, just as Bernie has.

As for the tweet I saw last night, I wished for an unlike button, but there is none. I didn't reply to it, because I didn't want to bring any attention to it -- best to let it fade away quickly.

Truthfully, by far the majority of criticism of Hillary I see from Bernie supporters is issues-based.

prefer. For whatever reason they choose.

It's about how some behave to support the candidate they're voting for. It's classic GamerGater behavior, and needs to be called out.

I'm quite capable of thinking for myself.

or similar thoughts. These are the actions of the extreme fanatics which Bernie seems to attract.

You haven't visited the Hillary group......

Oops, my bad

Neener-neener.

to have one huge brush to cover us. good luck with that, especially after last nights Hill performance.

Anyone who supports anyone but HRC is a terrible, terrible person, "the enemy" and not needed in the general election (I guess because of all the crossover appeal Clinton has, because Republicans LOVE her).

We are all to go away once the coronation happens and never speak again as we are to be banished forever from the party for the cardinal sin of not demanding a one-person "race".

I've been amazed to see how many Clinton people say that they do not need Sanders people come November.

Be careful what you wish for.

Are there odious supporters of Sanders? Yes.

There are odious Clinton supporters as well, as much as you hate to admit it.

Jeff Bezos must be shitting his pants right now.

Oh, and by the way...
I have yet to see ANYONE be so nasty as this person is alluding to on twitter or FB (the only other social media outlets that I go to.

"They use a variety of curse words and insults typically reserved for women. More than one has suggested that I deserve to become the victim of a sex crime."
That would be truly nasty and disgusting but where are all these misogynistic, violent cretins? The two times that I have seen the truly nasty stuff here was on DU and it had been dealt with by a jury.

Now when people say things out of anger like "FU Hillary or Bernie" - I don't consider that misogynist/misandry. I consider that a display of anger. Someone the other day called Bernie a f-ing something or other and it was alerted on but left to stand. Okay - I think that's just a display of anger. That's different from what the person in this article is talking about. And the ONLY reason I bring this up is because I am expecting "well you don't see the talk that people here say about Hillary?". No - I generally don't I see stuff like what I just posted because when it IS displayed, it is shut down. Last week someone posted a truly hideous picture of Hillary in the Bernie group with a terrible message and I alerted on it. It was shut down - done.

Last night someone said "FU with a brick" or something like that. That is a display of ANGER!! Someone tried to convince me it was violence against women. Not buying it. If someone said "FU with a brick, Bernie" - wouldn't that be violence against men? Or is violence against men acceptable? I actually don't think it would mean that someone really wanted to hurt Hillary or Bernie with a brick. I would just think - "that person is really angry".

I've lost my ability to be civil towards fake "liberals" who use racial divisiveness to undercut their opponent.

What's next from you folks, Willie Horton ads?

/ignore.

trash button comes in handy.

with nice words

Although "fake liberals" is also not very nice.

Remember, a progressive is generally someone who cares about and wants to help people. Cooperation is often considered a core value of the movement.

The purpose of government being to advance the common good.

just another attempt to thwart any Bernie momentum, a hit piece, some forces are desperate to derail the Bern.

find a few one-offs having a bad day .. "document" them, then make a BFD out
of it with a notoriously biased newspaper. Never mind the candidate's record,
and never mind the actually issues people care about.

What is so telling is you have NOTHING of any substance to attack Bernie with
and you need to resort to this kind of over-reaching bullshit.

if VT voters hold true, Bernie will get a good portion of repubs voting for him.

There is no reason why even the most ardent supporter of Bernie Sanders should not be able to admit that.

Making an issue out of that fact --singling out Bernie's supporters while ignoring the fact that
some Hillary supporters are just as bad -- is one of the most misguided and disgusting things
about Hillary's campaign.

HINT: Bernie's supporters are NOT running for President. Bernie is.

In this election cycle there are so many articles written every day about all things large and small.

This person spoke from her own experiences with respect to online comments and emails from some Sanders supporters.

Other people have written articles that have been critical of some Hillary supporters.

It's okay to acknowledge these incidents and reflect upon them accordingly.

People have posted articles here critical of the behavior of Trump supporters without anyone getting defensive about it. When, as you know, Trump's supporters are not running for President, Donald is.

if I offend, I'd like to know.

But I'm not going to start policing other Bernie supporters ..we are each responsible for
keeping our own house in order

if you feel obliged to police others on this, fine. I have no problem with that I guess. It's
just not where I'd like to focus my energy.

I agree with the article. I think the problem was made worse by mistakes the campaign made. Plus it's the internet which makes shit like that bad to begin with. I'd say the same thing to you. The other side does it, too? So what? Doesn't mean our side should. I can't tell you how much I hate the sexist attacks, for one thing. A Bernie supporter on here kicking a thread criticizing Hillary with Happy International Women's Day? Pisses me off. That no one had even called them on it? Makes me sad.

to me it's 99% a red herring .. I'm not going to get all re-focused on scolding fellow
Bernie supporters for occasionally loosing it.

Do I approve of "sexist" comments? Absolutely NOT.

Do I think many, if not most accusations of "sexism" are overblown and over-reaching.
Yes I do.

It's a wedge-driving divide & conquer crusade by Hillarians that I'm giving any truck to.

It doesn't embarrass you? Yeah, have your opinion. I'll continue to be embarrassed.

I've seen some Bernie supporters here call BS on some of the ridiculous, anti-Hillary hit pieces posted here.

I started out this primary undecided and simply hoping whoever won it on our side would win the general, but some of the crap I've seen posted at a supposedly Democratic site have pushed me solidly into the Hillary camp.

With Bernie's supporters generally skewing younger and whiter and Hillary supporters generally skewing older and less white.

guess. And guess what, they were not all white and young.

It is in fact HRC supporters that are being accused of being false "liberals" on *this* thread.

One of the types for Bernie are simply people who hate Hillary. That's the kind of Bernie supporter I hate and embarrasses the shit out of me, and I'm always afraid people will assume that's the kind I am. I feel like I want to qualify that I'm not that kind, especially here on DU for the few Hillary supporters that have still managed to want to stick around here despite supporters like you.

she lies about Bernie, and that happens quite often. Now you guys are calling us fake liberals. are you fucking kidding with this shit? It is exactly what you are if you still support Hillary at this point. If you don't want to stick around because of people like me, I say, don't let the door hit you on the way out. Don't go away mad, just go away.

So I'm not sure how I proved your point. I'm sorry that I don't like some of the other supporters, especially the sexist trollish ones. Too bad.

I'll add, the sexist trollish ones who just think it's not big deal at all all this sexism and racism that people are talking about, call the cops! So shocking some of the people that just do not care. What a surprise.

And oh, lookie. A Gone with the Wind reference in this thread. You're not embarrassed? I just don't get hating Hillary so much that you can't be embarrassed by some of the responses in this thread. But okay. They are proving the OP's point!

isn't with Bernie, it's with his supporters. I got no problem with the man. It's the fans I can't stand. Too much mudslinging. A certain amount of crap is expected from both sides, but the Bernie crowd seems particularly nasty. I have to remind myself not to let the fan behavior color my opinion of the candidate.

......I feel exactly the same way about the Hillary crowd. To my eyes, some of the nastiest, cringingly-smug, divisive commentary I have seen here has come from her camp.

Bumper stickers and t-shirts are now available for those who prefer to drone on endlessly about those mean old Bernie supporters.

Anything But the Issues is the new campaign focus.




*10% of all profits go to Goldman Sachs, the mic and the Clinton Supporters Foundation for the Eradication of the Legendary Mythical BernieBro.

Shut up and pay your damn taxes Bezos. Stop dodging the $1.5 billion plus interest and penalties that you've owed since 2012. IRS case number 31197-12

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511105912

This comment and link need to be included in every Washington Post story quoted in DU. It's simply not a credible source anymore.

defend Walmart,defend Sachs,defend NAFTA and so on I will take his "progressive".

on race and other issues as well, as are many of her supporters, as we see not only in this election by past elections. In fact, she has gone beyond just basic ignorance into outright intentional dog whistles when it has suited her.

The BLM protester at the all white Clinton fundraiser was just one recent glaring example. The hissing from that crowd was just hilarious, and Clinton's response about as condescending as it gets.

When it comes to not being racially tone deaf, most of America isn't up to the progressive standard, much less Democrats or their leaders, most of whom don't even identify as liberal. And it's not just white people, quite a few minorities are tone deaf to other minorities.

Which is to say, the Democratic Party is pretty damn conservative, and our nation is pretty damn segregated, and the primaries highlight that again and again. What's hilarious is trying to pin this on one candidate as part of a partisan attack.

I'd rather it was used to discuss just how out of sync most of America is with understanding other demographics, which is very true, than as part of a partisan attack on one candidate.

the ends justify the means, that morality doesn't matter in a campaign, that only winning matters, etc.

That candidate was not Bernie Sanders.

There is no reason why what you wrote and what was written in the OP cannot both be true.

But just because every politician may have at least a few asshole supporters, does not mean that all campaigns are the same. Just as the Trump campaign has a different flavor than the Obama campaign, Hillary's campaign has a different flavor from Sanders'.

And in my personal experience, hers is in fact more generally bitter, sneering, and willing to simply lie to smear their opponent.

This article is a perfect example, as is Hillary's recent auto bailout attack.

I don't see why this person can't write an article reflecting on something she observed from some Sanders supporters.

I guess we should stop supporting Bernie cuz he is a man.

I read the article and that was not at all the takeaway from it. In fact, almost every article talks about what a truly good and decent person Bernie is - and how sometimes some of his more zealous supporters behave in a way that is not always similar to Bernie himself.

Berni Bros bad, so support Hillary because she doesn't have Bernie Bros on her side.

Just take a step back and try to look at it objectively.

I am someone who respects and admires Bernie Sanders but can also acknowledge what the OP is talking about. It by no means in any way impacts my feelings about Sanders himself.

Are you really not able to get that?

I might be down to 95% now.

"Posted an OP claiming that the terrorist attacks in Paris were an effort to distract the public from the crimes of Jewish bankers. Posted link to disgusting antisemitic website to support this theory."
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=292436&sub=trans

Here is a nugget from that poster from a year before: ""The openness and brazenness of the LBGT agenda and the media flaunting of gay marriages all across the country cost Dems dearly and threatens to do so in the future."
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025764803#post45


Here is that poster doing the Hillary Boosting Act with a supporting chorus of regulars.....

Did Hillary's speech on Baltimore become so good that the networks had to cut her off?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026587992

So that's a Hillary supporter. Should I use the methods of the OP and use that supporter and others like her as definitive of the entire lot? That's what you are doing. Are you really wanting to be defined by all the individuals who say they support Hillary? If not, do not do that unto others.

ONLY Bernie has some supporters who mis-speak or are less than perfect.

Hillary supporters are ALL pure as the driven snow.

Did you now know this? Don't you read DU?

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They are often called out for being shills and liars and whatnot.

In fact, last time around they were derided as PUMAs.

distract, divide & conquer, trot-out "worst offenders" tweets,
besmirch a candidate with "guilt by association" because someone
claiming to support that candidate acts like an ass.

I think the main reason this is even an issue is that Hillary supporters
can't find much else to criticize Bernie about, so they default to calling-
out his "evil supporters"..

I'm sorry, I don't have time or energy to give to that. If other Bernie folk
want to police one another, fine. maybe that's a good think, just now MY
thing.

media to smear Bernie supporters with sophomoric identity politics psychobabble that has no basis in fact.

So boring, so yesterday's Clinton camp smear propaganda. Some people will do, say, or write anything for money.

She has written articles criticizing all candidates on both sides of the aisle.

Have you read this:

Why Hillary Clinton’s ‘super-predator’ concession is such a big moment for political protest

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/02/26/why-hillary-clintons-super-predator-apology-is-such-a-big-moment-for-political-protest/

That article coddles Clinton, and actually swerves out of it's way to take swings at Sanders. The article in the OP is much more damning of Sanders' campaign for something he *hasn't* done, than that second article is of Hillary for something she *did* do.

Sorry, but that writer is hardly impartial.

The article in the OP is not even critical of Bernie at all - just some of his supporters.

Here are the headlines for some of her other articles about Hillary:

Nobody involved in the Madeleine Albright-Gloria Steinem-Hillary Clinton flap has much to be proud of

Why can’t Hillary Clinton find a good answer on Goldman Sachs? Maybe there isn’t one.

Hillary Clinton just suggested she’s not ‘establishment.’ Come on.

And not at all some Hillary shrill, just as you say. It's the Washington Post, but it's The Fix, which often has good articles. I've seen it sourced by other Bernie supporters here for great articles on Bernie. So seeing it used as an excuse in this thread to dismiss this is pretty weak.

more manufactured trash talk

I totally agree with quotes like this from above -- "They [Sanders's supporters] insist that black voters are dumb or that I have a personal obligation to help black voters see the error of their Clinton-voting ways." It's darn disgusting truthfully.

You must've won the jury lottery. They've been alert stalking our group all day.

Go to twitter and see for yourself. It's vile.

And read a bunch of Latinos supporting Trump, so I guess if not Bernie I will vote Trump because if Latinos don't fear him and are actually supporting him he must not mean what he is saying?

I seriously wonder whether they are Clinton operatives. She's hired people to like her on facebook, so why not hire people to "like" Sanders and behave badly? There's already a very questionable history to Hillary. Her supporters will say politics ain't beanbag in order to excuse this kind of shit, but it seriously damages her credability. When I hear her supporters whining about some BernieBros being mean to them, it's really hard to take them seriously.

Given WaPos employment of hacks like Capehart, I'll consider this more bs they're flinging.

It seems likely that Hillary is creating people to make Sanders look bad - manufacturing them herself.

Because out come the "ZOMG racist sexist berniebros o no" memes, again.

Thanks for posting it.

Washington Post

It's getting silly at this point.

today?

We have to be getting close.

and have instructed their minions to post that one far and wide

http://fair.org/home/washington-post-ran-16-negative-stories-on-bernie-sanders-in-16-hours/

http://fair.org/home/shocker-wapo-investigates-itself-for-anti-sanders-bias-finds-there-was-none/

Before the bullcrap about "Bernie Bros", it was the "Obama Boys" (yes, the Clintons went there...)

http://www.salon.com/2008/04/14/obama_supporters/

After all the articles trashing bernie 16 in 16 hours, you still wanna trust what Wapo has to say about Bernie and his supporters
Please give up the fake outrage.

Sneaking this in. Setting it down here, all quiet-like in the middle of all this fuss. I've mentioned it a couple of times, thinking, surely, people are seeing this? But it's frigging invisible! They really don't see it.

You know exactly what you're doing.