2016 Postmortem
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(72,790 posts)noretreatnosurrender
(1,890 posts)I'm not a fan of Maher and haven't been for quite some time (long before the primaries).
pkdu
(3,977 posts)+1
Stand and Fight
(7,480 posts)Like it or not, some people need a reality check. If you do nothing to prevent Trump from winning the White House by not voting, then you're as good as voting for Trump and that's absolutely inexcusable.
Dem2
(8,168 posts)"Hmmm, I didn't win the contest for that $100. Damn, now I'm going to have to burn this $1000 bill to show my disgust."
oasis
(49,410 posts)Lil Missy
(17,865 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Threatening us with Trump won't work and is counter productive. If you want to save the USofA, then support Sanders. If you are willing to give the country to Goldman-Sachs, then support Clinton.
malletgirl02
(1,523 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)and millions and millions of Americans know this. Those that have got off their couch and come out to support Sen Sanders see hope and are willing to fight for it. But if the Ruling Class flexes their muscles and puts H. Clinton in the General, it's just more of the same fucking corruption we've seen for decades. Shake your finger all you want but if you don't want the country to crash, THEN DON'T SUPPORT CLINTON. In 2000 the progressive tried to tell the idiot conservatives running the party that they would not be blackmailed into supporting the fucking DLC and Gore, a continuation of Clinton. The Party leaders didn't care, they were willing to let Bush win rather than find a progressive. And here we are again. Well Bill, if you want Trump, then vote for H. Clinton.
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)It's a big mistake this time to be threatening those of us who support Bernie that dire things will happen if we don't vote for whoever wins.
You can not constantly ridicule and attack people and then turn around and demand they give their votes, loyalty, and money to the party that says they are not Democrats at all.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)supporting the Ruling Classes candidate.
malletgirl02
(1,523 posts)are constantly attacking and ridiculing Bernie supporters and they not only have the nerve to complain about the Bernie Bros, but they demand Sanders supporters to vote for Hilary even though they never stop ridiculing us. They think we owe Hilary Clinton some kind of feudal homage, but they need to know votes are earned, no politician is entitled to anyone's vote. I will vote for Hillary if she wins the general election, but after all the insults fro Clinton supporters I will not donate money or volunteer for her campaign.
Stallion
(6,476 posts)because Hindenburg was part of the Establishment
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)(Clinton) but for a progressive, Sen Sanders.
I hope you weren't making an argument to vote for the Establishment like Hindenburg because he was the cause of a Hitler coming to life just like the current corrupt Establishment brought us Trump. Don't vote for Hindenburg or Clinton, they are the problem that brings us Trump. We need change, progressive change, and all good Democrats should recognize that.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Kelvin Mace
(17,469 posts)So, explain your analogy.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)If the old one is the kind that is likely to run us into ditch or be driven over a cliff?
Thanks, Bill, but I don't invest faulty buses just because ones painted blue.
BernieforPres2016
(3,017 posts)I think there is a vastly larger difference between Bernie and Hillary than there is between Hillary and either Kasich or Rubio. I will grant that Trump and Cruz are both potential fascist dictators.
malletgirl02
(1,523 posts)Votes have to be earned. For the record I will vote for Clinton is the nominee, but you can't demand votes. I constantly see insults toward Sanders supporters from Clinton supporters, but you have the nerve to demand Sanders supporters vote for Hilary.
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)And that is very final.