She "gathers" a whole lot of disassociated things together to answer a question. She's always trying to add something in that will either gain more points or perhaps run the time clock.

It's weird, and it's how she makes this kind of gaffe.

them time.

... throw the kitchen sink at the questioner and let them walk away scratching their head. It'll take them an hour or two to realize you never really answered, and by then you're on to another subject / questioner.

who does this.

And she SEES all those connections in her head when she looks at an issue. It's natural, and it's a very rare talent. But the mark of really having MASTERED it is that you know when to shut up and FOCUS..and don't try to get others to see what she sees, because it's too complicated and people get lost trying to follow how fast her thought process is actually moving. She needs to slow down and nit get bogged down in the chaos of multiple vector points; most people are not as smart as she is and cannot keep up. This isn't a slam. It's just how some minds work. I respect it a lot. But when she isn't paying enough attention she says dumb stuff like this.

She NEEDED to say, yeah, people in coal country will lose their jobs. When that happens, they will be the first new hires at the local Solar Panel factory that the Federal Government is going to build here. Lots of long-term jobs NOT tearing the planet apart for burnable dirt. At comparable wages to what they're earning now, that's a pretty good deal and you'd be silly not to vote for that.

But she didn't say any of that to my knowledge. So there's that...

If she weren't starting to stress out. Losing Michigan I think was a wake-up call that she isn't the Nominee YET, and if a lot of us have our way, she won't be. If she loses OH and IL, I expect her campaign heads to go into full Panic Mode.
you ain't SEEN Hippie-punching like you'll see if that happens. Count on it, and be ready is about all I can say.

Her trying so hard to win primary if the slim chance she actually gets the nomination it will have cost her the GE.

That sums up both her presidential attampts, imho.
She needs to spend more time being her natural, introverted, brilliant self and less time trying to be her extroverted husband. Her strength is her intelligence, not her charm. She's trying to be all things to all people. What a waste of brainpower she's engaging in.

There is no way she could be where she is if she wasn't smart. She has the kind of smart we really need. It might be the best place to use that intelligence is not the presidency.
I think she suffers from the same problem as Obama, too much advice from too constricted a viewpoint.
Get down in the dirt and listen to the kitchen table economists or stand shoulder to shoulder with someone who can't stay on their feet long enough to pay the bills.

I'd support her in a heartbeat if I thought she was on side of most of America. The money says she's not.

Rather awkward, actually. I've seen better. We all have.

It's the TRUTH that makes her awkward...

If Hillary was like that all the time it would be a lot better.

Because it's true, and addresses the concerns of a large group of people who are too often ignored.

Trust me, it will be everywhere tomorrow.

It will become a take away quote for her from this town hall, which otherwise should have been a positive for her, given the moderators challenged NONE of her responses.

Instead, she'll walk away with this quote, and Sanders will walk away with his zingers on Trump.

Nobody wants to take jobs away from people. We want people to have better, cleaner, jobs.

That whole Reagan thing. Wondering where Bernie was when she was working on Health Care. The lie about the auto bail out and now this.

All unforced errors within the last week.


Maybe she is starting to feel some pressure and this is how she reacts.



Terrible candidate. We need to nominate someone else.

We'll she how much this blows up. The number of items already, within a couple hours of the statement, is not a good sign for her though.

Worse, this quote is a serious problem for Dems in the General if she wins the nomination. Just look at the states involved. Dumb, dumb, dumb.

So I wouldn't worry about that just YET.
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basically an irreversible change that puts all government money spending n services that has any commercial competition into competitive bidding- with the result being subcontracting with developing country workers who will work for a fraction of what US workers work for, so we will keep the 40% waste layer that adds no value (parasitic insurance industry) become even mre of a poster child for medical injustice, and lose our country's high paying service jobs just so that the people who bankroll Hillary can make even more money on human misery.

I really don't think we want her in the Oval Office.

He's on record about climate change. Is he going to carve out some exception for coal?

Politics 101.

One candidate is willing to admit the reality, the other pretends it's all going to work itself out.

...about taking away jobs.

Bottom line, she didn't have to I interject coal, and she did so poorly.

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I'm guessing she did neither.

As if she immediately realized she had made a mistake and was desperately trying to think of a way out.

and never suffers any miscues. Now whether you want to believe it or not is up to you. Have a great evening.

You always have to consider the source!
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Instead of a warmongering hawk.

technologies, which offer long term employment WITHOUT the huge risk to health. Burlington Vermont is already using 100% clean green renewable energy.

However being a little too blunt with your message isn't going to win any favors. SHould have used language like going to transition coal companies to become energy companies - coal mine workers to become energy workers - to train and work on the new renewable and alternative energy sources. Use gas and nuclear as the bridge between coal and 100% renewables.

Yes, American coal is cheap and plentiful... but it is dirty. I don't know how much coal gasification makes it cleaner (or not) because I haven't read up on the subject. I do know about coal gasification because before North Sea gas came available in the UK gas was coal-gas and gas appliances had to be converted to run on the North Sea gas.

Thats going to happen a lot, I bet. She wants to force wages down with her and Bill's legacy, a 20 year long negotiated trade deal on services whose bait has been the prospect of being able to win contracts in developed countries like the US by being the lowest qualified bidder in international competitive bidding. Maybe not coal miners at first, unless some government money is nvolved.. but its entirely possible it could happen in fields that they have declared are suffering labor shortages 9which likely would happen if wages dropped really low in response to a secondary effect of workers in the public sector being replaced by very low wage subcontractors) Due to supply and demand, when more people want a job than are jobs - wages fall, they could fall a lot.

GATS and tiSA are neoliberal shock treatment, globalization of services. it will be a nightmare for many Americans.

This is what Bernie said by Americans should not be forced to compete directly with people who make really low wages for the same jobs. I am not doubting that they could do the work but its like a stab in the back to millions of middle class workers many who carry a lot of debt.

our extremely bloated, expensive military.

They know not what they do.

They can't reckon beyond their noses.

A bunch of fools.

You can't maintain our military without a lot of tax revenue, and when you outsource and export the middle class jobs that pay enough to allow people to pay taxes and still subsist, you lose great amounts of tax revenue.

Poof! Money for things like scientific research (including health) but most certainly the military is simply not there.

It's a little complex for the likes of the Clintons, but it is the real problem with international trade that has gone too far and is going to destroy our country.

Everything, including trade, in moderation. The Clintons are not moderates when it comes to trade. They would like to just sell our economy out.

We cannot afford another neo-con president. We cannot afford Hillary.

Especially given that it seems to be such a rare occasion for her.

Disregarding the crap about being "the only candidate" and other hyperbole, moving away from fossil fuels will put coal miners out of work. My understanding of what she was saying (and maybe I "misheard&quot was an admission of that, and saying she had a plan to help mitigate their job losses. Given that, while it sounded very inartful, it's not something I would get riled up about.

What I would get riled up about would probably be the help she's proposing. If it's anything like the assistance that came after NAFTA, then she can keep it. I watched factories and manufacturing leave cities and towns, and carpetbagger "training" companies and the like move in, offering expensive training that proved worthless to most of those who lost ther jobs. Usually it was priced at exactly what the gov't was paying, but occasionally they'd hook those people for even more.

I agree with her on the issue, but I don't know why she brought it up so awkwardly at the town hall. It would be a devastating ad against her in several important states in the GE.

come back to bite in the general.

complained about Trump saying wages are too LOW in Ohio. What's wrong with that? I guess Bernie meant to say HIGH. Gaffe! Oh no!

Just trying to show making a big deal out of a gaffe can work both ways.

So much emphasis on that damned "R", lol.

I didn't hear "aren't," I heard "are," and when he repeated it I thought "huh?" I probably wasn't alone. But it was totally obvious what he meant.

Seriously, I haven't seen a candidate try so hard to throw themselves off a cliff since McCain picked Palin as his running mate.

Clinton campaigning to end the use of coal for electrical generation would be something that'd make me support her.

or two. I haven't read much here or anyone else since watching the town hall. I choose to view gaffes as gaffes rather than freudian slips. As freud said 'sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.'

Political rule #1 : Never interrupt your opponent when they are self-destructing.

He had to wonder WTF it came from?

This clip will be used by Republicans in the GE if she's nominated. The end of it is just so weird, the way she smiled. Someone at OP's link posted it.

https://twitter.com/JimmyPrinceton/status/709198879636324353/video/1

Or whoever she oddly called out to for emergency "back up".

She clearly realized that she had made a big mistake. A statement like this could risk 4 states in the general election. So strange that, with her skill as a politician, she would just blurt it out.

Unless she memorizes a script, she seems to falter.

But now she's going to make them not be hard working any more.

surprising to anyone?

I'm glad to see a politician be truthful on coal, oil, gunz, etc. Might not be smart to tell the truth, but it is the truth.

Economic opportunities. It is not a gaffe.

What are Bernie's plans to help the poor, especially the coal region?

to the depressed coal areas. If you took enough time to stop cherry picking her statements and listen to her full context and statement. Who else's is talking about helping the economic and social well-being for these people?

depressed areas. Her ad can start out by saying the other ad is a distortion and prove it.

Because that's almost as good a story as the one about the time Ron and Nan cure AIDS by mocking the sick!!!

What's wrong with her? The thing I noticed most is that as soon as she said it a look came over her face that screamed, "Oh shit, I've done it again." Then she tried to clean it up by talking clean energy jobs, but the damage was done. Her admission about not being a natural politician showed up in neon lights.

Its when she tries to be a fake progressive liberal, she screws it all up.

Remember the infamous~

right wing cudgel to try to bash HRC? Frankly, this is as dishonest as Romney taking one sentence in which Obama, in the prior campaign, said something like "McCain won't talk about the economy. His people are saying "If we talk about the economy, we'll lose," and shortening it in an ad to Obama saying "If we talk about the economy, we'll lose."
As for the one line you and Rand Paul and every right wing website out there are citing:
"The broader context is that Clinton introduced that comment by saying she is "the only candidate which has a policy about how to bring economic opportunity using clean, renewable energy as the key into coal country," and that she has a plan to help those who stand to lose jobs.

"We're going to make it clear that we don't want to forget those people. Those people labored in those mines for generations, losing their health -- often losing their lives -- to turn on our lights and power our factories. Now we've got to move away from coal and all the other fossil fuels, but I don't want to move away from the people who did the best they could to produce the energy which we relied on."
http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/13/politics/democratic-town-hall-analysis-takeaways/index.html?eref=rss_topstories
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The truth is that she was talking about developing jobs in the clean energy sector both as a goal in itself an also as a vehicle for creating jobs. She has spoken about this many times. For example:
http://www.cbsnews.com/videos/hilary-clinton-u-s-economy-needs-clean-energy-to-survive/

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Now, if you actually want to know more about what she has said about clean energy, you can start here:
http://correctrecord.org/hillary-clinton-smart-energy-innovation/

Exactly.

I agree with Hillary on this issue.

A "gaffe" is mistakenly setting yourself up for easy political attack, which you have also noted happened with that awkwardly phrased point about coal mining.

Bernie made his gaffe with the "No poor white people" thing and it is now a meme. So i don't think that's what she intended.

I think people (including politicians) just f-up sometimes with their choice of words.

We need to stop burning that stuff. It is that simple. Come up with a retraining plan for workers in that industry and shut it all down. Coal sucks as a fuel. Period.

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