The other is that the GOP sucks worse.

Not very inspriring motivation, but have gotten used to it. Life will go on, and hopefully we won't hit true dystopia too soon.

and it becomes frustrating I know....the lesser of 2 evils is still the lesser of 2 evils.. You and others know what would happen to our country if a conservative gets into the whitehouse


the lesser of 2 evils is still better than a known evil of the magnitude of today's conservatives

The DLC and the front-loading of southern states in "super-Tuesday" was a consequence of unseating the previous powers-that-were who are referred to a "northeastern Liberals".

Once these syndicates of control become established they are rather hard to unseat. They exist to maintain control and as PTB construct and maintain rules that promote those who share their political views.

It did for many Democrats but the Republican base hasn't moved much. I fear that it will take another and more severe economic collapse to galvanize the common American into demanding change. The difference between the Hillary and Sanders camps has just been the issue of timing IMO.

I think those thick headed fools need another economic meltdown before they wake up.

And rallied us to better things and beat back the GOP.

But it's all speculation. It is what it is.

One Party can't defeat the special interest alone. The Republican base cheered on their representatives as they shutdown government, used an unprecedented amount of filibusters and voted 62 times to repeal the ACA. That's why I think it will take another economic collapse to wake those fools up.

There's a flip side to Trump's popularity on the other side. There's an economic populist element to it that is also a rebellion against that party's corporate establishment too.

In addition to the creepy bigot factor, I think it does show that a lot of GOP rank and file people are fed up with their party's corporate dominance too. I think more of them are seeing through the veil of their own party's allegiance to economic special interests at their own expense.

That is NOT to defend Trump, or to deny the bigotry involved. But economically, I think there's a message there that democrats should be paying attention to.

But Trump talks in broad generalities about the economy. What are these Trump supporters grabbing hold of on economics when the guy limits himself to saying that he's going to make great deals ? The guy has his clothing line manufactured abroad.

I sense another thing though. Nixon took the most virulent racists off our hands in 1968. How many racists have built up in our Party since 1968 ? Could this just be a second purging ? If so, I say good riddance.

IMO he is striking a chord of discontent among Republicans and conservatives against the effects of trickle down (piss on) economics and their party's orientation to the Wealthy and Powerful.

It's paradoxical I realize, but trump's a good salesman, and he is pitting himself (publicly) against the vested special economic interests min symbolic terms.

If the Democrats were smart, they'd see that as an opportunity to do some poaching to weaken the GOP. But that would also require changes in that party too.

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It's not the seeming inevitability of the loss of the race, it's the greater loss to the people. We were so close. Now it looks like business as usual, a "choice" between a tool of the oligarchy and an actual oligarch.

Cascadian independence can't come too soon...

it'd be a lot easier to shrug shoulders and say "Oh well my candidate lost."

This was more symbolic of much deeper forces.