will never tell a voter how to vote, or demand loyalty pledges. But... and don't worry, Trump already shifted and those who complain about nasty Bernie are going to be in for a surprise. Me, my only surprise is that it started today. I expected that to wait until tomorrow.

Us Hillary supporters are going to be so shocked.

regardless of who they support to be shocked. Sorry. I just do.

But nice smear. By the way welcome to the list. By the time this is over I will be in no talking terms with at least half of you guys... and your attitudes and attacks will suppress the vote. I just hope you do not take it to the real world... I suspect otherwise though.

are you purposely missing?

And I am non partisan. Sorry charlie, that is the way it is. And I am very happy NOT TO FALL IN LOVE WITH ANY CANDIDATE and expect betrayal regardless of who wins. Who you nominate is your fucking business, clear enough.

they will be shocked.

Shit.

This changes. . . this changes EVERYTHING!

Things can still change. Things happen all time.


Yes it will be very difficult for Bernie to come back, but not any more difficult than what it already has been to make it this far.

People calling the race as over right now clearly have an agenda. They aren't simply reporting results; they are trying to influence the results.

I just do this from analysis perspective. It is what it is.

What's "Up for grabs" is who is gonna get paid out of Bernie's soon-to-be dwindling war chest.

this is of course, not counting Super-Delegates.

Superdelegates will shift around if the pledged delegate count is compelling.

NOT accurate, but pretty. I got that.

It says what it is. It doesn't count superdelegates, and there's a reason for that.

But not impossible.

Pie for everyone!

of the total remaining delegates to win the nomination.

They haven't updated the Democratic race yet, but they will soon. It's under the delegate tracker section.

He still needs 2383 for the nomination, whether you want to count superdelegates or not. That is the requirement to win the nomination.

You can't "win" superdelegates.

They aren't "won". They do whatever they want for whatever reason they choose. That can switch at any time between now and July. They have done so in the past.

What I'm reporting is on the regular delegates, the "pledged" delegates.

To win a majority of the pledged delegates a candidate needs 2026. Because there are 4051 total pledged delegates.

The superdelegates might choose to align with the winner of the pledged delegates, or they might choose to override and go with a different candidate. That is their choice.

Which tells me they weren't calculating in superdelegates.

My point is that Bernie or anyone needs the same threshold for nomination, regardless of whether you like Superdelegates. He can't reach that lower number and be the nominee. Besides, he's not getting anywhere near that number. That much should be obvious by now.
He was blown out last night, despite HUGE ad buys, far in excess of Clinton: 3 to 1 in some states, 60-40 in others.

Two days ago we talked on here about this same subject.

Today after 5 more states have voted Bernie's situation is a bit worse, but it's totally premature to start switching into "general election mode" when less than half of delegates have even been awarded.

As of today, March 17, Bernie would have to win 58% of the remaining delegates to win a majority of the pledged delegates.

This is nothing about "liking" superdelgates. It's that when you say he needs a certain percentage, you need to be clear if you are counting pledged delegates or superdelegates. Because I think the way they are coming up with those high requirements is because they are assuming that no superdelegates will switch. And maybe that's true, but there's no evidence of that. On the other hand there is evidence that they would switch because they have before. Not only that but there's a cost to the party if they don't switch.

But that's why we have an election. What are you saying, don't do the election for half the country because the result is too obvious?

Have the elections, but he's not going to win. He couldn't win a single state last night. How is he going to get 58% of the remaining delegates? Where is the money going to come from to sustain that level of operation and advertising, spending that didn't even bring about wins?

I've voted for primary candidates long after they left the race. In 2004 I voted for Dean in Florida, even when only Kerry was left. There is nothing unusual about holding primaries after the race is effectively decided. For one thing there are state nominations to decide. Democrats tend to drop out when they know they can't win because they care about the party's general election prospects. Bernie's concerns are quite different, and that is one way in which his not officially being a Democrat reveals itself. This isn't like 2008 because Clinton's lead is much greater than Obama's was (some three times as great).

I guess it's just going to take all of you some time to come to terms with it, but you'll have to eventually.

Hillary Clinton noted that tragic incident when explaining why she was staying in the race against Obama in 2008.

Anything could happen. Bernie has a string of states coming up he's going to try and do well in to change the momentum.

True, it's very unlikely for Bernie to make a comeback. But there's a big difference between unlikely and "he should just drop out".

I honestly think that the people telling Bernie to drop out now are people who hate democracy and love authority.

Don't give them an inch.

Thanks for the thread, Cheese Sandwich.

thanks