They have covered up a whole raft of trad issues like for example, virtually everything we've been told on health care since 1993 or so is FALSE.

You would not want to be Clinton and WIN, that will be just the beginning of her AND OUR NATION'S problems. The truth will OUT and when it does, she and her allies in the industries involved will be wanted people. And I don't mean in a good way, I mean in the worst way imaginable.

Remember Helsinki and Nuremberg

working out of the Cinderella castle?

Let's, for the first time ever, nominate a candidate under federal investigation!

fads?

Is this going to unite everybody so if Hillary is the candidate we can all come together and support her?

HA!
Mirror . . . face . . .

It seems it can come from both sides.

To hold up voting and promote his wife. They've cheated in my mind, and they lost my support. How can we support someone who will cheat and cut corners at every chance. Support the woman who took our one chance away. Forget it!!!!

I will caucus for him and continue to donate until the convention.

At that time, I will decide my participation level for the remaining election cycle.

I have a 23 year old son and his friends are enamored with Bernie (and free college, which is why it was his first proposal) even though they seem to know nothing about the delegate / primary process, how bills get passed (or don't get passed), Sanders actual record, or really much of anything else.

They are so cute.

Wow that really sucks. At his age, he should be either on the verge of his undergraduate degree or working on his Masters. If he's either one of those, where's he been going to school? University of Phoenix?

Man if I were you I'd be really really pissed and feelin' like I'd wasted a ton of money on just about nothing at all. He's not one of those kids who goes to school just to avoid going to work is he? Still living at home?

"I have a 23 year old son... seem to know nothing about... how bills get passed... or really much of anything else."

Whoa.

My kid is very politically informed because he grew up in the home of two political activists. I used to take him to committee meetings and he would do his homework while we met. Once he grabbed a bullhorn and did a speech on a Seattle street. And it was so damn good he was asked to speak in front of over a thousand people (he was 11 years old). My kid is not the problem.

The mob rule here is over.

Every hide I've ever had was because of "alert stalking" I guess.

So of course you haven't experienced it.

married for love.

And the hits just a keep on comin'.

so I must ask, do you still have the shovel? There must be some reason you omitted them.

(I'm hoping you know what I mean, if you don't this post will really fall flat).

The first time I saw the movie I almost bit my tongue when the old man said that.

His narration absolutely made the movie. And I have to admit, when I read the book for the second time after seeing the movie, it was in his voice... twice as good as the first time I read it. If you haven't read The Right Stuff I highly recommend it.

And The Band god DAMN I'm not even going to get into how they might have missed without him.

But you knew that.
And you get special privileges?
Wow.

I am really laughing at this.

Maggie, I mean it, you must try stand up... I mean it.

Before you post this fine comedy next time, warn me... I should not have any to drink near by... snort!

If he had at least one fifth of the Dems in congress supporting him I would say she don't have a worthwhile case against him in regards to his popularity.

If that is the kind of truths you praise then I guess it explains things.

and the majority of those in the auditorium reported the person as being "nude".

Would you accuse them of being dishonest?

Some of it depends on context -- in the present context MaggieD's interests are to downplay (and apparently completely misrepresent the reality of) Sanders' support so her bias pushes the inaccuracies into lies. Most people would see it this way.

Because it will make everyone more civil... or reasons... or something:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1013&pid=5098

... and that people have gotten strikes based more on political leanings.

I got one strike, mostly because I haven't posted much here and didn't know that there were "protected" groups where you could only talk nice about a candidate. I chose the threads I read/replied based on the front page and the "latest threads" tab, so I really didn't know/understand the "group" concept used here. Then, I fact checked someone with some reality, they all got the vapors and got me banned from posting in the protected group and the original post hidden.

But woweewowwoww talk about transparent!

How wrong and uninformed they are?
How Bernie is just a fad?
That must be super productive?

And I trust if they stay involved they will learn. However, I certainly do not want them choosing my presidential candidate. Last cycle they loved Rand Paul. This cycle it's Bernie. Whatever.

But, Nooooo.. here we go again.. wth.

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I am happy to see them involved in the political process
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Referring to the Democrats, including good DUers who support Bernie Sanders as former Ron Paul supporters is beyond the pale and offensive. The poster is stirring shit, looking for a rise and flames. This is what Skinner said we need to stop.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Wed Mar 16, 2016, 07:34 PM, and the Jury voted 2-5 to LEAVE IT.

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Explanation: This is someone referring to real people who used to support Ron Paul and now support Bernie Sanders. I really don't see the problem with that.
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choosing my presidential candidate. But why should my choice ever matter? I only live in the world's 8th largest economy, and the most diverse state in the nation.

I would suppose they wouldn't know this. Hard to tell them about democratic principles when you support a candidate that supports, fracking, the death penalty, perpetual war, private prisons. Hard to teach anything when you sell yourself out believing in continual evolutions of policy depending on the crowd. I would understand why they are confused about the democratic party when the current delegate leader in the democratic party is a Rockefeller republican at best.

if they were easily discouraged by long odds, they never would have turned out for him.

He has like zero chance of being the nominee, but he will win a few more states.

That's all we need to know.

I wonder just who she thinks we are?
If she doesn't want insulting replies she should not make insulting posts. Simple as that.

She offered an analysis. You don't have to agree with it, but there's no call to fling PERSONAL insults at her.

I am asking you to stop.

You're really going out of your way to be churlish, too, I see.

we covered that one yesterday. How about belligerent today?

Kalidurga
100. Nah it just took a quick scroll. By the way you need a new word of the day...
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we covered that one yesterday. How about belligerent today?

It's not like people can't read you and it's not like Maggie hasn't earned a reputation. I'm okay with you taking the high road this time though.

There's ignore, or HIDE THREAD, which are much better options than getting personal.

I would love to see that way modeled. It would probably look good on you.

He doesn't just need to win, he needs sustained blowouts in states that have a decent number of delegates. I don't see that happening. I don't see him bringing it home in a big way in places like NY (where Clinton is a known quantity, having tromped all over that state and knowing it better than many governors) or neighboring CT, or PA.

You've got to bring it home in diverse states with dense population centers. Sanders never cracked that code. I can't see him doing it at this late stage of the game.

We'll slog on, but the end result, after a fair amount of wailing, teeth gnashing, threats, promises, invective, rancor, tears and recriminations, is that Clinton will be our nominee, and Sanders, unless he wants to fall on his sword and bleed out, will stand up on that convention stage and give her a robust, full-throated endorsement.

And she could do worse picking him as her Labor Secretary. That would free up his seat for Shumlin to grab, and it would allow him to pursue the issue nearest and dearest to his heart. Win-win.

Get over it .. . stop trying to make up this nonsense and talk about your candidate's stance on the issues. Where's that transcript?

Have you read the admin's guidance going forth, here?

If not, I suggest you do.

And I suggest you "get over it" and stop being so obstreperous to people who do not support your favored candidate.

He thought he could just plop down and all would come flocking. That did not happen with AA, Latinos, or apparently senior citizens, unions, or LGBT people. And it won't happen just because he shows up in NY or CA a few weeks before the race either.

As for a cabinet post, I say no to any slot. There is a reason his colleagues have not endorsed him. The ones I know say he is very hard to work with.

And he'll never get ANYTHING done if he doesn't play ball with the legislature.

Also, Shumlin could run for his Senate seat, putting a reliable "D" in his slot, while he finishes out an honorable career of public service at Labor.

I think there's a lot to recommend the idea. Of course, it's all down to who the POTUS wants to put in that cabinet seat.

I'm not kidding when I tell you that he has no endorsements from colleagues in congress because they do not want to work with him. I know a lot of people think it's because the supers prefer Clinton, and I am sure that is part of it. But it is also because (as some of his past staff members have said) he's an ass.

Bernie has received several congressional endorsements. Others (Barbara Lee) are waiting until closer to the state primary.

His colleagues do not like him. I know you guys want to believe Hillary has some mafia that forces supers to endorsement, but it's not about her, it's about him.

Let me bring everyone else up to speed. You said:

That's your argument?

Anything else would just be digging yourself deeper.

Sorry, that's the truth. That is the rep he has.

In case you have "forgotten" the facts you can refresh your memory by re-reading Post #149.

Are you a mind reader? I think he's as surprised as everyone that he has made it this far.
Please look into his record before you insult his accomplishments. Here are some points to consider.
1. He co-created in 1991 the now largest democratic congressional membership organization, the Progressive Caucus.
2. While a congressman with Republican's running the country in 1994 he became known as the "Amendment King", two of his biggest achievements,

"When the Affordable Care Act was in danger of not having the votes to pass, Sanders used his leverage to win enough funding for free health treatment for 10 million Americans through Community Health Centers. This gutsy move—holding out until the funds were put into the bill—has even Republican members of Congress requesting the funds, which have helped millions of Americans who otherwise would not have access.

Another moment came when Sanders, who was then chair of the Veterans committee, worked with Sen. John McCain (R-AZ), to overhaul the Veterans Administration. McCain praised Sanders' work on the bill in an interview with National Journal. Sen. Jack Reed (D-RI) even went so far as to say the bill would never have passed without Sanders' ability to bring the parties to a deal."

3. They won't endorse him because they are scared, they like their jobs, and they can't count on small donors because they rely on outside interests (part of the truth). They also, think, probably correctly, that Hillary will be the nominee and even if she loses, Bernie won't hold it against them, whereas Clinton would probably blacklist them.

I await your reply eagerly.

I have followed the campaign closely. He and his supporters just don't seem to comprehend why he hasn't caught on. It is obvious to a lot of us - particularly, AA, women, and LGBT people. His is so completely tone deaf on these issues.

And I promise you are wrong about why he is not being endorsed. No one is scared. No one. It's the same reason he has never been able to get anything accomplished in congress. He is a cold, arrogant, person, and he simply does not work well with people. Dennis Kucinich was the same way, by the way.

Listen to the rethugs talk about why they do not like Ted Cruz. Same thing.

TONE DEAF?? Are you a troll? Hillary didn't publicly accept gay marriage until 2013. He has a better rating from the HRC. He's been pro-choice for 40 years and was arrested for fighting public school education in the 1960's. How is he "tone-deaf"????
I'm throwing in the towel, you seem to want to avoid any form of intelligent discussion.

Because I don't think you know anything about LGBT issues. But you think you can explain it to me, a person who has been active on the issue for more than 15 years.

That is emblematic of Bernie's problem.

You're wrong and won't even look it up yourself. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the HUMAN RIGHTS CAMPAIGN, rates Hillary Rodham Clinton at 88% and Bernie Sanders at 100%.

You can't even straight 'splain it because you have no idea. LOL!

Democrats??? He should be whisked immediately to the Republicans!!! He's not worthy of your party. I wonder if Mrs. Clinton feels the same? Hint: She doesn't think like you. She admires Senator Sanders and wants him and his supporters on her side. Keep it up. You're great for party morale Maggie (sarcasm).

But he would look like a fool if he did, so it's his problem - not mine. And frankly, I have never considered him much of an asset to the Dem party.

Nominations on hold. The country's business gridlocked. You're laughable in your sad attempt to not be a hypocrite.

That's up to him. Don't care.

and genuine concern. Your inner core of decency and integrity shows through every time you post. In conclusion I just can't say how much I admire your intelligence and sensitivity because I don't.

If she can't win voters on the issues, she doesn't deserve to win.
Stop whining and get on with campaigning.
See you at the convention. Until then, you are wasting your time.

Stop with the arrogance, it really hurts Hillary indirectly. These types of statements, only encourage, Sander supporters to sit out of the election, vote Trump, or write-in Bernie Sanders. Don't be condescending, be gracious, it's been an uphill battle from the beginning, he still has a slim chance, let us have our hope. Enjoy your confidence and celebrate without your vitriol.

A political discussion group. And this is a valid topic for discussion. I think maybe the problem is that you guys kinda converted it into a Bernie support group (by purging, censoring, etc., Hillary supporters). But that is not what the site was designed to be.

And get over yourself.

Hope that helps!

Or just check out the front page of GD-P. It's impossible you haven't noticed that the nastiness toward her and her supporters is worse than ever. Seems to ramp up when Bernie loses a bunch.

Discounting Bernie as a fad for young adults is incredibly condescending and ageist, and the media has asked why he was in the race since he announced so that is nothing new.

I mean I guess it's possible, but he will not tell the media how much cash he has on hand, and the last mandatory reporting period he showed $14 million. There is a reason he will not tell the media how much cash he has.

The reason he hasn't told how much cash he has on hand is because its not time to report it yet. No campaign posts that as a running total.

He isn't saying anything at this point beyond the quarterly mandatory reporting to the FEC (and he is in hot water with them too).

Which I read, so I know whats going on. Its pretty simple.

And every campaign has FEC issues. I used to work for the DNC and every day we had to deal with the exact same FEC crap, so you can stop trying to act like this is something unique to Bernie. The FEC report issues and campaigns correct them, its standard operating procedure.

Uh, the media would know if they simply signed up for his email updates, right? LOL!

I completely understand why that concept may be foreign to you.

How much money does he have on hand, and why won't he disclose that?