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AgadorSparticus

(7,963 posts)
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 07:22 PM Mar 2016

A Republican brokered convention to save the day?

So am I right in understanding that Trump has to get 1237 delegates in order to gain the Republican nod outright? Otherwise, the GOP can pull the rug from under that vile POS & elect anyone they want? I read something about Limbaugh (granted, it IS, Limbaugh, afterall) saying that he thinks this is the GOP's way of getting Jeb Bush back into play. That would be quite the drastic turn off events. Trump came out and, of course, talks about an all out riot if that happens. What are the chances the right will have a brokered convention? Is this why they are all suspending their campaigns instead of flat out calling it quits? Not gonna lie. It brings an unruly smile to my face to think that they will get rid of BOTH the POS and the boogereater in 1 clean sweep.

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A Republican brokered convention to save the day? (Original Post) AgadorSparticus Mar 2016 OP
The majority of H2O Man Mar 2016 #1
Oh you're right. I forgot about mitts being resuscitated. AgadorSparticus Mar 2016 #2
It was easy to forget that lead balloon. n/t PoliticAverse Mar 2016 #9
Mitt, Jebbie, Paul Ryan, Christie, Kasich BlueStreak Mar 2016 #11
I think it would be unwise for them to put mitts in when they have more AgadorSparticus Mar 2016 #13
Unless Kasich shows he can win somewhere besides his home state, BlueStreak Mar 2016 #17
Makes sense. But still a weak strategy. Nt. AgadorSparticus Mar 2016 #18
I heard today xloadiex Mar 2016 #3
I actually read that and laughed considering it took a lot of coaxing to get Ryan to even accept his AgadorSparticus Mar 2016 #6
I don't know what the rules state, but I heard several Pubs state TODAY that in a brokered napi21 Mar 2016 #4
I think that is wrong. BlueStreak Mar 2016 #12
Everyone says "suspending" rather than "quitting". Even Clinton did in 2008. PoliticAverse Mar 2016 #5
Is it wrong? Part of me is rooting for it to happen. Possibly my morbid AgadorSparticus Mar 2016 #7
I really don't see a scenario with a good outcome for Republicans at the moment... PoliticAverse Mar 2016 #8
I don't think Trump has a chance. He doesn't have the AA, Asian, or latino votes. AgadorSparticus Mar 2016 #14
Practically speaking, it seems like a bad idea for the Republican Party to ignore their voters shawn703 Mar 2016 #10
What if they start spinning now? One thing from the past is that AgadorSparticus Mar 2016 #15
Yup. Wave the crazy man around, present Kasich or Ryan as the "sane" alternative (nt) Recursion Mar 2016 #16
Kasich worries me. Ryan would have too much to lose to run. The Reps are probably too divided. kerry-is-my-prez Mar 2016 #19

H2O Man

(73,559 posts)
1. The majority of
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 07:24 PM
Mar 2016

the republican establishment advocating a brokered convention are actually hoping to put Mitt Romney on the top of their ticket.

 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
11. Mitt, Jebbie, Paul Ryan, Christie, Kasich
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 08:18 PM
Mar 2016

None of them want Trump or Cruz, that's for sure. A lot of it depends on who picks the delegates in each state. If the insiders have control over that, they will surely pick delegates that won't stick with either Trump or Cruz after the first ballot.

I would think Jeb, Christie, and Kasich would have a tough time making their case, as they were in the primaries and got flushed down the toilet. Ryan and Romney don't have that liability at least.

Of course, if Trump has 50% plus 1, it becomes a moot point. He is on a trajectory to get very close to that, but he really could come up about 50 delegates short. I doubt that Cruz will be within 300 delegates, so he won't have much of a case. The big question is assuming they arrive at the convention with Trump at 1200, Cruz at 900 and everybody else under 400, would the party really throw all of that out and put somebody like Mittens in?

I think they would, but it will be very interesting.

AgadorSparticus

(7,963 posts)
13. I think it would be unwise for them to put mitts in when they have more
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 10:46 PM
Mar 2016

Of an excuse to go with kasich since he is technically still in the running.

 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
17. Unless Kasich shows he can win somewhere besides his home state,
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 03:56 PM
Mar 2016

he will have no case to make.

I guess the idea of Rubio dropping out is to help give Kasich a chance to win something.

xloadiex

(628 posts)
3. I heard today
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 07:43 PM
Mar 2016

Maybe it was Thom Hartmann who said the repubs are discovering that the base is failing to get excited about Mitt. (ya think?)

Then the other orange man, Bohner, suddenly came out of his stupor and said he thinks Paul Ryan should do it. Ryan's spokesperson quickly declined.

napi21

(45,806 posts)
4. I don't know what the rules state, but I heard several Pubs state TODAY that in a brokered
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 07:43 PM
Mar 2016

convention, they can opt to vote for a candidate different than the front runner, but it must be someone who actually ran in the primary. I suspect that might be one reason all of the ones who quit "suspended their campaign" instead of just quitting.

I will say this, if the Trumpster gets votes just shy of the 1237 and the elites try to take the nomination from him, all hell will break lose!

Not because Trump said there will be riots, but because his supporters have been loyal all throughout the primary campaign, and they're not shrinking violets! If after they throw their fits and accomplish nothing, they'll either stay home, vote for a libertarian or vote for the Dem, but they'll NEVER let the pub candidate win.

 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
12. I think that is wrong.
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 08:19 PM
Mar 2016

The rules say they have to vote for the person they represent on the first ballot. After that, anything goes, I believe.

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
5. Everyone says "suspending" rather than "quitting". Even Clinton did in 2008.
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 07:44 PM
Mar 2016

I don't see a good outcome for Republicans from a brokered convention.

AgadorSparticus

(7,963 posts)
7. Is it wrong? Part of me is rooting for it to happen. Possibly my morbid
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 07:54 PM
Mar 2016

Curiosity on seeing just HOW the republicans will save themselves from themselves. I am also curious to see where they stand once the dust settles. And by dust, I mean ashes.

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
8. I really don't see a scenario with a good outcome for Republicans at the moment...
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 07:59 PM
Mar 2016

If Trump is the nominee I don't think he's the next President. If he goes into the convention with
a delegate lead and the party leaders deny him the nomination I think it ends ugly for them with
a very fractured base. Is there a candidate that Trump would endorse? (How much would it cost?)

AgadorSparticus

(7,963 posts)
14. I don't think Trump has a chance. He doesn't have the AA, Asian, or latino votes.
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 10:52 PM
Mar 2016

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I read somewhere that he needs to have at least 35% of latino vote to have a chance. I will be surprised if he has even TWO latino votes. Minorities hate him. And rightfully so. He put up quite a racist wall between him and the latino vote. I am cautiously confident that it will be enough to keep him from the WH.

shawn703

(2,702 posts)
10. Practically speaking, it seems like a bad idea for the Republican Party to ignore their voters
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 08:11 PM
Mar 2016

Option 1 - Keep Trump. They may be conceding the presidency, but at least you won't depress your turnout for down ballot elections. Although two terms of Dubya leads me to believe that being qualified for the job matters quite a bit less than the Republican establishment may think, and it will be an election of one polarizing figure against the other and it comes down to turnout, voter suppression, and all the other games they like to play.

Option 2 - Dump Trump. Lose thirty to forty percent of Republican voters who will turn on the Republican establishment in the form of the nominee AND down ballot races. Guaranteed losses up and down the ticket.

I don't see how they dump the guy who gets the most votes and survive as a party.

AgadorSparticus

(7,963 posts)
15. What if they start spinning now? One thing from the past is that
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 10:56 PM
Mar 2016

The general public has a rather short memory. But I agree with your assessment. It will be interesting to see how they handle it.

kerry-is-my-prez

(8,133 posts)
19. Kasich worries me. Ryan would have too much to lose to run. The Reps are probably too divided.
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 06:24 PM
Mar 2016

There would be too many pissed off Trump voters. Trump may go third ticket.

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