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amborin

(16,631 posts)
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 11:47 AM Mar 2016

Report: Clinton Changed Stance on Trade Deal After Donations to Clinton Foundation

Remember how HRC promised voters she would vote against the FTA with Colombia, but then lobbied and voted FOR it (as revealed in the emails)?

Report: Clinton changed stance on trade deal after donations to foundation

The Clinton Foundation reportedly accepted millions of dollars from a Colombian oil company head before then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton decided to support a trade deal with Colombia despite worries of human rights violations.

The report in the International Business Times comes as Clinton readies an expected run for president. She’s been dogged by questions about whether foreign donations to her foundations could have influenced her official decisions.

The report centers on donations from Frank Giustra and the oil company that he founded, Pacific Rubiales. In a Wall Street Journal story from 2008, Giustra is described as a “friend and traveling companion” of former President Clinton who donated more than $130 million to Clinton’s philanthropies. He’s also a Clinton Foundation board member and has participated in projects and benefits for the foundation.

When workers at Pacific Rubiales decided to strike in 2011, the Columbian military reportedly used force to stop the strikes and compel them to return to work, IBT reports, citing the Washington office of Latin America, a human rights group. Those accusations of human rights violations were part of the criticism of the United States-Colombia Free Trade Promotion Agreement, which was passed by Congress later that year. Pacific Rubiales has repeatedly denied charges that it infringed on workers’ rights.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/238313-clinton-changed-stance-on-trade-deal-after-donations-to


here's more from an older OP:

Hillary DoubleCrossed Voters--Promised Oppose Colombia Trade Agt, Lobbd for it:Goldman Sachs involved
On the eve of South Carolina’s Democratic presidential primary, the U.S. State Department released 1,500 pages of Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton’s emails from her tenure as secretary of state. Included in the 881 emails published Friday night are messages highlighting Clinton lobbying for a controversial Colombian trade deal she previously pledged to oppose.

During her 2008 presidential run, Clinton said she opposed the deal because “I am very concerned about the history of violence against trade unionists in Colombia.” She later declared, “I oppose the deal. I have spoken out against the deal, I will vote against the deal, and I will do everything I can to urge the Congress to reject the Colombia Free Trade Agreement.”

But newly released emails show that as secretary of state, Clinton was personally lobbying Democratic members of Congress to support the deal, even promising one senior lawmaker that the deal would extend labor protections to Colombian workers that would be as good or better than those enjoyed by many workers in the United States.

One of the 2011 emails from Clinton to U.S. Trade Representative Michael Froman and Clinton aide Robert Hormats has a subject line “Sandy Levin” — a reference to the Democratic congressman who serves on the House Ways and Means Committee, which oversees U.S. trade policy.

In the email detailing her call with Levin, she said the Michigan lawmaker “appreciates the changes that have been made, the national security arguments and Santos's reforms” -- the latter presumably a reference to Colombian President Juan Manuel Santos. She concludes the message about the call with Levin by saying, “I told him that at the rate we were going, Columbian workers were going to end up w the same or better rights than workers in Wisconsin and Indiana and, maybe even, Michigan.”

Froman — a former Citigroup executive who as trade representative was lobbying for passage of the deal — responded by thanking Clinton for her "help and support.” Hormats, a former vice chairman of Goldman Sachs who subsequently was hired by Clinton at the State Department, later chimed in, telling her “terrific job” and “GREAT line on Columbian workers!!!!!”

http://www.ibtimes.com/hillary-clinton-pushes-colombia-free-trade-agreement-latest-email-dump-2326068


http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511456494
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Report: Clinton Changed Stance on Trade Deal After Donations to Clinton Foundation (Original Post) amborin Mar 2016 OP
Um, isn't that her usual way of doing business? n/t djean111 Mar 2016 #1
For those that can be bought, it is. Loudestlib Mar 2016 #2
Yep, auctioning her principles to the highest bidder. n/t arcane1 Mar 2016 #5
repeated examples of this amborin Mar 2016 #8
Hillary said that she got on board with the Iraq war NWCorona Mar 2016 #17
Yes Indeed... AGREED! CorporatistNation Mar 2016 #68
Right there on national tv too! I do not recall a single pundit requesting further explanation for 2banon Apr 2016 #80
It is exactly her usual way of doing business. I don't get the denial on the part of 2banon Apr 2016 #77
k&r tk2kewl Mar 2016 #3
K N R-ed Faux pas Mar 2016 #4
thanks! amborin Mar 2016 #7
The Clinton Family motto: Ka-Ching nt nichomachus Mar 2016 #6
You nailed it! Avalon Sparks Mar 2016 #24
I think her weathervane rudder publicly tends to turn towards Jarqui Mar 2016 #36
It's like a nightmare. vintx Mar 2016 #9
yes amborin Mar 2016 #19
par for the course farleftlib Mar 2016 #10
For sale to the highest bidder. jwirr Mar 2016 #11
the evidence suggests this; no other credible interpretation amborin Mar 2016 #13
+1 n/t bobthedrummer Mar 2016 #22
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Mar 2016 #12
But money does not change UglyGreed Mar 2016 #14
Blood money. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #15
You say that like it's a bad thing Fumesucker Mar 2016 #16
everything is for sale dana_b Mar 2016 #18
$ bobthedrummer Mar 2016 #20
Dirty and disgraceful... AzDar Mar 2016 #21
The lemmings don't care... Avalon Sparks Mar 2016 #23
Why so nasty? Beaverhausen Mar 2016 #25
Just calls it as I see it... Avalon Sparks Mar 2016 #27
And there are name-calling bullies everywhere Beaverhausen Mar 2016 #32
That is exactly WHY some of her supporters support her DebbieCDC Mar 2016 #28
Post removed Post removed Mar 2016 #31
This is totally off-topic Bettie Mar 2016 #62
I thought about that too... Avalon Sparks Mar 2016 #63
Reaching, much? NastyRiffraff Mar 2016 #69
There are many reasons people vote for the candidate of their choice Beaverhausen Mar 2016 #33
Real simple... Avalon Sparks Mar 2016 #38
The post referred to Hillary as a "v-Jay". What you said IS NOT what was stated. still_one Mar 2016 #37
Kindly don't put words in my mouth... Avalon Sparks Mar 2016 #40
and that is what you SHOUJLD HAVE SAID, but you didn't. YOU KNEW EXACTLY what you were doing still_one Mar 2016 #42
Your attempts to bring me to heel... Avalon Sparks Mar 2016 #43
You should have the decency to self delete fun n serious Mar 2016 #51
Sooo... kjones Mar 2016 #56
I'm a "Her" completely against "Her" because of "their" Policies 2banon Apr 2016 #82
"Under some misguided notion, that Elected Women would fundamentally change the world" kjones Apr 2016 #85
WTF? 2banon Apr 2016 #88
I assume that means you don't have a real response. kjones Apr 2016 #92
You can assume I don't respond to non-sequiturs, 2banon Apr 2016 #93
ugh... kjones Apr 2016 #94
Susan Sarandon, is that you?!? Metric System Mar 2016 #57
Let me get this straight. athena Mar 2016 #65
I'm not going to alert DemonGoddess Mar 2016 #67
they think it's ok amborin Apr 2016 #95
apparently not amborin Apr 2016 #97
You notice how these threads with facts are eerily silent of Hillarian supporters... nt GeorgiaPeanuts Mar 2016 #26
Yes, because they got nothing to come back with... Avalon Sparks Mar 2016 #29
You should be insulted. You called Hillary a "v-jay". You are an embaressment to those Sanders still_one Mar 2016 #39
Kindly don't put words in my mouth. Avalon Sparks Mar 2016 #41
No, YOU DID IT TO YOURSELF. still_one Mar 2016 #44
An English lesson? Avalon Sparks Mar 2016 #45
Its fun to call Hillary a "v-jay" isn't it. Now you want to talk issues, after that still_one Mar 2016 #46
I already clarified the comment... Avalon Sparks Mar 2016 #47
You didn't clarify shit. You left the orignal post as is. still_one Mar 2016 #50
It's corrected... Avalon Sparks Mar 2016 #61
BTW..When I want to call Hillary by a name, I'll always use the most accurate... Avalon Sparks Mar 2016 #49
It's because it's not worth responding to people who just don't want a strong woman president. JudyM Mar 2016 #34
no, that isn't it. It is because they referred to Hillary as a "v-jay" still_one Mar 2016 #48
Excuse me while I thereismore Mar 2016 #55
You're excused... Avalon Sparks Mar 2016 #58
Yes I noticed that.... sheshe2 Mar 2016 #66
Just a horrible sell out FreakinDJ Mar 2016 #30
ALWAYS follow the money. n/t Skwmom Mar 2016 #35
yes amborin Apr 2016 #96
In related news: Water found to be wet. n/t Motown_Johnny Mar 2016 #52
The whole country is going to be for sale if she's elected TexasMommaWithAHat Mar 2016 #53
+1000 amborin Apr 2016 #75
Kick. Recommend. grntuscarora Mar 2016 #54
Don't forget that we sold weapons to TheFarseer Mar 2016 #59
yes, many, many examples of this behavior amborin Apr 2016 #73
How much more of this do we have to see monicaangela Mar 2016 #60
Forget the speech transcripts BernieforPres2016 Mar 2016 #64
yes, it reeks, and it's constantly repeated amborin Mar 2016 #71
Bingo! n/t 2banon Apr 2016 #78
Quid pro dough marmar Mar 2016 #70
How Secretary of State Hillary Clinton cared for Democratic donors bobthedrummer Mar 2016 #72
Kick azmom Apr 2016 #74
reason #5,697 why HRC is untrustworthy amborin Apr 2016 #76
I wonder if Sandy Levin is related to Senator Carl Levin? n/t 2banon Apr 2016 #79
He's Carl's older brother. nt kristopher Apr 2016 #81
yep, that explains a few things. 2banon Apr 2016 #83
sure does amborin Apr 2016 #86
Just another coincidence in a long line of coincidences (but that doesn't make them any less Skwmom Apr 2016 #84
Shady lady. AzDar Apr 2016 #87
So Chinas rise a an economic superpower has nothing to do with it ? lol factfinder_77 Apr 2016 #89
she told voters she opposed it, then secretly lobbied & voted FOR it, with republicans; untrustworth amborin Apr 2016 #90
K and R panader0 Apr 2016 #91

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
17. Hillary said that she got on board with the Iraq war
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 01:17 PM
Mar 2016

When Bush promised money for NY for her support so you're probably right.

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
80. Right there on national tv too! I do not recall a single pundit requesting further explanation for
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 09:17 AM
Apr 2016

the sake of clarity.. it's like it just "whooshed" right by them cuz, it's nothing surprising to them, that's how decisions are made when deciding to go ahead and invade another country based on lies is done, after all! Everyday.

Cuz, It's what we do!

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
77. It is exactly her usual way of doing business. I don't get the denial on the part of
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 09:09 AM
Apr 2016

her unpaid supporters. Don't even need "clear eyes" to recognize deception and corruption when it's plain to see, hell it's obvious even through Rose tinted glasses for heavens sake, with a uniquely long record of it!



Jarqui

(10,128 posts)
36. I think her weathervane rudder publicly tends to turn towards
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 05:34 PM
Mar 2016

what will get the most votes around this time

At elite fundraising gatherings or Goldman Sachs speeches, the transcripts for what they work out there stay behind closed doors.

 

farleftlib

(2,125 posts)
10. par for the course
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 07:39 PM
Mar 2016

Say one thing, do the opposite - which is always the wrong thing.

This is what we're supposed to vote for?

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
16. You say that like it's a bad thing
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 01:13 PM
Mar 2016

On the new doubleplus good DU double crossing the voters and selling your influence to shady characters is a sign of strength and determination so kindly get with the program.

We have always been at war with Eastrumpania.



Avalon Sparks

(2,566 posts)
23. The lemmings don't care...
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 03:11 PM
Mar 2016

Last edited Tue Mar 29, 2016, 06:39 PM - Edit history (2)

These facts are over their heads. Some are just voting because she has a v-Jay.

Some people here claimed I called Hillary a v-Jay, so I edited the post for clarification.

And let me be clear, when if I wanted to refer to Hillary with the most accurate term, it would definitely be Grifter. Like this:

Some are just voting for the Grifter because she has a v-Jay.

Funny how they didn't try to prove my first sentence wrong... Not a peep from any of them on why they don't care about Free Trade.





Beaverhausen

(24,470 posts)
25. Why so nasty?
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 05:10 PM
Mar 2016

Seriously? Why can't you just disagree with someone without calling names and accusing them of something of which you have absolutely no knowledge?

Can't you just debate the issues?

Avalon Sparks

(2,566 posts)
27. Just calls it as I see it...
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 05:14 PM
Mar 2016

Didn't refer to anyone in particular.

There are lemmings every where in this country, and it's not necessary meant as an insult.
Some people just follow along and they're fine with that.

DebbieCDC

(2,543 posts)
28. That is exactly WHY some of her supporters support her
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 05:14 PM
Mar 2016

because of her gender. I saw it repeatedly in my WA caucus on Saturday. A woman who agreed with Bernie on EVERY SINGLE ISSUE flat out said she's supporting HRC because she's a woman. There's a lot here re HRC to be offended about, but a slang term for female genitalia ISN'T one of them.

Response to DebbieCDC (Reply #28)

Bettie

(16,118 posts)
62. This is totally off-topic
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 06:41 PM
Mar 2016

but why do we call it a "pantsuit" when a woman is wearing it but just a "suit" when a man is?

With regard to your actual point, I wouldn't go so far as Cheney, but she's definitely far to the right of where I'd like to see our party's nominee.

Avalon Sparks

(2,566 posts)
63. I thought about that too...
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 06:46 PM
Mar 2016

I think there's a difference in the cut of a women's pantsuit vs a women's suit, and it's a coordinated look, while a women's suit is cut more sharply and meant to be worn together.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
69. Reaching, much?
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 12:12 PM
Mar 2016

Ye gods. That makes absolutely no sense. Comparing a women's suit with...a women's suit? Jeez.

Beaverhausen

(24,470 posts)
33. There are many reasons people vote for the candidate of their choice
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 05:20 PM
Mar 2016

Why is one issue OK but not another? You don't get to decide that for other people.

Avalon Sparks

(2,566 posts)
38. Real simple...
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 05:41 PM
Mar 2016

A candidate's gender is NOT an "issue"

Now, do have any comments to add on why support Free Trade agreements? That's the topic of this thread. Or are they of no relevance to you, and if so why not?



still_one

(92,321 posts)
37. The post referred to Hillary as a "v-Jay". What you said IS NOT what was stated.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 05:39 PM
Mar 2016

"Some are just voting for the v-Jay."

There was a discussion on DU a few months back where they referred to Hillary with the "c word", and some seemed not to have a problem with that also, because that is exactly what the poster is calling Hillary

This not only does a disservice to Bernie and those who support him, but it also shows a very ugly face about DU




Avalon Sparks

(2,566 posts)
40. Kindly don't put words in my mouth...
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 05:45 PM
Mar 2016

I'll clarify my comments if they are confusing.

"Some are just voting for Hillary because she is a woman"

Clear enough? Good!

Now do you have anything to add on the topic of the thread. Please tell us why you support Free Trade agreements.

still_one

(92,321 posts)
42. and that is what you SHOUJLD HAVE SAID, but you didn't. YOU KNEW EXACTLY what you were doing
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 05:46 PM
Mar 2016

and you are not fooling anyone. Been hibernating a long time haven't ya

" Some are just voting for the v-Jay."

what does that mean?

Translations:

"Some are just voting for the vagina"

What does that mean?

Hillary isn't a person, she is a "v*"



Avalon Sparks

(2,566 posts)
43. Your attempts to bring me to heel...
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 05:50 PM
Mar 2016

Are tiresome.

Again, anything to add about why you support free trade agreements?

 

fun n serious

(4,451 posts)
51. You should have the decency to self delete
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 06:15 PM
Mar 2016

This is a very offensive remark. I am no longer surprised tho. I expect it.

kjones

(1,053 posts)
56. Sooo...
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 06:19 PM
Mar 2016

does that mean we're good to say "Some Sanders voters are just
voting with their (trying to think of an equally juvenile, semi-innocuous
euphemism) wieners?"

I mean, for every person out there voting for her because she's
a "her"...there's one voting against her because she's a "her."
In the grand scheme of things, the numbers of either are pretty
insignificant, I'm willing to bet.

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
82. I'm a "Her" completely against "Her" because of "their" Policies
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 09:37 AM
Apr 2016

Deeply Rooted in Neo Conservatism, Deceit and Corruption.

All these things are Gender Neutral.

I'm embarrassed to admit, there was a time in my life not long ago, before the Iraq War, when I pined for a Woman as POTUS, as Senate and Congressional leaders, as a majority on SCOTUS, Federal Reserve, as Heads of State everywhere. Under some misguided notion, that Elected Women would fundamentally change the world, bring about peace, prosperity, justice and equality to all. I even briefly thought of Hillary Clinton as the perfect candidate even felt sorry for her being married to Bill has brought her. Figured after she ran for Senate she'd part company.

LOL! OMG! What the past 2 decades have revealed!

kjones

(1,053 posts)
85. "Under some misguided notion, that Elected Women would fundamentally change the world"
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 11:44 AM
Apr 2016

Cool, I'm glad you can admit that at one time, you based your election opinions on simplistic
reasoning. We were all younger once.

...But don't suppose to tell us whether or not our opinions are based on equally simplistic
reasons.

I'm glad you can see that "voting with their wieners" is an idiotic basis for an attack,
as it should be. So is "voting with their v-jays," so I hope you'll join us in mocking
and ridiculing that type of talk regardless of where it comes from.

If not, that indignation you present above comes off as rather disingenuous.

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
93. You can assume I don't respond to non-sequiturs,
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 12:54 AM
Apr 2016

I respond to content which has some reasonable relationship to the topic at hand even, whether or not I agree or disagree.

Your reply to mine, did not even meet the basic requirements of logic and reason.

athena

(4,187 posts)
65. Let me get this straight.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 08:23 PM
Mar 2016

If you're a man voting for the man, you're not voting with your reproductive organ, but if you're a woman voting for a woman you're voting with your reproductive organ?

Or let me state it another way: if you're a man voting for the man, you're not reduced to your reproductive parts, but if you're a woman voting for the woman you are?

And people say they don't see what people complain about when they complain about the sexism among Bernie's followers.

DemonGoddess

(4,640 posts)
67. I'm not going to alert
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 11:59 PM
Mar 2016

because I feel the juries are stacked, and certainly NOT fair and impartial. So I expect this stupidity will stay.

What you said is vile. Because I am a woman, doesn't mean I vote with my woman PARTS. That's as bad as me telling a man that he's voting with his "meat and 2 veg". I would never do that.

I'm not even dignifying the rest of your garbage post with a reasoned response. It would be lost on you.

Avalon Sparks

(2,566 posts)
29. Yes, because they got nothing to come back with...
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 05:17 PM
Mar 2016

Although one took the time to insult me personally...lol

still_one

(92,321 posts)
39. You should be insulted. You called Hillary a "v-jay". You are an embaressment to those Sanders
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 05:43 PM
Mar 2016

supporters who would NEVER refer to a woman in those terms.

You should take your gutter slamming misogyny to somewhere else where it is appreciated




Avalon Sparks

(2,566 posts)
41. Kindly don't put words in my mouth.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 05:46 PM
Mar 2016

Your interpretation skills could use some polishing...

Anything to share about why you support free trade agreements?

still_one

(92,321 posts)
44. No, YOU DID IT TO YOURSELF.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 05:50 PM
Mar 2016

and you are not fooling anyone.

YOUR QUOTE:
" Some are just voting for the v-Jay."



WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?

Translations:

"Some are just voting for the vagina"

What does that mean?

Hillary isn't a person, she is a "v*"

still_one

(92,321 posts)
46. Its fun to call Hillary a "v-jay" isn't it. Now you want to talk issues, after that
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 05:55 PM
Mar 2016

There are plenty of Sanders supporters I can have discussions with, you are not one of them

still_one

(92,321 posts)
48. no, that isn't it. It is because they referred to Hillary as a "v-jay"
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 06:02 PM
Mar 2016

QUOTE:
" Some are just voting for the v-Jay."



WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?

Translations:

"Some are just voting for the vagina"

What does that mean?

Hillary isn't a person, she is a "v*"



sheshe2

(83,842 posts)
66. Yes I noticed that....
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 10:19 PM
Mar 2016

You want to know why? We left the board and hardly comment anymore. When we do we get hides. Ya'll got your wish.

Good job.

TexasMommaWithAHat

(3,212 posts)
53. The whole country is going to be for sale if she's elected
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 06:16 PM
Mar 2016

I didn't think anyone could out do Cheney and Company, but I'm not sure, now...

This country needs SANDERS!

TheFarseer

(9,323 posts)
59. Don't forget that we sold weapons to
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 06:34 PM
Mar 2016

Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Algeria and Israel - cleared by Hillary - after donations to the Clinton Foundation. Probably more, but that's what I could find quickly. Also don't forget that donations from GE and Boeing probably had something to do with the sales also.

monicaangela

(1,508 posts)
60. How much more of this do we have to see
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 06:38 PM
Mar 2016

before the populace awakens and decides HRC should be nowhere near the White House or the Presidency of this country. Anybody that sells their influence should not even be considered for the job. It is about time we as a nation stopped accepting the least of two evils and look for someone who is going to at least try to do things that will benefit the nation.

 

bobthedrummer

(26,083 posts)
72. How Secretary of State Hillary Clinton cared for Democratic donors
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 04:26 PM
Mar 2016

As top diplomat, Clinton found time to nurture supporters like Soros and Spielberg (Issac Arnsdorf January 6, 2016 Politico)
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/clinton-emails-fundraising-soros-spielberg-216535

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
84. Just another coincidence in a long line of coincidences (but that doesn't make them any less
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 11:00 AM
Apr 2016

coincidental).
 

factfinder_77

(841 posts)
89. So Chinas rise a an economic superpower has nothing to do with it ? lol
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 05:49 PM
Apr 2016

In 2010 Colombia’s exports to China grew 224 percent in one year!

Colombia has a very ambitious trade agenda. It has initiated FTA negotiations with South Korea and Panama and has plans to start talking to Japan and Turkey. They’ve also been looking at joining Mercosur [Southern Common Market], and their free trade agreement with Canada went into force in 2010.

And they now have a free trade agrement With China

https://aric.adb.org/fta/peoples-republic-of-china-colombia-free-trade-agreement





amborin

(16,631 posts)
90. she told voters she opposed it, then secretly lobbied & voted FOR it, with republicans; untrustworth
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 07:19 PM
Apr 2016

untrustworthy and dishonest; backstabbing, really, too.

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