2016 Postmortem
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I live in Georgia where Romney will win strongly. Since presidential elections are won based on electoral votes I feel like my vote doesn't count. Could this be an election where the candidate winning the popular vote doesn't win the electoral vote? Yet there may be no way of knowing this if voters in heavily red states feel like their vote doesn't count and don't vote. Can someone talk me down & tell me what history says about this?
LovePeacock
(225 posts)Someday it might, though. My vote didn't matter until just recently (I live in shit-kicker VA that always went red until President Obama). So long story short: vote, even though it doesn't matter.
MSMITH33156
(879 posts)in the sense that you won't impact who is president. However, your vote does count in the President's mandate after he wins. That is huge.
courseofhistory
(801 posts)bemildred
(90,061 posts)I live in California, and it makes no difference who I vote for for President, and it's because of the anti-democratic provisions of the Electoral College.
hamsterjill
(15,220 posts)I will still be there next Monday when early voting begins to proudly vote for President Obama. I remind myself many times each day that just because the idiots around me don't get it....I do. I truly believe that Romney's election would take this country back more than a 100 years in our progress.
The alternative (i.e., not voting) is simply unthinkable to me. I remember a time when Texas was blue, and I hope to live long enough to see it be blue again.
txdemsftw
(461 posts)and I surely wish things were different. It just doesn't seem fair or right to me that my vote doesn't count to THEM, but it does for me.
Maeve
(42,282 posts)Your vote still counts--not only in the size of the mandate the president will have but also in the other races.
Not voting is NOT an option--it is quitting, it's abdicating, it's wimping out., throwing in the towel before the fight. That's no way to live.
ncgrits
(916 posts)It's a process and it starts with voting. And when we vote for Obama we all put ourselves on the right side of history.
sofa king
(10,857 posts)This is a bit harsh, but I'll say it anyway. The following is true in American politics most of the time:
* A vote for the strongest second-place party in an election is a vote in opposition to the winning candidate.
* Only the winner benefits from non-participation.
* A vote for a weak third party (unless there is a specific short-term objective) only benefits the winner.
I'm pretty sure that those three rules can be seen in virtually every general election (except, of course, George W. Bush's) going back to the Voting Rights Act.
So, as a Georgian, you have a responsibility to vote in opposition to Mitt Romney and his fellow goons, by voting all-Democratic. You might not get to win the election for President Obama, but you can sure as hell remind your fellow Georgians that some of you still retain your famous Georgian honor.
You must voice your disapproval, for you will be the snowball around which the avalanche of common sense forms, some damned day FSMonapogostickwhythefuckcan'ttheylearn?!?!
Opposition to a candidate is a measurable force to which Members of Congress pay very close attention. What they want is support or indifference, not opposition. President Obama may get elected whether you voted for him or not, but he's not going to get much done if he doesn't have a Congress that works with him.
Asshole Tea Party Republicans in Congress have gone out of their way to fuck this country, stall recovery, and even raise your taxes. They exist in areas where Democratic voters are suppressed, shouted down, intimidated, gerrymandered, and hopeless. But you can still tell at least one of those Members up for reelection this year that you're coming for his or her ass, by voting Democratic.
You might not get them this time, but they'll know you're there, and the smart ones will start playing ball (which, admittedly, isn't many of them).
Your vote also influences the donors, who are considerably smarter. Republican donors looking for an easy rube to buy might look at the opposition figures of your Congressman and decide the guy isn't worth their trouble. Democratic donors looking at the opposition figures might see an emerging opportunity.
That is a vote that pulls for our President, whether he wins your state's electors or not.
RamblingRose
(1,038 posts)It seems ridiculous in this day & age.
whttevrr
(2,345 posts)What people say in polls, public, and to their acquaintances, is not what they say in the voting booth. It is indeed possible to say something with your vote in any race. If there is enough opposition votes it may just staunch the after race rhetoric.
Likewise, even in a state where you are voting with the majority it still represents a metric to be measured in the strength of the overall vote.
It is imperative that everyone votes. It may not change the outcome on the day but it could teach others that it is important to make your voice heard. It gives hope to those who vote in later races. it makes a difference.
Vote, vote, vote!
It really is that important!
TexasCPA
(527 posts)My area is so red we don't even have Democrats on the ballot in most the local races. I will no vote as opposed to voting for a Republican in the unopposed races.