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Related: About this forumRomney said he's not going to allow the 'wealthy' top 5% (AGI $159,619 in 2010) to have a tax cut
Romney apparently just 'pulled this out of his ass' in Tuesday night's debate. Where are households with AGI of $159,000 considered 'wealthy?' In Mitt Romney's world--a world where his tax plan would keep his own tax rate obscenely low--the capital gains rate of 15%--and no 'death taxes' so he can pass along his immense wealth untaxed. Imagine the uproar from the GOP if President Obama had declared during the debate his proposed return to the Clinton era tax rates would now apply to the top 5%--rather than the top 2%--$250,000. It seems as if Romney will indeed say anything to win, and apparently without giving much thought to what he's actually proposing.
MR. ROMNEY: (Chuckles.) Youre absolutely right. You heard what I said about my tax plan. The top 5 percent will continue to pay 60 percent, as they do today. Im not looking to cut taxes for wealthy people. I am looking to cut taxes for middle-income people.
~MS. CROWLEY: Governor, let me ask the president something about what you just said. The governor says that he is not going to allow the top 5 percent I believe is what he said to have a tax cut, that it will all even out, that what he wants to do is give that tax cut to the middle class. Settled?
PRESIDENT OBAMA: No, its not settled. (Chuckles.) Look, the cost of lowering rates for everybody across the board 20 percent, along with what he also wants to do in terms of eliminating the estate tax, along what he wants to do in terms of corporates changes in the tax code it costs about $5 trillion. Governor Romney then also wants to spend $2 trillion on additional military programs, even though the militarys not asking for them. Thats $7 trillion. He also wants to continue the Bush tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans. Thats another trillion dollars. Thats $8 trillion.
Now, what he says is hes going to make sure that this doesnt add to the deficit, and hes going to cut middle-class taxes. But when hes asked, how are you going to do it, which deductions, which loopholes are you going to close, he cant tell you. The the fact that he only has to pay 14 percent on his taxes when a lot of you are paying much higher you know, hes already taken that off the board. Capital gains are going to continue to be at a low rate, so we were not going to get money that way. We havent heard from the governor any specifics, beyond Big Bird and eliminating funding for Planned Parenthood, in terms of how he pays for that.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/16/us/politics/transcript-of-the-second-presidential-debate-in-hempstead-ny.html?pagewanted=all
MR. ROMNEY: (Chuckles.) Youre absolutely right. You heard what I said about my tax plan. The top 5 percent will continue to pay 60 percent, as they do today. Im not looking to cut taxes for wealthy people. I am looking to cut taxes for middle-income people.
~MS. CROWLEY: Governor, let me ask the president something about what you just said. The governor says that he is not going to allow the top 5 percent I believe is what he said to have a tax cut, that it will all even out, that what he wants to do is give that tax cut to the middle class. Settled?
PRESIDENT OBAMA: No, its not settled. (Chuckles.) Look, the cost of lowering rates for everybody across the board 20 percent, along with what he also wants to do in terms of eliminating the estate tax, along what he wants to do in terms of corporates changes in the tax code it costs about $5 trillion. Governor Romney then also wants to spend $2 trillion on additional military programs, even though the militarys not asking for them. Thats $7 trillion. He also wants to continue the Bush tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans. Thats another trillion dollars. Thats $8 trillion.
Now, what he says is hes going to make sure that this doesnt add to the deficit, and hes going to cut middle-class taxes. But when hes asked, how are you going to do it, which deductions, which loopholes are you going to close, he cant tell you. The the fact that he only has to pay 14 percent on his taxes when a lot of you are paying much higher you know, hes already taken that off the board. Capital gains are going to continue to be at a low rate, so we were not going to get money that way. We havent heard from the governor any specifics, beyond Big Bird and eliminating funding for Planned Parenthood, in terms of how he pays for that.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/16/us/politics/transcript-of-the-second-presidential-debate-in-hempstead-ny.html?pagewanted=all
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Romney said he's not going to allow the 'wealthy' top 5% (AGI $159,619 in 2010) to have a tax cut (Original Post)
flpoljunkie
Oct 2012
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bornskeptic
(1,330 posts)1. Watch out for the Republican weasel-words!
Millions of people heard what Romney said and thught he said he didn't plan to cut taxes on the top 5%. That's what they were meant to think, but it's not what he said. He said the top 5% would keep paying the same 60% of total taxes that they pay now. If taxes are cut for the bottom 95% and not for the top 5%, then total tax collection goes down and the amount the top 5% is paying is a larger percentage of the total collection. For the top 5% to keep paying the same 60% of the tax bill, their taxes have to be cut by the same percentage that the taxes of the bottom 95% are cut.