2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWhen should putting a woman and a Clinton as president be more important than...
Averting disastrous trade bills like TPP and TISA that basically give big corporations veto power over local and federal governments?
Putting a president that will able to deal with the upcoming automation revolution in a way where the American people will benefit, rather than be literally impoverished in an Elysium style way.
Putting a president that will take climate change seriously?
Putting a president that will not feel like antagonizing Russia and flirting with WWIII?
LexVegas
(6,060 posts)grasswire
(50,130 posts)Loudestlib
(980 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)We have an uphill battle but eventually we will defeat the Rich and Super-Rich and their minions.
We support the middle and working classes and those living in poverty. Clinton and her minions support the Wealthy and filthy Wealthy. There are always those that can ignore those among us struggling and bow before Wealth.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Agschmid
(28,749 posts)AZ Progressive
(3,411 posts)One should know here who is the one living in a bubble...
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)AZ Progressive
(3,411 posts)Nice try
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)If so that's doubleplus good.
WhiteTara
(29,705 posts)He can't win the general if he doesn't win the primary.
grasswire
(50,130 posts)Simply too flawed to represent Democrats.
(I think Al Gore fits your job description above. Sadly.)
oldandhappy
(6,719 posts)Walk away
(9,494 posts)Meanwhile the largest news paper in Arizona just gave Hillary a resounding endorsement!
panader0
(25,816 posts)Walk away
(9,494 posts)The Arizona REPUBLIC (not republican) is an excellent endorsement.
Just because the Arizona Republic knows that Trump, Cruz and Sanders would all be disastrous Presidents is no reason to discount them. Most of the Democratic party feels the same way.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)classes to drop while her friends reap huge profits. How can you turn your backs on those struggling among us? Don't bother, I know the answer. Worshiping at the idol of greed and wealth is more important.
agracie
(950 posts)silvershadow
(10,336 posts)HassleCat
(6,409 posts)Sanders is close to the end of the road. Clinton took the other fork, and stayed on the path well traveled, the path familiar to most, the path we have trod for 30 years now. We came close this time, but a little inertia in some places, along with a little momentum in other places, and we bogged down in the mud. I hope the Clinton supporters lose the hubris, because it will not serve us well against The Donald. He's insane, but he's clever, and he will run at Hillary from all sorts of unexpected places.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)I hope you will understand that supporting the 1% won't help the poor or those struggling among us.
It's an uphill struggle but we will fight the Big Money you so devoutly revere until the end one way or the other.
I hope you don't think the 1% care about you.
Hekate
(90,674 posts)For all the moaning about how HRC doesn't generate "excitement," let it be pointed out that her voters show up. She has more votes tallied than Sanders. Forget the superdelegates ( which he somehow thinks he can persuade away from her). She has more VOTES. More than Sanders, more than Trump.
MineralMan
(146,288 posts)Hillary currently has 2.7 million more popular votes and well over 300 more pledged delegates than Bernie. That's a fact. That is what says something.
If you want Sanders to be the nominee, work to get him more votes. Its that simple.
RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)Up to this point 1 million more people are ignoring the facts and lazily voting for all the wrong reasons.
It's scary so many are not quite up to speed.
AZ Progressive
(3,411 posts)as well as the Trump circus for taking attention away from the Democratic Party race.
RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)And the fact Bernie is so new to everyone and most are too lazy to find out what Bernie is all about and what Clinton's true story is.
brooklynite
(94,520 posts)You know, I can't imagine why your campaign strategy isn't working better.
AZ Progressive
(3,411 posts)But as big corporations show, just because you have an established brand doesn't mean that you aren't very corrupt.
brooklynite
(94,520 posts)I really have to applaud you on your creative messaging.
AZ Progressive
(3,411 posts)Only the young people and people in the progressive world.
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)... cause that's worked before yah know.
amborin
(16,631 posts)brooklynite
(94,520 posts)SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)substantial post? Naw, that's not what you are here for is it?
840high
(17,196 posts)a substantial thought.
AZ Progressive
(3,411 posts)mythology
(9,527 posts)than listening to the will of the voters? Clinton is ahead on delegates. She's ahead on the popular vote. And yet you want Sanders to be handed the nomination since he isn't going to win it.
Some people apparently don't like democracy.
Oh and nice lie to say that people are voting for her based on her gender and the name. Because all of her voters are apparently too stupid to look past either of those. But I suppose it's easier for to make things up rather than look into what the polls say about why she's winning.