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AZ Progressive

(3,411 posts)
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 06:47 PM Mar 2016

When should putting a woman and a Clinton as president be more important than...

Averting disastrous trade bills like TPP and TISA that basically give big corporations veto power over local and federal governments?

Putting a president that will able to deal with the upcoming automation revolution in a way where the American people will benefit, rather than be literally impoverished in an Elysium style way.

Putting a president that will take climate change seriously?

Putting a president that will not feel like antagonizing Russia and flirting with WWIII?

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When should putting a woman and a Clinton as president be more important than... (Original Post) AZ Progressive Mar 2016 OP
Death throes of a dying campaign. nt LexVegas Mar 2016 #1
beginning to sound like spam. nt grasswire Mar 2016 #5
Never answers, just deflection. Loudestlib Mar 2016 #14
We are fighting the domination of Big Money. Big Money that you appear to revere. rhett o rick Mar 2016 #25
Yes. Just sad. hrmjustin Mar 2016 #27
Unrec. Agschmid Mar 2016 #2
You unrec'd over legitimate concerns about Hillary AZ Progressive Mar 2016 #17
You referenced a fictional movie... And call that legitimate concerns? Agschmid Mar 2016 #20
People reference 1984 often, and it is a fictional story AZ Progressive Mar 2016 #21
Is that doublethink? Agschmid Mar 2016 #31
your primary is coming up. Get Bernie some votes WhiteTara Mar 2016 #3
so many reasons to seek an alternative grasswire Mar 2016 #4
putting in a president who cares for truth oldandhappy Mar 2016 #6
This should get tons of votes for Bernie! Walk away Mar 2016 #7
The Arizona Republican panader0 Mar 2016 #9
Gee! I thought Bernie was so proud of his Republican support!!! Walk away Mar 2016 #11
The rich and super-rich love their Clinton. Expect the standard of living for the lower rhett o rick Mar 2016 #30
When ? NEVER. agracie Mar 2016 #8
never. nt silvershadow Mar 2016 #10
Always, I guess. HassleCat Mar 2016 #12
Here ... they just drove this in for you. JoePhilly Mar 2016 #13
Gloat while you can. When the poverty rates climb along with Goldman-Sachs profits rhett o rick Mar 2016 #32
When the woman in question is the best-qualified in every respect. And Hillary is. Hekate Mar 2016 #15
Who said it was? MineralMan Mar 2016 #16
That's what bothers me RobertEarl Mar 2016 #18
You can thank the strategically placed debates for that AZ Progressive Mar 2016 #19
And the media RobertEarl Mar 2016 #29
Hillary Clinton voters are "lazy"? brooklynite Mar 2016 #24
Bernie is a startup and Hillary is a 25 year established brand AZ Progressive Mar 2016 #26
A member of Congress for 25 years is a "start up"? brooklynite Mar 2016 #34
Most voters didn't know about Bernie until this election season AZ Progressive Mar 2016 #35
Yeap and a trillion people outside of McConnells window would change his mind on legislation uponit7771 Mar 2016 #40
Never; and voting for someone based on sex is sexist; based on race, racist; etc. amborin Mar 2016 #22
Who is trying to put "a Clinton" in the White House? brooklynite Mar 2016 #23
1172 to 846...nt SidDithers Mar 2016 #28
Gloating is so typical. You are an exceptional person Sid. Have you ever written a rhett o rick Mar 2016 #33
Aww shucks - he would if he had 840high Mar 2016 #39
This thread is a real showcase of the integrity of Hillary supporters AZ Progressive Mar 2016 #36
When should putting the guy who isn't leading in the race be more important mythology Mar 2016 #37
Should gay people have accepted Prop 8 in California? AZ Progressive Mar 2016 #38
 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
25. We are fighting the domination of Big Money. Big Money that you appear to revere.
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 08:53 PM
Mar 2016

We have an uphill battle but eventually we will defeat the Rich and Super-Rich and their minions.

We support the middle and working classes and those living in poverty. Clinton and her minions support the Wealthy and filthy Wealthy. There are always those that can ignore those among us struggling and bow before Wealth.

AZ Progressive

(3,411 posts)
17. You unrec'd over legitimate concerns about Hillary
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 08:28 PM
Mar 2016

One should know here who is the one living in a bubble...

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
4. so many reasons to seek an alternative
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 06:49 PM
Mar 2016

Simply too flawed to represent Democrats.

(I think Al Gore fits your job description above. Sadly.)

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
7. This should get tons of votes for Bernie!
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 06:54 PM
Mar 2016

Meanwhile the largest news paper in Arizona just gave Hillary a resounding endorsement!

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
11. Gee! I thought Bernie was so proud of his Republican support!!!
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 07:08 PM
Mar 2016

The Arizona REPUBLIC (not republican) is an excellent endorsement.

Just because the Arizona Republic knows that Trump, Cruz and Sanders would all be disastrous Presidents is no reason to discount them. Most of the Democratic party feels the same way.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
30. The rich and super-rich love their Clinton. Expect the standard of living for the lower
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 08:57 PM
Mar 2016

classes to drop while her friends reap huge profits. How can you turn your backs on those struggling among us? Don't bother, I know the answer. Worshiping at the idol of greed and wealth is more important.

 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
12. Always, I guess.
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 07:11 PM
Mar 2016

Sanders is close to the end of the road. Clinton took the other fork, and stayed on the path well traveled, the path familiar to most, the path we have trod for 30 years now. We came close this time, but a little inertia in some places, along with a little momentum in other places, and we bogged down in the mud. I hope the Clinton supporters lose the hubris, because it will not serve us well against The Donald. He's insane, but he's clever, and he will run at Hillary from all sorts of unexpected places.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
32. Gloat while you can. When the poverty rates climb along with Goldman-Sachs profits
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 09:00 PM
Mar 2016

I hope you will understand that supporting the 1% won't help the poor or those struggling among us.

It's an uphill struggle but we will fight the Big Money you so devoutly revere until the end one way or the other.

I hope you don't think the 1% care about you.

Hekate

(90,674 posts)
15. When the woman in question is the best-qualified in every respect. And Hillary is.
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 07:31 PM
Mar 2016

For all the moaning about how HRC doesn't generate "excitement," let it be pointed out that her voters show up. She has more votes tallied than Sanders. Forget the superdelegates ( which he somehow thinks he can persuade away from her). She has more VOTES. More than Sanders, more than Trump.

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
16. Who said it was?
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 08:17 PM
Mar 2016

Hillary currently has 2.7 million more popular votes and well over 300 more pledged delegates than Bernie. That's a fact. That is what says something.

If you want Sanders to be the nominee, work to get him more votes. Its that simple.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
18. That's what bothers me
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 08:30 PM
Mar 2016

Up to this point 1 million more people are ignoring the facts and lazily voting for all the wrong reasons.

It's scary so many are not quite up to speed.

AZ Progressive

(3,411 posts)
19. You can thank the strategically placed debates for that
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 08:36 PM
Mar 2016

as well as the Trump circus for taking attention away from the Democratic Party race.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
29. And the media
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 08:55 PM
Mar 2016

And the fact Bernie is so new to everyone and most are too lazy to find out what Bernie is all about and what Clinton's true story is.

brooklynite

(94,520 posts)
24. Hillary Clinton voters are "lazy"?
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 08:50 PM
Mar 2016

You know, I can't imagine why your campaign strategy isn't working better.

AZ Progressive

(3,411 posts)
26. Bernie is a startup and Hillary is a 25 year established brand
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 08:54 PM
Mar 2016

But as big corporations show, just because you have an established brand doesn't mean that you aren't very corrupt.

brooklynite

(94,520 posts)
34. A member of Congress for 25 years is a "start up"?
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 09:08 PM
Mar 2016

I really have to applaud you on your creative messaging.

AZ Progressive

(3,411 posts)
35. Most voters didn't know about Bernie until this election season
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 09:10 PM
Mar 2016

Only the young people and people in the progressive world.

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
40. Yeap and a trillion people outside of McConnells window would change his mind on legislation
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 12:54 AM
Mar 2016

... cause that's worked before yah know.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
33. Gloating is so typical. You are an exceptional person Sid. Have you ever written a
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 09:05 PM
Mar 2016

substantial post? Naw, that's not what you are here for is it?

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
37. When should putting the guy who isn't leading in the race be more important
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 09:16 PM
Mar 2016

than listening to the will of the voters? Clinton is ahead on delegates. She's ahead on the popular vote. And yet you want Sanders to be handed the nomination since he isn't going to win it.

Some people apparently don't like democracy.

Oh and nice lie to say that people are voting for her based on her gender and the name. Because all of her voters are apparently too stupid to look past either of those. But I suppose it's easier for to make things up rather than look into what the polls say about why she's winning.

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