2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forum3/28 Time Mag: Hillary Is Our Very Own Kale and Quinoa Salad
Time Magazine's Joe Klein (a long-time advocate for the Clintons) talks about Hillary's answer to the doctor/voter who said he and his family are thinking of moving out of the USA because they are afraid of Trump:
http://time.com/4262504/to-take-out-donald-trump-hillary-clinton-must-first-stop-acting-like-a-politician/
Clinton seems particularly ill equipped for the task [of taking out Trump]. She is our very own quinoa and kale salad, nutritious but bland. Worse, shes the human embodiment of the Establishment that Trump has been running against. I am not a natural politician, she has admitted, and Tapper asked her what she means by that. She said she couldnt speak in poetry the way her husband and Barack Obama can. True dat, but poetry is only the beginning of Clintons deficiencies. Indeed, her real problem is that shes too much of a politician. She still speaks like politicians did 20 years ago, when her husband was President. This year, the candidates who have seemed the most appealingTrump, Sanders, John Kasichdont use the oratorical switchbacks that have been beaten to death since John F. Kennedy: We need a uniter, not a divider. They also, sadly, dont take carefully nuanced positions. Asked about fracking in her Flint, Mich., debate with Sanders, Clinton split hairs with a microlaser, leaving everyone confused. Sanders simply said, I do not support fracking.
Clinton no doubt assumes that Trump will come after her personallyand that her thick skin will protect her. But heres an easy one: What if Trump raises her husbands deplorableSanders descriptionexploitation of Monica Lewinsky directly in a debate? Will she have the jujitsu cool to respond, Deplorable? Hell yeah. Thats why he slept on the couch for six months?
There is an odd new law of U.S. politics: You can lie, as Trump does all the time, egregiously, but you cant temporize. You cant avoid a position on the XL pipeline or the Trans-Pacific trade deal, as Clinton tried to do in the campaign. You cant try to please too many people too much of the time. Raising your voice to make a pointwhich Clinton does all the time, disastrously, because it seems such a conscious actwont get you anywhere unless youre really angry.
In the end, Im not at all certain that Clinton can beat Trump. He is free-form and anarchic and silly and devastating. She is rote. The answer to Dr. Majmudars question may involve a simplicity that eludes her. To beat Trump, she is going to have to be patient, dignified, self-deprecating, utterly factual and brutally honest (about herself). Poetry isnt going to work this year.
Much more at the link. Constructive criticism.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Just keep asking him: How?
It will become blatantly obvious as you keep asking him that simple question what a complete dope he is. Over and over and over again.
grasswire
(50,130 posts)You keep thinking that will work, eh?
HIS VOTERS DON'T CARE.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Anyone who wants to pay attention will see a dope.
Fast Walker 52
(7,723 posts)is freaked out right now.
0rganism
(23,970 posts)but in the general, assuming he actually wants to be president, Trump will have to go at least a little deeper into the "how", maybe one layer of "how" would be enough, hard to say. voters, his or otherwise, don't like lengthy explanations, so he'll have to be on-message when he does answer a "how" question.
MisterP
(23,730 posts)JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)These attacks are getting pretty funny.
bunnies
(15,859 posts)And actually quite delicious.
http://allrecipes.com/recipe/52718/flourless-chocolate-cake-ii/
Enrique
(27,461 posts)it's going to be her campaign, and I hope she has a good one.