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If you aggregate all the tracking polls, it is tied (Original Post) TexasCPA Oct 2012 OP
Gallup is single handedly screwing up the entire average... gcomeau Oct 2012 #1
True, but if you drop the largest from each side... regnaD kciN Oct 2012 #7
Except... gcomeau Oct 2012 #8
That's not true teabaggersarestupid Oct 2012 #9
BTW, Princeton Elections Consortium still has Obama up 290-248... regnaD kciN Oct 2012 #2
Yes, we are doing better in swing states TexasCPA Oct 2012 #3
I'll listen to those 2 sources n/t flamingdem Oct 2012 #4
Only with the skew given by the GOPs own proprietary polling service, Gallup. leveymg Oct 2012 #5
I think it is ok to drop Gallup in that group until they use a more realistic voter model. hrmjustin Oct 2012 #6

regnaD kciN

(26,044 posts)
7. True, but if you drop the largest from each side...
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 04:48 PM
Oct 2012

...the remaining average shifts from O+0.3 to R+0.3

If there's any cause for "concern," it's that Ras (along with Gallup, of course) showed a one-point move toward Romney after the first full day of post-debate polling. However, if I recall correctly, Ras reweights their results to reflect their already-decided-upon model of partisan voter turnout, so any Obama gains from increased voter enthusiasm on our side would essentially be filtered out of the Ras results.

 

gcomeau

(5,764 posts)
8. Except...
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 05:00 PM
Oct 2012

...that it's not just a matter of "the largest from each side".

The Rand poll didn't all of a sudden go insane and start showing wildly swinging numbers in directions no other poll is moving in the absence of any event that could have caused it... and in fact in the presence of multiple events (2nd debate, recent almost universally positive economic news even in Gallup's own surveys) that would contra-indicate it.

There's no reason to throw Rand out just because it's on one side of the spectrum of numbers.. It isn't suddenly showing implausibly outlying behavior that defies all explanation.

regnaD kciN

(26,044 posts)
2. BTW, Princeton Elections Consortium still has Obama up 290-248...
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 04:41 PM
Oct 2012

...in their latest report from 1 1/2 hours ago.

Also, Nate Silver has re-elect odds at 65.7%, although, in the Silververse, that seems to translate to a "modest" or "narrow" lead.

TexasCPA

(527 posts)
3. Yes, we are doing better in swing states
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 04:43 PM
Oct 2012

Who cares if Romney wins Utah by 45%? We care more about winning Ohio by 2%.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
5. Only with the skew given by the GOPs own proprietary polling service, Gallup.
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 04:45 PM
Oct 2012

Otherwise, it's back to +4 or so, which is where it was before the first debate. So chill, yourself.

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