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UCmeNdc

(9,600 posts)
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 04:30 PM Oct 2012

Ann Romney: Mormon missions and U.S. military are ‘different ways of serving’

The candidate’s wife explained that Mormon missions were like military service in that “you’re going outside of yourself, you’re working and you’re helping others. And it changes you. And are we so grateful in this country for those people — men and women — that are volunteering, they’re sacrificing their life for us, and we cannot forget that or we have to acknowledge that always.”

“So, when you’re facing these mothers whose children have not come back, how will you explain to them that your sons haven’t gone?” Goldberg pressed. “Will you talk about the missions they’ve gone on?”

“I would say it’s probably the hardest thing that a president and a first lady probably do is to comfort those that have lost a love one and have gone in harm’s way,” Ann Romney replied, not directly answering the question. “It is an amazing country, we have the most extraordinary fighting men and women, and we have to be so grateful for them. Of course, it’s hard, and I don’t think that any of us can understand the sacrifice [sic] that are being made by families.”


http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/10/18/ann-romney-mormon-missions-and-u-s-military-are-different-ways-of-serving/


The Romney's should be ashamed!

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Ann Romney: Mormon missions and U.S. military are ‘different ways of serving’ (Original Post) UCmeNdc Oct 2012 OP
. barnabas63 Oct 2012 #1
or even to one coming home whole tk2kewl Oct 2012 #3
AMAZED at her ignorance. Good-Fellow Oct 2012 #37
No, they are not. One group serves a religion and another a country. sinkingfeeling Oct 2012 #2
Exactly atreides1 Oct 2012 #19
Right. And they were doing it in other countries, too treestar Oct 2012 #27
Yes Mormons helping their fellow man on their "missions" Politicalboi Oct 2012 #4
Mormon missionaries are not "helping others." The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2012 #5
I swear................... sweettater Oct 2012 #6
Unbelievable. Truly unbelievable. What a clueless, narcissistic, a$$hole. mnhtnbb Oct 2012 #7
Why should her entitled sons have to serve with 'those people' in the military? WI_DEM Oct 2012 #8
tell me the last time a mormon died doing his missionary work? NavyDavy Oct 2012 #9
...IN FRANCE? KeepItReal Oct 2012 #23
It will never be proved Mitt was responsible for that accident.... Brother Buzz Oct 2012 #30
Wait. RMoney had a car accident in France? KeepItReal Oct 2012 #33
Fighting is for peons madashelltoo Oct 2012 #10
What a disgusting joke! courseofhistory Oct 2012 #11
I'm not aware of Mormons being in the line of fire in a war theater. no_hypocrisy Oct 2012 #12
This is truly insulting! UCmeNdc Oct 2012 #13
That is the company line... Blue Idaho Oct 2012 #14
Yes and it's interesting how all the 'missionaries' in her family get to go to France. denverbill Oct 2012 #15
I'm not sure this'll go over well with the Tea Party either... brooklynite Oct 2012 #16
Don't worry about that atreides1 Oct 2012 #22
It's another way to serve up garbage by adding to the pile of religious piety and bigotry. Lint Head Oct 2012 #17
a slow motion train wreck of FAIL.... mike_c Oct 2012 #18
How is it "helping others" to fucking PESTER ME AT HOME TwilightGardener Oct 2012 #20
The whole fuckin romney tribe should be ashamed. russspeakeasy Oct 2012 #21
Join the Mormon Church, see the world and dodge the draft.:-) Raven Oct 2012 #24
Not enough people know about Romney's pro-Vietnam War position & draft dodging TroyD Oct 2012 #25
Queen Ann really needs to shut the f*** up Skittles Oct 2012 #26
I grew up in a military family. She's full of shit. SEMOVoter Oct 2012 #28
yes her boys have learn something.. mshasta Oct 2012 #29
Five children...and ALL Mini-Mitts Good-Fellow Oct 2012 #36
How many kids are maimed or killed on their mission trips? How many of them have PTSD? n/t gkhouston Oct 2012 #31
Well, Romney at least seems to have PTSD. aletier_v Oct 2012 #35
Last time I checked truebluegreen Oct 2012 #32
Have you ever proselytized? I bet missionairies get shot at often. aletier_v Oct 2012 #34
Can't see that going over well with the Military who Cha Oct 2012 #38
That is an interesting tidbit! Change has come Oct 2012 #39
Ann Romney is as arrogant as her husband, but Phx_Dem Oct 2012 #40
They are different ways of serving, that's true jmowreader Oct 2012 #41
Fuck off Ann lunatica Oct 2012 #42
What she doesn't seem to get is that working to increase the numbers in your CHURCH Marrah_G Oct 2012 #43
That is completely insulting to all our folks in uniform - TBF Oct 2012 #44

Good-Fellow

(5 posts)
37. AMAZED at her ignorance.
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 09:06 PM
Oct 2012

Her equating her BOYS going door-to-door to sell a religion, and MEN enlisting
in the military as a soldier, who is trained to go to battle and is ready to risk his life
for his country is ASTOUNDING. She doesn't live in the REAL world.
Showed complete ignorance and DISRESPECT for entire Military and all Armed Forces.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
27. Right. And they were doing it in other countries, too
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 05:45 PM
Oct 2012

Every one of the Rmoneys did their missionary work in another country.

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
4. Yes Mormons helping their fellow man on their "missions"
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 04:33 PM
Oct 2012

By trying to keep gay marriage illegal. Fuck you Lady Ann.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,704 posts)
5. Mormon missionaries are not "helping others."
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 04:35 PM
Oct 2012

They are not like the missionaries of many other faiths, who actually do something useful in other countries, like build houses or schools or provide medical care and food. I'm not a big fan of anybody trying to push their faith and customs on other cultures, but at least the other churches offer help along with their doctrine. But all the Mormons do is go door to door, handing out nothing but religious tracts. No food, no medicine, no help. Who, exactly, are they helping other than their weird-ass church?

sweettater

(729 posts)
6. I swear...................
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 04:36 PM
Oct 2012

this is the icing on the cake. As someone who lost a brother in Vietnam I could just . My head is just spinning! How dare her!

mnhtnbb

(31,389 posts)
7. Unbelievable. Truly unbelievable. What a clueless, narcissistic, a$$hole.
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 04:36 PM
Oct 2012

The two of them are a real pair.

madashelltoo

(1,698 posts)
10. Fighting is for peons
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 04:41 PM
Oct 2012

And, we all know the Rmoneys are not peons. They only FEEL like taking a swing at someone. They wouldn't actually do it . . . because they would get their asses kicked.

courseofhistory

(801 posts)
11. What a disgusting joke!
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 04:42 PM
Oct 2012

There is NO comparison. Mormon missionaries are not serving their country. They are prostelithizing their religion. Nothing wrong with that but it is absolutely not the same thing as serving in the military!

UCmeNdc

(9,600 posts)
13. This is truly insulting!
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 04:42 PM
Oct 2012

This is an insult toward all military members. The Romney's and their whole family are living off of the sacrifice of the brave men and women of the military. How can she so easily equate keeping her sons safe and happy while another mother loses her child for the benefit of the nation? Equal?

Blue Idaho

(5,049 posts)
14. That is the company line...
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 04:42 PM
Oct 2012

This belief is not unique to Ann - plenty of Mormons will tell you exactly the same thing. In fact, it was not uncommon for young Mormon men to avoid the draft and military duty by serving a Mission. Obviously - there were young Mormon men that did serve their country through military duty, but many I knew during the Vietnam era served an LDS mission instead of joining up or being drafted.

The bigger question is - how can two such completely out of touch people ever be trusted in the White House?

denverbill

(11,489 posts)
15. Yes and it's interesting how all the 'missionaries' in her family get to go to France.
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 04:43 PM
Oct 2012

Most of them go to Podunk, OH or some remote village in Africa.

atreides1

(16,079 posts)
22. Don't worry about that
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 04:53 PM
Oct 2012

Romney is white, the Tea Party would vote for Ted Bundy...as long as it kicked Obama out of the White House!

TroyD

(4,551 posts)
25. Not enough people know about Romney's pro-Vietnam War position & draft dodging
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 05:29 PM
Oct 2012

It is only 2.5 weeks until the election.

Isn't it time to hit him more over this?

Sen. Jim Webb (D-VA) did a little bit of work in that direction a couple of weeks ago, but I would like to see him do more. And for Sen. John Kerry and others to join in.

Expose the fact that Romney, nor his 5 sons, have ever served in the military.

mshasta

(2,108 posts)
29. yes her boys have learn something..
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 05:54 PM
Oct 2012

how to impose religion
how to lie to your country by running away for serving and comeback a life
how to be a crook and the name of jshepthh..wherever he is
have a privilege life
learn to cheat
make a women stay at home with full of kids

Good-Fellow

(5 posts)
36. Five children...and ALL Mini-Mitts
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 08:48 PM
Oct 2012

After seeing a tape of Ann Romney on "View", you can't help feel:
No matter HOW MUCH she speaks, she has no REAL point of view, or anything to say.
She can't respond with "You'll have to ask Mitt" after he suddenly bailed out of HIS appearance.
This woman wanted a daughter badly... but gave up after giving birth to five little clones of Mitt.
Can't say he would "Move Heaven and Earth" for country as President, when Romney once had
used same analogy.... we shouldn't "Move Heaven and Earth" to HUNT AND PURSUE BIN-LADEN.

 

truebluegreen

(9,033 posts)
32. Last time I checked
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 06:22 PM
Oct 2012

the US was not a theocracy and the Norman church was not the established religion...but yeah, other than that, Norman church missions and US military service are totally the same.

aletier_v

(1,773 posts)
34. Have you ever proselytized? I bet missionairies get shot at often.
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 06:41 PM
Oct 2012

Heck, they used to get cooked and eaten in Africa.

Phx_Dem

(11,198 posts)
40. Ann Romney is as arrogant as her husband, but
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 10:53 PM
Oct 2012

I don't get Whoopies point . . . Serving in the military is, thankfully, not a a requirement to be President. Obama, Clinton and Reagan -- in recent history -- were not in the military. Well, unless you count Ronnie's movie roles.

jmowreader

(50,557 posts)
41. They are different ways of serving, that's true
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 07:28 AM
Oct 2012

The code of conduct for the soldier begins,
I am an American fighting man. I serve in the forces that guard our country and its way of life. I am prepared to give my life in its defense.

When Mormons pledge to be ready to die for Joseph Smith, let me know.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
42. Fuck off Ann
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 07:51 AM
Oct 2012

being forced to do missionary work for a year or so by knocking on doors isn't putting yourself in harms way you fucking slug. Exactly what is the big sacrifice?

That's up there with Babs not messing her beautiful mind up while the people from New Orleans were making out so well in the Texas football stadium.



Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
43. What she doesn't seem to get is that working to increase the numbers in your CHURCH
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 07:58 AM
Oct 2012

is far different from serving your COUNTRY.

One serves your own selfish desires and the other serves ( or should serve) the good of the country as a WHOLE.

TBF

(32,062 posts)
44. That is completely insulting to all our folks in uniform -
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 08:10 AM
Oct 2012

and especially those on the front lines. When folks join the US Military they are not only giving up many of their own rights but also putting their lives on the line - particularly when sent into combat zones. That she can compare bicycling in France to convert folks to her religion (imaginary musings) vs. willingness to die for your country shows an amazing lack of sanity.

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