2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumRomney campaign begins moving staff out of NC, confident of victory
The Romney campaign is beginning to feel confident enough about North Carolina that is beginning to shift staff out of the state.
Among those are who are being posted elsewhere in the final weeks of the campaign is Robert Reid, the chief Romney spokesman in North Carolina. With the increasingly widening polls in North Carolina, we will continue to allocate resources, including key senior staff, to other states, said Michael Levoff, a Romney campaign spokesman.
http://projects.newsobserver.com/under_the_dome/romney_campaign_begins_moving_staff_out_of_nc_confident_of_victory
Panasonic
(2,921 posts)that he's about to lose as a swing state.
Like Colorado, Ohio and Florida?
patricia92243
(12,595 posts)NC is going for Romney. There are a LOT of rednecks here.
tarheelsunc
(2,117 posts)I saw tons of Obama supporters in the Triangle and if there are Romney supporters, they weren't enthusiastic ones.
LisaL
(44,973 posts)Maybe in some locality there were more Romney supporters. But I very much doubt it's true for the whole sate.
Carolina Lady
(33 posts)I voted in a new polling place today and the line was 45 minutes long. I live in a very democratic area. Drove by my old polling place and the same thing, long lines. n
DURHAM D
(32,610 posts)I arrived at 3:30 pm and the place was jammed. I had to wait in line and the workers told me it had been that way all day. I live in a heavily Democratic area.
mgcgulfcoast
(1,127 posts)if NC was going for Obama then obama would be +10 at least in ohio.
ncgrits
(916 posts)WI_DEM
(33,497 posts)He was a far way from winning Ohio by 10-points in '08.
movonne
(9,623 posts)of the states that use romney voting equipment???
flamingdem
(39,313 posts)don't fall for it...
morningfog
(18,115 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Shifting 5 staffers at this stage won't change diddly.
nc4bo
(17,651 posts)there is also those Black Bible Humping Fundie Hypocrites. Enthusiasm is so low they say.
Republicans, according to WRAL, are leading in absentee ballot REQUESTS, which is something I thought was typical thug behavior and worthy of a meh.
left on green only
(1,484 posts)...unbiased sources, I would say that it means that the right wing is gambling that they will luck out in North Carolina, and are concentrating their work force in places where it is desperately needed. It appears to me like this strategy is the panic logic of a sinking ship.
LisaL
(44,973 posts)If they think they got it in the bank, lest prove them wrong.
MSMITH33156
(879 posts)I don't think people realize how much of a macro strategy campaigns use. They set staffing levels well in advance and map out everything. To move staff around 2 weeks before an election is ALWAYS a bad sign, regardless of their stated reason. It generally means that something has gone wrong somewhere else. In this case, they are losing Ohio, and they know whatever happens, they can't win without it.
But it makes no sense to pull staff out of another close state, lose that, and then win Ohio. So you take the swing state where you think you have the best chance of winning, where you could still win if you move some staff out, which is North Carolina for Romney, and you move them into the critical state, telling everyone you have that state in the bag.
bushisanidiot
(8,064 posts)i'm sure mccain was confident about nc, too.
HAHAHA!
Thrill
(19,178 posts)Although he's already spent a ton of money here. Him and Rove's Super Pac
davidn3600
(6,342 posts)I think this state is lost. Even a poll a few weeks ago showed Romney picking up a small slice of the black vote.
LisaL
(44,973 posts)In fact in states with early voting more people voted to date in 2012 than in 2008.
progressivebydesign
(19,458 posts)And please show us where there is an enthusiasm problem. Because all I see is MASSIVE Crowds for the President, and more signs, more stickers, more early voters.
davidn3600
(6,342 posts)Adenoid_Hynkel
(14,093 posts)from the same article:
A WRAL News poll from October 2008 showed 92 percent of black voters in North Carolina supported Obama, while only 3 percent backed Republican nominee John McCain. In a WRAL News poll released two weeks ago, Obama's support among black voters has fallen to 87 percent, with 12 percent saying they plan to back Republican Mitt Romney.
Those results are moving in the opposite direction from overall Democratic support for Obama, which is higher this year.
That sliver of the AA support that's broken off may be canceled out
and let's be honest - 87 percent of any demographic is still a fucking wipeout
Thank you for your concern.
abumbyanyothername
(2,711 posts)But I think you are very borderline.
obamanut2012
(26,076 posts)In a red area of the state, and I was in and out in ten minutes, including the time it took me to vote. I voted straight ticket, but marked every vote separately.
progressivebydesign
(19,458 posts)He has so much money... it's a head-fake, or stupidity on his part.
abumbyanyothername
(2,711 posts)They know that their ads aren't having an effect and they need people on the ground to organize a ground game. Problem is . . . they don't know how to do it.
In NC they have what they have and very hard to organize a ground game in Appalachia. They are going to OH where they can at least pretend to do something useful.
Not that it will matter.
Cha
(297,240 posts)October 18, 2012 at 6:38 pm
Crissie, we are all crazy right now but PBO is still here in NC I was at one of his offices today and I live in a small, red, town in NC and his coordinator from Az gave me no indication that he was pulling out of NC .she is even borrowing a coffee pot from me .if Romney had NC so sewn up that he is leaving here do you think PBO would be still staying? He would be pulling his group of Ohio, Va, or Fla or somewhere else TOO .it is inconceivable that PBO is going to lose this election we might not pull it off in NC(we have a LOT of KKK types and kooky right wings who CALL themselves Christians) but there is also whole lot of people who have a brain and a heart my gut tells me that we WILL narrowly win NC .
Thought the personal experience might be relevant here..
http://theobamadiary.com/2012/10/18/how-early-vote-turned-north-carolina-blue/#comments
DCBob
(24,689 posts)No way they can be that sure of NC with 3 weeks to go.
Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)smorkingapple
(827 posts)Romney needs NC more than Ohio. No way he pulls up shop if he was worried. He loses NC and Ohio doesn't even matter. MAYBE a huge Obama push there would help, but no way does Obama shift resources to a state he doesn't need.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)or both. NC is still in play.
ncgrits
(916 posts)than republicans. NC is in play godammit. Frankly if the often inept Romney campaign thinks it makes sense to leave NC on a day when Chapel Hill lined up for HOURS to vote, I say "please proceed."
DCBob
(24,689 posts)most likely they are trolls.
nobunnyclue
(103 posts)... with a significant latino turnout, and Ohio goes to Romney where frankly Obama appears to be lagging in the affluent suburbs and well as the agri-rural areas, then Romney would not need North Carolina if Ryan delivers Wisconsin and the Republican machine is able to shake the argi-energy-rural parts of PA loose enough with the same message that is working in for them in agri-rural Ohio. I'm guessing it's Ohio and PA where they start to put in a big push because of a perceived Obama vulnerability on the energy issue. See how much energy comes up in the third foreign policy debate and that will be a good proxy for what the Republicans are thinking.
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)Yes, motherfuckers. I'm going to call you fuckers out.
And laugh.