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alp227

(32,025 posts)
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 05:58 PM Oct 2012

Romney campaign begins moving staff out of NC, confident of victory

The Romney campaign is beginning to feel confident enough about North Carolina that is beginning to shift staff out of the state.

Among those are who are being posted elsewhere in the final weeks of the campaign is Robert Reid, the chief Romney spokesman in North Carolina. “With the increasingly widening polls in North Carolina, we will continue to allocate resources, including key senior staff, to other states,” said Michael Levoff, a Romney campaign spokesman.

http://projects.newsobserver.com/under_the_dome/romney_campaign_begins_moving_staff_out_of_nc_confident_of_victory

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Romney campaign begins moving staff out of NC, confident of victory (Original Post) alp227 Oct 2012 OP
In other words, Rmoney lost North Carolina and are shifting staff to save the remaining states Panasonic Oct 2012 #1
Local news station reported twice as many repubs voted today as Democrats. I'm afraid patricia92243 Oct 2012 #2
Depends on what part of the state tarheelsunc Oct 2012 #10
Exactly. LisaL Oct 2012 #13
Same here in Chalotte. Carolina Lady Oct 2012 #18
I voted today in NC. DURHAM D Oct 2012 #15
i disagree. romney has NC in the bag mgcgulfcoast Oct 2012 #3
I'm not so sure. Check out this great post from John2 ncgrits Oct 2012 #4
you are aware that in 2008 Obama won Ohio by 4.6% and still won NC narrowly. WI_DEM Oct 2012 #22
Or they got the fix in...I don't know but is that one movonne Oct 2012 #6
This is disputed, this is cover for moving staff to Ohio where they are desperate flamingdem Oct 2012 #5
Yep. Mitt cannot win without OH. He has to go all in there. morningfog Oct 2012 #37
Head fake. This is to make it seem like OH is getting closer via more resources. geek tragedy Oct 2012 #7
There are strong forces here attempting to depress the vote especially among young AA's nc4bo Oct 2012 #8
Since North Carolina is still listed as a toss up state by most...... left on green only Oct 2012 #9
I agree. LisaL Oct 2012 #11
It's this MSMITH33156 Oct 2012 #27
False confidence is gonna kill 'em in the end bushisanidiot Oct 2012 #12
I live in NC. And I think its a mistake for Mittens to think he has it wrapped up in NC Thrill Oct 2012 #14
Obama only won NC by 14,000 votes in 2008. And the enthusiasm is lower in 2012. davidn3600 Oct 2012 #16
I don't see any evidence that enthusiasm is lower. LisaL Oct 2012 #17
Please link to the polls showing that Romney is picking up the black vote. progressivebydesign Oct 2012 #20
Right here.... davidn3600 Oct 2012 #28
but Adenoid_Hynkel Oct 2012 #38
BS DURHAM D Oct 2012 #24
I will give you the benefit of the doubt here. abumbyanyothername Oct 2012 #25
I voted today in NC obamanut2012 Oct 2012 #19
That's bullshit. No WAY ROmney would leave NC because he thought he was winning it. No way. progressivebydesign Oct 2012 #21
At this point it's not a question of money abumbyanyothername Oct 2012 #26
Comment from another site I just read from a resident In North Carolina Cha Oct 2012 #23
Head fake. DCBob Oct 2012 #29
NC just tightened according to some polls - he's running away! Rosa Luxemburg Oct 2012 #30
NC is gone guys. Don't get your heart broken on election day... smorkingapple Oct 2012 #31
You're either clueless or lying... DCBob Oct 2012 #33
We've registered 800,000 more dems ncgrits Oct 2012 #34
Indeed. LisaL Oct 2012 #35
ignore these idiots who are giving up on NC.. DCBob Oct 2012 #36
If Florida goes for Obama nobunnyclue Oct 2012 #32
On election night, I'm going to laugh openly at the DUers on this thread claiming Romney win in NC alcibiades_mystery Oct 2012 #39
 

Panasonic

(2,921 posts)
1. In other words, Rmoney lost North Carolina and are shifting staff to save the remaining states
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 05:59 PM
Oct 2012

that he's about to lose as a swing state.

Like Colorado, Ohio and Florida?

patricia92243

(12,595 posts)
2. Local news station reported twice as many repubs voted today as Democrats. I'm afraid
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 06:03 PM
Oct 2012

NC is going for Romney. There are a LOT of rednecks here.

tarheelsunc

(2,117 posts)
10. Depends on what part of the state
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 06:41 PM
Oct 2012

I saw tons of Obama supporters in the Triangle and if there are Romney supporters, they weren't enthusiastic ones.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
13. Exactly.
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 06:42 PM
Oct 2012

Maybe in some locality there were more Romney supporters. But I very much doubt it's true for the whole sate.

Carolina Lady

(33 posts)
18. Same here in Chalotte.
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 07:01 PM
Oct 2012

I voted in a new polling place today and the line was 45 minutes long. I live in a very democratic area. Drove by my old polling place and the same thing, long lines. n

DURHAM D

(32,610 posts)
15. I voted today in NC.
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 06:47 PM
Oct 2012

I arrived at 3:30 pm and the place was jammed. I had to wait in line and the workers told me it had been that way all day. I live in a heavily Democratic area.

mgcgulfcoast

(1,127 posts)
3. i disagree. romney has NC in the bag
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 06:03 PM
Oct 2012

if NC was going for Obama then obama would be +10 at least in ohio.

WI_DEM

(33,497 posts)
22. you are aware that in 2008 Obama won Ohio by 4.6% and still won NC narrowly.
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 07:07 PM
Oct 2012

He was a far way from winning Ohio by 10-points in '08.

movonne

(9,623 posts)
6. Or they got the fix in...I don't know but is that one
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 06:24 PM
Oct 2012

of the states that use romney voting equipment???

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
5. This is disputed, this is cover for moving staff to Ohio where they are desperate
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 06:21 PM
Oct 2012

don't fall for it...

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
7. Head fake. This is to make it seem like OH is getting closer via more resources.
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 06:26 PM
Oct 2012

Shifting 5 staffers at this stage won't change diddly.

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
8. There are strong forces here attempting to depress the vote especially among young AA's
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 06:30 PM
Oct 2012

there is also those Black Bible Humping Fundie Hypocrites. Enthusiasm is so low they say.

Republicans, according to WRAL, are leading in absentee ballot REQUESTS, which is something I thought was typical thug behavior and worthy of a meh.

left on green only

(1,484 posts)
9. Since North Carolina is still listed as a toss up state by most......
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 06:31 PM
Oct 2012

...unbiased sources, I would say that it means that the right wing is gambling that they will luck out in North Carolina, and are concentrating their work force in places where it is desperately needed. It appears to me like this strategy is the panic logic of a sinking ship.

MSMITH33156

(879 posts)
27. It's this
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 07:55 PM
Oct 2012

I don't think people realize how much of a macro strategy campaigns use. They set staffing levels well in advance and map out everything. To move staff around 2 weeks before an election is ALWAYS a bad sign, regardless of their stated reason. It generally means that something has gone wrong somewhere else. In this case, they are losing Ohio, and they know whatever happens, they can't win without it.

But it makes no sense to pull staff out of another close state, lose that, and then win Ohio. So you take the swing state where you think you have the best chance of winning, where you could still win if you move some staff out, which is North Carolina for Romney, and you move them into the critical state, telling everyone you have that state in the bag.

Thrill

(19,178 posts)
14. I live in NC. And I think its a mistake for Mittens to think he has it wrapped up in NC
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 06:44 PM
Oct 2012

Although he's already spent a ton of money here. Him and Rove's Super Pac

 

davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
16. Obama only won NC by 14,000 votes in 2008. And the enthusiasm is lower in 2012.
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 06:52 PM
Oct 2012

I think this state is lost. Even a poll a few weeks ago showed Romney picking up a small slice of the black vote.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
17. I don't see any evidence that enthusiasm is lower.
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 06:54 PM
Oct 2012

In fact in states with early voting more people voted to date in 2012 than in 2008.

progressivebydesign

(19,458 posts)
20. Please link to the polls showing that Romney is picking up the black vote.
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 07:05 PM
Oct 2012

And please show us where there is an enthusiasm problem. Because all I see is MASSIVE Crowds for the President, and more signs, more stickers, more early voters.

 

Adenoid_Hynkel

(14,093 posts)
38. but
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 11:37 PM
Oct 2012

from the same article:
A WRAL News poll from October 2008 showed 92 percent of black voters in North Carolina supported Obama, while only 3 percent backed Republican nominee John McCain. In a WRAL News poll released two weeks ago, Obama's support among black voters has fallen to 87 percent, with 12 percent saying they plan to back Republican Mitt Romney.

Those results are moving in the opposite direction from overall Democratic support for Obama, which is higher this year.
That sliver of the AA support that's broken off may be canceled out
and let's be honest - 87 percent of any demographic is still a fucking wipeout

obamanut2012

(26,076 posts)
19. I voted today in NC
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 07:04 PM
Oct 2012

In a red area of the state, and I was in and out in ten minutes, including the time it took me to vote. I voted straight ticket, but marked every vote separately.

progressivebydesign

(19,458 posts)
21. That's bullshit. No WAY ROmney would leave NC because he thought he was winning it. No way.
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 07:06 PM
Oct 2012

He has so much money... it's a head-fake, or stupidity on his part.

abumbyanyothername

(2,711 posts)
26. At this point it's not a question of money
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 07:23 PM
Oct 2012

They know that their ads aren't having an effect and they need people on the ground to organize a ground game. Problem is . . . they don't know how to do it.

In NC they have what they have and very hard to organize a ground game in Appalachia. They are going to OH where they can at least pretend to do something useful.

Not that it will matter.

Cha

(297,240 posts)
23. Comment from another site I just read from a resident In North Carolina
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 07:14 PM
Oct 2012
kathryn kivett

October 18, 2012 at 6:38 pm

Crissie, we are all crazy right now but PBO is still here in NC…I was at one of his offices today and I live in a small, red, town in NC and his coordinator from Az gave me no indication that he was pulling out of NC….she is even borrowing a coffee pot from me….if Romney had NC so sewn up that he is leaving here do you think PBO would be still staying? He would be pulling his group of Ohio, Va, or Fla or somewhere else TOO….it is inconceivable that PBO is going to lose this election…we might not pull it off in NC(we have a LOT of KKK types and kooky right wings who CALL themselves Christians) but there is also whole lot of people who have a brain and a heart……my gut tells me that we WILL narrowly win NC…….


Thought the personal experience might be relevant here..

http://theobamadiary.com/2012/10/18/how-early-vote-turned-north-carolina-blue/#comments

smorkingapple

(827 posts)
31. NC is gone guys. Don't get your heart broken on election day...
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 08:16 PM
Oct 2012

Romney needs NC more than Ohio. No way he pulls up shop if he was worried. He loses NC and Ohio doesn't even matter. MAYBE a huge Obama push there would help, but no way does Obama shift resources to a state he doesn't need.

ncgrits

(916 posts)
34. We've registered 800,000 more dems
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 10:32 PM
Oct 2012

than republicans. NC is in play godammit. Frankly if the often inept Romney campaign thinks it makes sense to leave NC on a day when Chapel Hill lined up for HOURS to vote, I say "please proceed."

nobunnyclue

(103 posts)
32. If Florida goes for Obama
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 08:46 PM
Oct 2012

... with a significant latino turnout, and Ohio goes to Romney where frankly Obama appears to be lagging in the affluent suburbs and well as the agri-rural areas, then Romney would not need North Carolina if Ryan delivers Wisconsin and the Republican machine is able to shake the argi-energy-rural parts of PA loose enough with the same message that is working in for them in agri-rural Ohio. I'm guessing it's Ohio and PA where they start to put in a big push because of a perceived Obama vulnerability on the energy issue. See how much energy comes up in the third foreign policy debate and that will be a good proxy for what the Republicans are thinking.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
39. On election night, I'm going to laugh openly at the DUers on this thread claiming Romney win in NC
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 11:40 PM
Oct 2012

Yes, motherfuckers. I'm going to call you fuckers out.

And laugh.

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