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sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 11:42 AM Mar 2016

George Clooney: Clinton 'the only grown-up in the room'

“If you listen to the loudest voices out there today, you’d think we’re a country that hates Mexicans, hates Muslims, and thinks that committing war crimes is the best way to make America great again.”

“The truth is,” Clooney writes, “that the only thing that would prevent America from being great would be to empower these voices
The 54-year-old Academy Award winner writes, “As this primary process continues, Hillary could soon have an insurmountable delegate lead and with that, the Democratic nomination. “That would then make her the only grown-up in the room.”
“And if ever there was a time for a grown-up,” the longtime Democrat adds, “that time is now.”

Clooney, along with his wife, Amal Clooney, is hosting a fundraiser at his Los Angeles home for Clinton next month.

http://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/273743-george-clooney-clinton-the-only-grown-up-in-the-room

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George Clooney: Clinton 'the only grown-up in the room' (Original Post) sufrommich Mar 2016 OP
So, "grown up" is synonymous with "war hawk" now. Fawke Em Mar 2016 #1
He said this: Darb Mar 2016 #4
True. His Bernie complaint? Higher taxes. snowy owl Mar 2016 #46
You're not wrong. 840high Mar 2016 #59
Link? Or did you fabricate this? bettyellen Mar 2016 #61
I can't wait until the world gets a load of us later astrophuss42 Mar 2016 #2
They already know that. Mika Mar 2016 #3
We could be like Canada, but we may choose to remain the same Warmongers we are. artislife Mar 2016 #26
Even Britain snowy owl Mar 2016 #47
Pretty low bar. n/t Dawgs Mar 2016 #5
Back in 2012 George got an ulimatium on his rhetoric, either stop presenting as an ally or Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #6
Misleading heading for post. He says that is true if Bernie no longer in race. HERVEPA Mar 2016 #7
It's the exact headline from the article. nt sufrommich Mar 2016 #8
And the subject of your post. You are not under obligation to put misleading in your heading. HERVEPA Mar 2016 #16
You haven't read much from that poster, have you? nt artislife Mar 2016 #27
Well, enough. :-) That's why I put the "But of course you knew that." HERVEPA Mar 2016 #29
They think they are so sneaky! nt artislife Mar 2016 #32
For all practical purposes, Bernie isn't "in" the race. Although we do appreciate his influence. nt anotherproletariat Mar 2016 #18
Oh, I don't think camp weathervane appreciates him at all. nt artislife Mar 2016 #28
excuse me, George Hiraeth Mar 2016 #9
Adult tk2kewl Mar 2016 #10
K AND R! JaneyVee Mar 2016 #11
Absolutely n/t cosmicone Mar 2016 #12
Confusing title seems like a slam to Bernie whatchamacallit Mar 2016 #13
Yeah. Clooney seems to be leaving Sanders out of it... Orsino Mar 2016 #62
Cloomey is wrong. LW1977 Mar 2016 #14
Darn, on the bus clooney 2pooped2pop Mar 2016 #15
Clooney never said what the poster's title claims. JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #51
''Grown Up'' as ''Won't Raise My Tax Bill''? Octafish Mar 2016 #17
George Clooney has lost his god damn mind. Where do they find these people?! ThePhilosopher04 Mar 2016 #19
Nice misrepresentational headline there. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #20
Thanks, George. And welcome to Under the Bus. McCamy Taylor Mar 2016 #21
That is pretty much how I see it. Tantrums of the left, tantrums on the right.... Yup. Nt seabeyond Mar 2016 #22
...Tantrums in the Center Armstead Mar 2016 #34
That is the point. They are not happening. Hence, Clinton the adult in the room. Nt seabeyond Mar 2016 #36
oooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...There's plenty of tantrums in the center Armstead Mar 2016 #37
She's the only candidate on either side, except possibly O'Malley, whose numbers add up. Donald Ian Rankin Mar 2016 #23
Unicorns and Ponies....Can you at least be creative when you express Rushlike sentiments? Armstead Mar 2016 #35
A distaste for numbers that don't add up is unRushlike. Donald Ian Rankin Mar 2016 #39
"The numbers" seldom add up at first Armstead Mar 2016 #40
Clintonites are bad at math. Or choose not to be good at it. Take your pick. ThePhilosopher04 Mar 2016 #56
Professional mathematician here. Donald Ian Rankin Mar 2016 #60
23 k +r quiller4 Mar 2016 #43
The numbers add up quite well. Go back to school and learn how to count. ThePhilosopher04 Mar 2016 #55
k&r DesertRat Mar 2016 #24
That's exactly right MaggieD Mar 2016 #25
Yay war and corruption...oh brother. n/t Jefferson23 Mar 2016 #30
I volunteer to go under the bus with Clooney! mcar Mar 2016 #31
LOL SunSeeker Mar 2016 #50
None of the Bernie supporters are slamming Clooney. JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #52
As others have noted. Clooney was not slamming Bernie. Au contraire.... Armstead Mar 2016 #33
And we should all try his new Mezcal... blueintelligentsia Mar 2016 #38
I'm sorry, but THIS is Mezcal. cherokeeprogressive Mar 2016 #42
Yowza! That's expensive and my interest piqued. Juicy_Bellows Mar 2016 #48
Well I normally limit myself to Patron but when I want Mezcal there is no substitute. cherokeeprogressive Mar 2016 #64
Posting for a bookmark when I want to buy some! Thanks! JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #53
He throws shrieking tantrums in restaurants and on sets of movie/TV shows. cherokeeprogressive Mar 2016 #41
In context, Clooney is saying 'only grown-up in a room without Bernie'. greyl Mar 2016 #44
That's right.. thank you, George. Cha Mar 2016 #45
George was not slamming Bernie, he was slamming the Republicans. JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #54
K & R SunSeeker Mar 2016 #49
Clooney is a big Clinton supporter. Her campaign LibDemAlways Mar 2016 #57
So the opinion of this actor matters Mike__M Mar 2016 #58
This is the first election I've heard this term. It is condescending and implies people with EndElectoral Mar 2016 #63
Clinton is the immature one, and Bernie the responsible adult in the room idic5 Mar 2016 #65
 

Darb

(2,807 posts)
4. He said this:
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 11:51 AM
Mar 2016

“As this primary process continues, Hillary could soon have an insurmountable delegate lead and with that, the Democratic nomination. “That would then make her the only grown-up in the room.”

So he did not say Bernie was not a grown up. So no need to jerk into attack mode.

snowy owl

(2,145 posts)
46. True. His Bernie complaint? Higher taxes.
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 02:12 AM
Mar 2016

He's one of the elite now. Two beautiful rich people do not want to pay higher taxes. Clooney is not one of us. Remember when he made the Edward R Murrow movie? Somehow, I think he's changed. Of course, I could be wrong.

astrophuss42

(290 posts)
2. I can't wait until the world gets a load of us later
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 11:44 AM
Mar 2016

As a corrupt populace that loves war and gave up the chance to make meaningful strides toward equality.

 

Mika

(17,751 posts)
3. They already know that.
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 11:48 AM
Mar 2016

McCain's bomb Iran song had a yuuuuge impact on most all of my foreign friends. They get it - probably more so than USAsians.






 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
26. We could be like Canada, but we may choose to remain the same Warmongers we are.
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 03:15 PM
Mar 2016

We are the most treacherous people on earth.

snowy owl

(2,145 posts)
47. Even Britain
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 02:15 AM
Mar 2016

Americans so apathetic and uninformed. I've thought about moving to nova scotia. Sell everything I have and going to that small very affordable island. Is it an island? I think so. Beautiful less-populated place. I looked at property there. I think the day will come when an awful lot of Americans will want to leave the country.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
6. Back in 2012 George got an ulimatium on his rhetoric, either stop presenting as an ally or
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 11:55 AM
Mar 2016

stop making excuses for Obama not supporting marriage equality. Clooney's house party was May 11. Evolution observed on May 14th.

 

HERVEPA

(6,107 posts)
16. And the subject of your post. You are not under obligation to put misleading in your heading.
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 01:30 PM
Mar 2016

You could quote it in the body. But of course you knew that.

Hiraeth

(4,805 posts)
9. excuse me, George
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 12:00 PM
Mar 2016

I absolutely refuse to accept that analogy that in order to be a grown-up one must have an "insurmountable delegate lead".

It does not stand on the face of it.

What does that make you and all of us who do not seek the public office of presidency?

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
62. Yeah. Clooney seems to be leaving Sanders out of it...
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 02:49 PM
Mar 2016

...which is slightly premature, maybe, but in context I could agree.

 

2pooped2pop

(5,420 posts)
15. Darn, on the bus clooney
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 12:25 PM
Mar 2016

Will be pushing it over the cliff soon and there is a seat for you. Too bad, but ya gots ta go.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
17. ''Grown Up'' as ''Won't Raise My Tax Bill''?
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 01:34 PM
Mar 2016


Drunk, rich, and tanned is a great way to go through life, son.
 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
37. oooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...There's plenty of tantrums in the center
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 03:41 PM
Mar 2016

and as has been noted several times in this thread, Clooney was not attacking Sanders. In fact he praised him.

He is making the "pragmatic choice" but jnot attacking sanders.

Donald Ian Rankin

(13,598 posts)
23. She's the only candidate on either side, except possibly O'Malley, whose numbers add up.
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 02:58 PM
Mar 2016

All of the Republicans, and Sanders, have released tax and spending plans that are pure unicorns-and-ponies fantasies.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
40. "The numbers" seldom add up at first
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 05:56 PM
Mar 2016

I can imagine if DU were around during the struggles to start Medicare there'd be a lot of people here calling that a pony too.

Funny though somehow that didn't matter when we went to war in Iraq...Somehow the money would magically appear.

Donald Ian Rankin

(13,598 posts)
60. Professional mathematician here.
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 02:01 PM
Mar 2016

My thesis was on majorisation ordering of probability measures invariant under transformations of the unit interval. You?

Pretty much all the neutral analysis of Sanders tax and spending plans out there agrees that they're grossly overoptimistic. I choose not to ignore that evidence; you're welcome to do so if you wish.

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
52. None of the Bernie supporters are slamming Clooney.
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 02:33 AM
Mar 2016

Why, you ask? Because the OP's title is a lie and Clooney never said such a thing about Bernie.

Unless you are mistaken about where you are, and don't realize this is not Free Republic, where criticism of The Donald is verboten?

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
33. As others have noted. Clooney was not slamming Bernie. Au contraire....
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 03:34 PM
Mar 2016
http://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/271660-george-clooney-trump-just-an-opportunist

But Clooney also expresses admiration for Clinton’s Democratic primary rival: “I really love Bernie Sanders, and am really glad he is in the debate. He is forcing the conversation to things that never get talked about in U.S. politics: disparity between the rich and the poor, which is getting worse and worse every day.”


I disagree with Clooney's choice but at least be honest about the context.
 

blueintelligentsia

(507 posts)
38. And we should all try his new Mezcal...
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 04:29 PM
Mar 2016

While under the bus of course...<a href="http://imgur.com/53b5oPQ"><img src="" title="source: imgur.com" /></a> <a href="http://imgur.com/Skh5dZD"><img src="" title="source: imgur.com" /></a>

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
42. I'm sorry, but THIS is Mezcal.
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 09:33 PM
Mar 2016
http://delmaguey.com/

I'm doubting a guy who throws shrieking tantrums on TV sound stages and movie sets is capable of making stuff anywhere near as good. Not that he has the slightest involvement other than his name...

Buy the Pechuga. It's the best Mezcal I've ever known.

Juicy_Bellows

(2,427 posts)
48. Yowza! That's expensive and my interest piqued.
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 02:24 AM
Mar 2016

Cheers!

Edit - got a recommendation on something a little more friendly on the wallet?

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
64. Well I normally limit myself to Patron but when I want Mezcal there is no substitute.
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 02:54 PM
Mar 2016

100 proof smoky goodness. Two or three shots (sipped of course, not downed) and you start to feel like you're walking on marshmallows.

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
41. He throws shrieking tantrums in restaurants and on sets of movie/TV shows.
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 08:37 PM
Mar 2016

He's your arbiter of who's an adult and who isn't?

greyl

(22,990 posts)
44. In context, Clooney is saying 'only grown-up in a room without Bernie'.
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 12:33 AM
Mar 2016

George was talking about a possible(to him, likely) future scenario where Bernie concedes, drops out, and leaves Hillary to be the only grown-up in the room full of one or more Republican presidential candidates. He was dissing every single one of the Republican candidates, not Bernie.

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
54. George was not slamming Bernie, he was slamming the Republicans.
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 02:37 AM
Mar 2016

If you read past the title you would see that, readily:


“The truth is,” Clooney wrote, “that the only thing that would prevent America from being great would be to empower these voices."

The 54-year-old Academy Award winner continued, saying, “As this primary process continues, Hillary could soon have an insurmountable delegate lead and with that, the Democratic nomination. That would then make her the only grown-up in the room.

“And if ever there was a time for a grown-up,” the longtime Democrat added, “that time is now.”


Seems some do not wish to read, though. Ah well.

LibDemAlways

(15,139 posts)
57. Clooney is a big Clinton supporter. Her campaign
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 03:16 AM
Mar 2016

is sponsoring a contest which showed up on my Facebook wall tonight. If you fork over your name and email address, you can be entered into a contest for the chance to attend Clooney's Hillary fundraiser at his LA house.

The comments that this FB post have already generated are overwhelmingly negative, calling it a ploy to collect e-mail addresses, and the fundraiser itself an event where the "winner" will likely be ignored and treated like the help. One media report indicates that the price of admission to this shindig is $30k per person, so it's a sure bet that characterization isn't too far off the mark.

This reminds me of something that happened to my brother years ago when Gray Davis was running for governor of California. My brother was working for an insurance company and was involved in settling a homeowner's claim for a man who was a prominent Democratic Party fundraiser. He took an interest in photos displayed in the man's home showing him posing with many party bigwigs. Out of the blue, the maninvited my brother to attend a fundraising reception for Gray Davis, and he accepted with the caveat that he would not be required to make a contribution. He was barely scraping by at the time as a claim's adjuster. The day of the event, my brother was standing off to the side watching the parade of wealthy donors. Davis spotted him, walked over, and said something like, "I don't believe we've met." My brother, who was a little flustered, explained his business relationship with the host and added that even though he was unable to contribute monetarily to the campaign, he would certainly vote for the candidate. Davis was not impressed. He turned on his heel and walked away without another word. Feeling very awkward and out of place, my brother quietly made an exit. As George Carlin reminded us in that famous routine, it's a club and we ain't in it.

Mike__M

(1,052 posts)
58. So the opinion of this actor matters
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 03:27 AM
Mar 2016

more than that of, say Scott Baio or Danny Devito because . . .
. . . he emotes better on screen?
. . . he has a better agent?
. . . he looks more like a governor of California?
. . . someone liked his show more?
. . . if he said "I'm not a real doctor, but I play one on T.V.," suckers would buy his snake oil?


Sorry. This kid's opinion is much more valuable to me:

EndElectoral

(4,213 posts)
63. This is the first election I've heard this term. It is condescending and implies people with
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 02:52 PM
Mar 2016

differing visions are childish. It implies we are the "grown ups" and that only we know the answers.

Let's get rid of this parent-child relationship baloney. We're all people with differing ideas, and we're all of voting age. But condescension is a very unappealing character trait. (Yes, even for a grown-up)

 

idic5

(5 posts)
65. Clinton is the immature one, and Bernie the responsible adult in the room
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 01:05 PM
Mar 2016

Clooney is the guy who calls CLinton the 'adult in the room' - HAH! she is the shortsighted , immature and irresponsible one . SHe completely ignores the coming Social security crisis (0) (it is plain childish to think that 2034 is too far away); her energy policy is 'just plain silly' says preeminent climate scientist Dr. James E. Hansen (1) - we need bold far sighted leadership and not someone whose MO is 'pay for play' and that it about it. We need an adult in the room , yes, and that is clearly Bernie Sanders. (3)

EDIT
If one looks into Global warming , one does not simply fix it w/ a stroke of the pen (which we can do theoretically with our nat'l debt) as it is physics, and physics > politics (sorry , Politico)

As it has been said by former SEattle mayor in his letter to Harvard to divest itself from FF (1) ....
“We're the first generation to see the effects of climate change, and the last generation who can do anything about it,”

This means looking ahead to times where most if not all of us will not be here, and this is the quintessence of acting like an adult - to act responsibly to leave the world a better place for our kids.

Pay for play, getting millions for Wall st speeches , are all child's play

'This Is What Global Warming Looks Like
Tuesday Jul 07, 2015 ·'
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/07/07/1399794/-This-Is-What-Global-Warming-Looks-Like

....

(0)
http://thehill.com/policy/finance/248816-social-security-projected-to-hit-insolvency-by-2034

(1)
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jul/29/hillary-clinton-climate-change-plan

(2)
http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2013/10/23/seattle-mayor-addresses-harvard-divestment/

(3)
'Bernie Brief: Social Security'

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