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Just like the Marquette University one got more play than this NBC WI poll will.

I watch CNN and MSNBC I never see a PPP poll reference. For that matter I don't see Rass polls referenced either. All media outlets have lists of approved pollsters they are allowed to cite.

The MSNBC polls use better methodologies? I'm worried about the ppp Iowa poll since they said yesterday that Colorado's poll was more favorable for Obama than NH and IA. PPP Colorado poll only has Obama up by 3, so what does that mean? That NH and IA or tied or a small Romney lead even? Urggghhhh

likely voters, registered voters or the already voted?

It may just mean that the lead for Obama is smaller.

PPP likes sending out these teasing Tweets.

I'm getting just a bit frustrated with these PPP teasers.

The other polls have shown Obama around (+3) in Iowa on average, so that's probably what PPP will find too.

This is why, I am cautiously confident regardless of what the MSM says. With early voting, Obama is doing quite well in Ohio and Iowa.

Dad was President of his Local of the Communications Workers of America. Mom, Dad, Daughter, Niece, Niece's fiancee all libs. 4 of 5 have early voted. (Get with it, bumette jr.!)

Brother (right leaning ind.), Son (security right, also blames O for more regulation around mortgage loan origination business), daughter-in-law (bankers daughter R) all lean right. So far none have voted.

FWIW.

edit to add: Even though I moved to CA, they all live in IA.

PPP made it quite clear that they found Obama to be performing better in Colorado than IA or NH.

is how there is almost a sense of gloating about the good Romney numbers. They're pretty much not even trying to hide the fact that they want to dictate the narrative anymore.

And unprofessional.

You're right -- it seems like they're trying to drive the right-wing narrative recently.

I wish Marist would Poll North Carolina because I'm getting tired of these Republican Pollsters. I haven't voted yet and haven't seen a Romney supporter yet. All I see are Obama signs. I heard Rick Santorum was in North Carolina today begging for votes. He needs to go back to Pennsylvania.

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PPP is a democratic leaning poll. I'm fond of PPP. I despise Rasmussen.

PPP was fairly accurate in a lot of their state polls in 2008, unlike Rasmussen. They usually add those that have already voted in their poll which is something I love about them.

The NBC/WSJ/Marist has Obama with an 8 point lead; I'm thinking PPP will have Obama with a 5-7 point lead.

I can't compare Iowa for 2008 because PPP didn't poll in Iowa in 2008 at least I couldn't find it, but I did find Indiana, Florida and North Carolina.

PPP was dead on in Indiana and that was outstanding because even the RCP average screwed up Indiana.


PPP was insanely close in Florida and North Carolina.



http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/in/indiana_mccain_vs_obama-604.html#polls

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/fl/florida_mccain_vs_obama-418.html#polls

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/nc/north_carolina_mccain_vs_obama-334.html#polls

A one or two point swing ain't 'a whole lot better'. My guess is they have either Romney and Obama tied or Romney with a slight lead.

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However, their last teaser said about the same thing, and that poll turned out to be way better than most expected.

The folks that are crowding the early voting in Iowa and other places are NOT considering "likely voters" by people like PPP and others.

They are really getting ridiculous. Romney fucking TANKED in the debates.

is really unprofessional. Their nasty little teaser tweets lately have been pathetic.

I mean, WTF?

They are f**king with people! They have bills to pay and more traffic means more money.

However, I still like PPP polls.

They are trying to gain attention by sensationalizing their findings.

Just curious, but someone said O is kicking butt in early voting in Ohio and Iowa, but how does anyone know this? Is there some type of list of what party has submitted the most votes?

has data?

PPP has been pretty good, but I have noticed their percentage for Black voters are unusually higher than other Polls for Romney. I'm an African American in North Carolina. I have not met one for Romney? Where do they live?

I suspect some whites are pretending to be African American so it will appear the president is doing worse among African Americans. I noticed the same thing in some Survey USA polls, who are also robocallers. I think this affects the subsamples more than the entire sample.

How messed up and childish are Republicans.

3 or 4 would be fine.

In pissing in people's Wheaties...

Seems unprofessional to me...and they are prejudging the results of a poll still being conducted...

Is this a three-day poll? Night of the debate, night after and then tonight? If so, what if tonight is better for O? Will they backtrack like with their Ohio that they teased too early?

I've liked PPP but yea, the tweets are just annoying.

Strange.

Yeah, 3 points is better than 8 I guess.