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Related: About this forumNate Silver-Gallup Versus The World
Our regularly scheduled forecast update for Wednesday slipped through the cracks. The FiveThirtyEight forecast was not much changed based on Wednesdays polls, however, with Barack Obamas chances of winning the Electoral College increasing incrementally to 65.7 percent from 64.8 percent.
Well catch up with Thursdays polls with the next update. In the meantime, Im going to focus on one particular survey, the Gallup national tracking poll.
The Gallup national tracking poll now shows a very strong lead for Mitt Romney. As of Wednesday, he was ahead by six points among likely voters. Mr. Romneys advantage grew further, to seven points, when Gallup updated its numbers on Thursday afternoon.
The Gallup poll is accounted for in the forecast model, along with all other state and national surveys.
However, its results are deeply inconsistent with the results that other polling firms are showing in the presidential race, and the Gallup poll has a history of performing very poorly when that is the case.
Well catch up with Thursdays polls with the next update. In the meantime, Im going to focus on one particular survey, the Gallup national tracking poll.
The Gallup national tracking poll now shows a very strong lead for Mitt Romney. As of Wednesday, he was ahead by six points among likely voters. Mr. Romneys advantage grew further, to seven points, when Gallup updated its numbers on Thursday afternoon.
The Gallup poll is accounted for in the forecast model, along with all other state and national surveys.
However, its results are deeply inconsistent with the results that other polling firms are showing in the presidential race, and the Gallup poll has a history of performing very poorly when that is the case.
http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/10/18/gallup-vs-the-world/#more-36284
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Nate Silver-Gallup Versus The World (Original Post)
DemocratSinceBirth
Oct 2012
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AJH032
(1,124 posts)1. If the Gallup poll is wrong
and it is included in the forecast model, then perhaps Obama's odds of winning the electoral college are actually even higher than 65.7%.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)10. Possibly
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TroyD
(4,551 posts)2. Quote by Nate:
Nate Silver: "Its much more likely that Gallup is wrong and everyone else is right than the other way around."
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)4. Great Minds Think Alike
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251150723
Either they are right or almost every other national and state pollster is wrong.
TroyD
(4,551 posts)5. I see . . .
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)6. He Is Probably Cribbing My Posts
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RobertSeattle
(10,896 posts)3. Breaking - Gallup predicting Yankees to win ALCS...
politicaljack78
(312 posts)8. HAHAHAHA ! AWESOME !!! n/t
RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)9. They already lost! n/t
politicaljack78
(312 posts)7. Gallup is to real polling numbers what Romney is to Reality.
In mathematics they call it the empty set or undefined, it cannot be. Now what both Romney and Gallup have in common in this context is lack of facts.