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powergirl

(2,393 posts)
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 08:37 PM Oct 2012

If one poll produces results that are at odds with nine others - that one poll is probably off

So, everyone - we are gonna get there. Just hang on!


"WASHINGTON -- The already controversial Gallup Daily Poll raised even more eyebrows on Thursday with the release of daily tracking results showing Republican nominee Mitt Romney leading President Barack Obama by 7 percentage points (52 to 45 percent) among likely voters nationwide.

"The latest Gallup result was by far the most favorable to Romney among national polls released over the past week. Nine other organizations using a wide variety of different methodologies showed results ranging from a 4 percentage point lead for Romney lead to a 3 point advantage for Obama.



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"Before examining the Gallup Poll, it may be worth considering some general advice: If one poll produces results that are at odds with nine others -- for whatever reason and no matter who produced it -- that one poll is probably off.The most obvious answer is its likely voter model, which has helped produce large and seemingly inexplicable shifts and differences with other polls in the past.

"In 2000, for example, Gallup's daily tracking survey showed Republican nominee George W. Bush going from a 9 percentage point deficit against Democrat Al Gore to an 8 point lead in just three days following the first presidential debate. Other polls done at the same time also showed movement to Bush, but the average overall shift in the margin separating Bush and Gore was roughly 2 percentage points, not 17.

"A subsequent study by political scientists Bob Erikson, Costas Panagopolous and Chris Wlezien found that most of the shifts in 2000 were "not change due to voter conversion from one side to the other," but rather "shifts in the type of respondents who score as 'likely voters' or 'unlikely voters' from one period to the next."

"When Erikson and his colleagues examined the trends among all registered voters in Gallup's tracking polls for 2000, they found far more stability. "If the tracking poll had reported the preferences among registered voters," they wrote, "there would have been less evident change."

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"Ultimately, solving the mystery of Gallup's currently divergent result is difficult, particularly since it does not routinely disclose the demographic or attitudinal composition of its likely or registered voter samples. Gallup regularly publishes extensive data showing results among subgroups, but its tables show only the unweighted number of interviews in each subgroup, not the weighted values.

"Gallup's results are very different, at least for now, compared to most of the national polls, just as they were in 2010. The best advice may be what political scientist and blogger Jonathan Bernstein offered his readers: As "with every polling number," he wrote," "ignore it, and look at the polling averages."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/18/gallup-poll_n_1982004.html

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If one poll produces results that are at odds with nine others - that one poll is probably off (Original Post) powergirl Oct 2012 OP
What Gallup Is Doing JiminyJominy Oct 2012 #1
But what if it was reversed? davidn3600 Oct 2012 #2

JiminyJominy

(340 posts)
1. What Gallup Is Doing
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 08:39 PM
Oct 2012

is first off completely irresponsible.

secondly, they are so far off the other polls that either A) they are just trying to create a wow factor and will then bring the poll back to align with the others or B) trying to create real separation with other polls so they can say they were absolutely the most right when all is said and done.

i'm 99.9% sure they are doing A.

 

davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
2. But what if it was reversed?
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 08:44 PM
Oct 2012

What if the Gallup was showing Obama up by 7? Would we be celebrating or questioning its methodology?

Looking at that chart you posted in your op....it tells me this race is tied up. 5 polls show Obama leading, 5 polls show Romney leading.

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