[hr][font color="blue"][center]A ton of bricks, a ton of feathers, it's still gonna hurt.[/center][/font][hr]

A lot of folks spend their time here doing nothing but looking for reasons to be butthurt.

In the context of toxic DU Hillary supporter discourse.

after the convention.

Sanders will have very little if any success in this tactic. Super delegates and pledged delegates are party loyalists who will not flip bases on worthless match up polls. Sanders' policies and platform are toxic for down ballot candidates which is why Nancy Pelosi rejected this platform http://thehill.com/homenews/house/267236-pelosi-distances-dems-from-sanderss-plan-to-raise-taxes

the problems Trump has with the Republican Establishment. And both Establishments have been
losing large numbers of members. The Independents, on the other hand, are growing in size --
it has become larger than either of the two Major Parties. People finally are becoming fed up with
the feckless Establishments, and are leaving them. Enough is enough. This is also a part of the "math."

"Hillary is not a progressive"

fixed it for ya

Ugly.

Every time someone calls for Bernie to quit at halftime, he gets more money from me.

I've seen quite a few posts about that subject lately. Is that the new talking point?

How much does Podesta make from the ad sales? What is David Brock getting paid? How about Peter Daou over at the Blue Nation Review propaganda site?

Glass houses...

doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

Albert Einstein

Probably need to pace myself though, given the frequency of these desperate posts from HRC supporters.

If they've got fork signatures, we should have flop sweat ones. Need to work on that.

it kind of undercuts a major Sanders theme, the "my donors are little people giving small amounts of money".

No, they're not; they're actually just like any other donor, just donating in small chunks rather than all at once.

felt and genuine concern.

The longer Sanders stays in, the more chance that the next US president will have a lemming on his head.

But leftover money donated to his campaign will probably end up going on other progressive causes, so it won't be a complete waste.

I can certainly help out with this particular commitment of Bernie donors.


Bernie should drop out, save time, energy and donor money.

Those average contributions of $27 don't seem to have magically turned into golden delegates lately.

That's just a meme. <sarcasm>

With animals they often call it research.

And many of the posters who benefit from Skinner's "amnesty plan" are followers of Senator Sanders.

Seems it's mostly Hillary's Hounds that were released from Hell.*





*Note: Hounds of Hell is a metaphor and doesn't represent any one particular poster.

That's in another thread...

in, oh, say, never.

Some people are like that

Next time you feign ignorance over the multiple calls for Bernie to get out of the race.

Hell, the patient isn't even on life support.

But, boy howdy, do you Hillary fans want him to get out.

Pssttt: We're not going anywhere.

BTW, "Bernie or Bust" and/or "Bernie or Jill" isn't really blackmail since those voters don't give a rat's ass what you do with your corporate-owned war hawk criminal of a candidate.

and all of the efforts of this kind from those who share her less than flattering povs ain't gonna hide that

http://www.juancole.com/2016/03/hillary-clinton-goes-full-neocon-at-aipac-demonizes-iran-palestinians.html

it just makes you a neocon supporter

Hillary who claimed it was wrong to ask her to drop out in 08. Why is all of that different for Bernie, exactly? Why is he not allowed to pay people but Hillary can lavish the cash? What is your dog whistle here?

"fiscal conservatism".

--imm

I haven't seen or heard of anything of the sort.

Sounds like blackmail to me.

in which the voter pledges NOT to vote for Clinton.

Blackmail? You're playing awfully fast and loose with definitions.

If I was asked to sign that initiative I would refuse.

But, the mentioned threat of Hillary or Trump looks to me like much the same thing. I won't that either.

This is what they'll be saying after the convention maybe, and certainly in January when Hillary takes the oath of office.

One of the sharpest articles I've ever read on DU. Thanks.

The value of Bernie Sanders' campaign, and entire political career. I'm sorry because of what you are missing, along with all of the other voters who don't see the outstanding principles and vision that comes from the very core of what this nation was created for.

If you don't see it, there's little we can do to help other than describing the different worlds the politicians live in. It's obvious to many of us. Clearly, Trump isn't the American dream. Maybe not so clearly, Clinton is the American dream, tarnished. Sanders is the embodiment of the democratic experiment.

I simply said the campaign made serious and unrealistic miscalculations which doomed it.

"I'm sorry because of what you are missing, along with all of the other voters who don't see the outstanding principles and vision that comes from the very core of what this nation was created for. " <<< That is the job of the campaign to get the voters on board -- if it couldn't, it failed. It is that simple.

I'm amazed at how some Sandman supporters will just keep hammering the same tired talking points. As you said; no one gives a fuck about speech transcripts.

All you need to back up your post is this simple image:

Too cute by half.

I really, really don't want to live in your version of reality. Scary, skewed and confined it is.

Bash away.

...release those transcripts. Dumbest scandal of the year. We know Hillary said nice things about people paying. I don't like him suggesting she's "on the take" (quotes mine, not Bernie's). I like the early Bernie much better.

It's really hard to believe anybody tried to equate these two politicians.

Ignore is your friend.

He still won't be the nominee, I'm sure, but he managed to generate a very credible campaign and is so far earning about 40% of the vote. I expect that 60:40 ratio to pretty much maintain through the rest of the primary season, within a couple of percentage points.

What should be remembered from the 2016 Democratic primaries is that nobody is absolutely assured of the nomination.

I hope Bernie continues to serve in the Senate, for as long as he wishes. He can be of material help to the new Clinton administration in getting progressive measures through that body.

I think Bernie, having lost the Primary, will retire from his 25 years in Congress with his government pension and Social Security check intact and go home to Vermont, leaving the Dems to pick up the pieces of the Democratic Party (that he elected not to join, but chose to tarnish) and move forward in the Fall. I would have had more respect for Bernie had he spent that same energy getting his supporters in Congress to shore up the current social security system and pass a jobs program designed to rebuild our crumbling infrastructure system before embarking on any new, more grandiose spending program which was dead on arrival had he won the Presidency without his requisite (and more unlikely than not) Revolution in tow.

Yeh, yeh, yeh, I now Bernie had a plan for rebuilding our infrastructure, but that message was further down the line behind the Free College and Free universal health care, and wouldn't have ever seen the light of day either.

He has always been in the minority - the extreme minority. All the same he has been effective in introducing and passing amendments to bills that have helped many. I have nothing but respect for Bernie Sanders.

He will not be the Democratic nominee, but he showed that it is possible to challenge the status quo. That will be the lesson he has taught.

This nation has too many problems that need urgent attention, and this was not the year with a $19 trillion dollar deficit to be running on a platform of free college, free healthcare, and a doubling of the Social Security benefit payout, when anyone whose been paying attention over the last 8 years knows that there is no appetite in the current GOP dominated House and Senate for NEW entitlement programs, or the raising of taxes. It just wasn't going to happen. But in the meantime, you bloody up your primary opponent and sic your angry primary voters on her based on stuff that goes back 20 years, that no one cares about.

FTR, if voters cared about the truth, Trump wouldn't be leading the pack in the the GOP race. The only thing I agree with Bernie on is that Trump is a perpetual liar, and he lies about anything and everything. There is too much at stake in this election to hold Hillary to a higher standard than we've ever held any other previous candidate to. It's also wrong to hold her accountable for her husbands actions with other women where she was as much of a victim. The fact that they chose to stay together in spite of his infidelities is their business, not my business. I followed the Clintons throughout Bill Clinton's presidency and he was the first and only president who was ever hounded by a special prosecutor act with subpoena power his entire time in office with little to nothing to show for it. If every politician who lied about extramarital sex was subjected to the same processes that he faced, the halls of Congress, and legislative Houses across this nation would be empty.

BCCI, Iran Contra relevance: UAE, Saudi, Pakistan, money and Bush family (ProSense 10-7-2006 DU)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2870996

I thought the O/P was silly too, but eye-for-eye isn't a good strategy.

Sid

....Bernie's campaign was just like Obama's. We were bludgeoned with the timelines and charts that numbers for Hillary were on target for the same type of loss as in 2008.

No more accepting and chewing over the False Bernie memes. I am done. Enough already with those lies and falsehoods regarding the status of the campaigns. The op was spot on and has iterated the hell Bernie supporters have put so many Hillary supporters through.

The reality is a completely different path than the one the Bernie supporters attempt to create and even re-forge when reality is slapping them in the face.

Heh.

And, re the transcripts. Of course no one cares about them if they're hidden in a vault under lock and key. You can't care much about what you don't get to see. How do you suppose voters would feel about the speeches if they were released? How would they feel if they knew, as reported, that Hillary sympathized with the poor banksters and assured them we all caused the problem and we would all solve it? The poor, poor banksters. Taxpayers who could least afford it bailed them out and what did the banksters do? Gave themselves big bonuses. Yep. I guess it's just my imagination running wild to think people might be bothered by those quarter-of-a-million-dollar-a-pop, big wet kisses . . . er speeches . . . Hillary gave to Wall Street.

to happen in the next week - much less in the next few months...

on running commercial for Hillary and the 1%, and people are connecting the dots every second .

So how's the stock market doing?