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Solid Snake1

(95 posts)
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 11:55 PM Mar 2016

Its over

For Sanders to now make up his delegate deficit he must win by 65% or more in every single remaining state, even one marginal win puts his him mathematically out of the primaries.

I believe its now time for ALL Democrats to rally around our nominee and focus on keeping the White House and furthering the equality agenda.

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Its over (Original Post) Solid Snake1 Mar 2016 OP
hmm MadBadger Mar 2016 #1
Bullshit. BillZBubb Mar 2016 #2
Yeaaa, this will go over well. .... AgadorSparticus Mar 2016 #3
I'm not holding my nose and voting against my interests til Nov if I do astrophuss42 Mar 2016 #4
Please send a message to all those old prunes at the perpetual church of worn tires... MrMickeysMom Mar 2016 #5
Bullshit.. monmouth4 Mar 2016 #6
What's bullshit? nt Solid Snake1 Mar 2016 #7
Far from over, onto the convention and other states...n/t monmouth4 Mar 2016 #9
Sorry Solid Snake1 Mar 2016 #11
The Democratic party would find someone new if something bad happened Renew Deal Mar 2016 #13
Agreed -- it would probably be Biden obamanut2012 Mar 2016 #21
New York Alone Will Make that Number Go Way Up Stallion Mar 2016 #19
It was his state before it was her state. southerncrone Mar 2016 #54
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2016 #8
Thank you farleftlib Mar 2016 #10
In other words jcgoldie Mar 2016 #14
Fuck that. I will vote for the candidate that reflects my interests. Katashi_itto Mar 2016 #12
Lol, fuck that! Bernie needs to stay just to call our her faults! Change her! Nt Logical Mar 2016 #15
Overs workinclasszero Mar 2016 #16
Nope, he just needs to win by around 16 points jfern Mar 2016 #17
Is it July 25th already? farleftlib Mar 2016 #18
Bob sends this musical message: ucrdem Mar 2016 #20
Fuck that. Bernie all the way! snagglepuss Mar 2016 #22
Climate change and the sixth global mass-extinction event is happening now SoLeftIAmRight Mar 2016 #23
It's really "Titanic Underground" here -- bitter fighting over deck-chair arrangements.... villager Mar 2016 #52
May I ask catnhatnh Mar 2016 #24
Who the fuck am I? Solid Snake1 Mar 2016 #33
This thread be like... alcibiades_mystery Mar 2016 #25
Loverboy - When It's Over workinclasszero Mar 2016 #26
It doesn't matter what you believe. Except to you, of course. Punkingal Mar 2016 #27
As Brig. Gen. Anthony McAuliffe famously said: JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #28
Your math is wrong... k8conant Mar 2016 #29
1986 World Series, Boston Red Sox - New York Mets - Game 6 srobert Mar 2016 #30
well, I'll vote Democratic no matter what, but I love your post renate Mar 2016 #61
Don't dream it's over. Chan790 Mar 2016 #31
Arizona was theft NowSam Mar 2016 #32
Imho, those who vote for more republicans lovemydog Mar 2016 #34
Do feel free to leftynyc Mar 2016 #71
welcome to my ignore list NowSam Mar 2016 #72
So you have no answer to leftynyc Mar 2016 #73
really 58%, not sure why it's so popular to say 65% DLnyc Mar 2016 #35
Nope sorry pinebox Mar 2016 #36
Sanders won more delegates than Clinton, tonight. (nt) w4rma Mar 2016 #37
Only 4 more. Solid Snake1 Mar 2016 #40
I'm sorry. I think Arizona voters are STILL WAITING IN LINE TO VOTE. w4rma Mar 2016 #43
This kinda reminds me of a baseball game yuiyoshida Mar 2016 #38
lol Solid Snake1 Mar 2016 #39
That's your opinon yuiyoshida Mar 2016 #45
No Im not saying that Solid Snake1 Mar 2016 #47
You remind me of an arrogant Yankee fan... yuiyoshida Mar 2016 #49
How insulting Solid Snake1 Mar 2016 #50
I knew you had to be from NY yuiyoshida Mar 2016 #51
NJ Actually nt Solid Snake1 Mar 2016 #55
I hate the Gnats (Go A's)... RepubliCON-Watch Mar 2016 #53
Giants are my team! Love em and yuiyoshida Mar 2016 #56
Probably another Market St parade this year. RepubliCON-Watch Mar 2016 #57
Anything is possible yuiyoshida Mar 2016 #60
^this ^ Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #63
Not baseball or football where the possibilities of winning are wider uponit7771 Mar 2016 #67
Ok fine. Bernie will drop out & Hillary can get beat up by Trump full force for 9 months straight. jillan Mar 2016 #41
lol Solid Snake1 Mar 2016 #42
Then why can't she handle Sanders? What harm is it for him to stay in motivating new voters jillan Mar 2016 #44
Im not calling for him to drop out Solid Snake1 Mar 2016 #46
I don't think so pat_k Mar 2016 #48
We've been hearing that for months - and every time is turned out to be false alarm. Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #58
Ok Solid Snake1 Mar 2016 #59
I don't think margins and fraud are mutually exclusive. Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #62
wrong, 58% nt lakeguy Mar 2016 #64
Nope. Waiting For Everyman Mar 2016 #65
Your concern is noted. Welcome to DU. Enjoy your stay. n/t ms liberty Mar 2016 #66
Yeah, yeah. Shadowflash Mar 2016 #68
Nah. Jester Messiah Mar 2016 #69
Although you are correct, that's not going to happen. MoonRiver Mar 2016 #70
Not only is your number wrong, but the number has gone DOWN since yesterday... thesquanderer Mar 2016 #74

BillZBubb

(10,650 posts)
2. Bullshit.
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 11:57 PM
Mar 2016

Supporting Hillary doesn't further any equality agenda. If furthers Hillary's corporatist, 1% agenda.

 

Solid Snake1

(95 posts)
11. Sorry
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 12:03 AM
Mar 2016

But you are going to have to accept it. Realistically its not going to happen. Sanders winning 65% in every single remaining state. And LOL at the "indictment".

Renew Deal

(81,935 posts)
13. The Democratic party would find someone new if something bad happened
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 12:05 AM
Mar 2016

And it wouldn't be the 2nd place finisher in the primary

Stallion

(6,476 posts)
19. New York Alone Will Make that Number Go Way Up
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 12:08 AM
Mar 2016

because Sanders even if somehow beat her in her own state (not going to happen) will not get near 65% so he will be leaving a ton of votes on the table making the mountain much higher to climb

Response to Solid Snake1 (Original post)

 

farleftlib

(2,125 posts)
10. Thank you
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 12:02 AM
Mar 2016

It's unbelievable that it needs to be repeated ad infinitum but they really don't listen...

jcgoldie

(11,674 posts)
14. In other words
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 12:05 AM
Mar 2016

When millions more people vote for the other candidate... we should hope for a scandal or unicorns... good plan.

 

villager

(26,001 posts)
52. It's really "Titanic Underground" here -- bitter fighting over deck-chair arrangements....
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 03:42 AM
Mar 2016

...unless that is specifically, and immediately, addressed....

catnhatnh

(8,976 posts)
24. May I ask
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 12:28 AM
Mar 2016

Who the fuck are you? And why would any poster here for over a week give the slightest fucking weight to your posting?

 

Solid Snake1

(95 posts)
33. Who the fuck am I?
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 12:58 AM
Mar 2016

I'm a Democrat who has every fucking right to post here. Who the fuck are you? Im sorry your candidate lost but man up already.


Bernie supporters really are "Bernie's Babies".

Punkingal

(9,522 posts)
27. It doesn't matter what you believe. Except to you, of course.
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 12:33 AM
Mar 2016

I will rally when I feel like it, and for whomever I feel like rallying for.

k8conant

(3,030 posts)
29. Your math is wrong...
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 12:43 AM
Mar 2016

Maybe he needs 65% of the remaining delegates (I haven't recalculated). That hardly means a single marginal win is crucial.

IAC, to win by 65% or more means basically to get 82.5% or more of the vote.

 

srobert

(81 posts)
30. 1986 World Series, Boston Red Sox - New York Mets - Game 6
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 12:51 AM
Mar 2016

It was the 10th inning. The Sox were so far ahead that there was no realistic chance that they could lose. The bartender was a Boston girl. She kept saying "It's Over. That's it. It's Over, Just accept it, buddy. Your team lost!". I calmly persistently, and repeatedly asserted to her, "It's not over until the final out." Sox first baseman, Bill Buckner, bent down to scoop up an easy ground ball, which would have ended the game. But somehow he clumsily allowed ball to roll between his legs and suddenly the game was tied. The Mets won that game in extra innings and went on to win the series in game 7. The bartender had me evicted from the bar and accused me of witchcraft.
The moral: Never surrender and never give up until the final out.

Bernie should give every single voter in every primary the chance to vote for him. Even if he doesn't win, the numbers of people voting for him sends a HYUGE message to the Democratic party, that there are many of us who feel that the 3rd way has been the wrong way. And that if they expect to win future elections they will have to win us over. All "Democrats" can line up behind Hillary in November, if (and only if) she wins the nomination. But if that happens, I will no longer be a Democrat. If that happens, I'll be voting Green.

renate

(13,776 posts)
61. well, I'll vote Democratic no matter what, but I love your post
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 04:20 AM
Mar 2016

To be accurate, my state is almost certainly going blue, but I'd vote for Hillary if there was any chance it'd be close. I mean, please. President Trump?

What I love and admire about Bernie is that I am quite sure that he is not running out of the tiniest speck of ambition for himself. Unless he's had a massive personality change from everything he's done in the past 50+ years, I'm quite certain of that.

He's running because he believes in his message.

And he has already succeeded by challenging Hillary and pushing her to the left. He has already achieved SO MUCH just by being himself and by being tireless. And so have his supporters. We were all just waiting for someone to come along and FINALLY saying what he says.

So what you said is so true. Even if he doesn't win, the Democratic party has received a message loud and clear.

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
31. Don't dream it's over.
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 12:56 AM
Mar 2016


There is freedom within
there is freedom without
Try to catch a deluge in a paper cup
There's a battle ahead
many battles are lost
But you'll never see the end of the road
While you're traveling with me


We're not giving in until the bitter end...even if Hillary has a decisive delegate count, I hope we take this all the way to the convention.

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
34. Imho, those who vote for more republicans
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 01:21 AM
Mar 2016

and (to half the degree) those who sit out voting in November because there are state and congressional elections to boot out the ones who are engaging in gerrymandering and voter repression. Like the majority republican state legislature, governor and secretary of state of Arizona, whose disenfranchised people deserve far better.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
71. Do feel free to
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 09:02 AM
Mar 2016

explain how Hillary is responsible for what happened in Arizona and how you know that every single person waiting in those lines would have voted for Bernie. This should be good for a laugh.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
73. So you have no answer to
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 09:05 AM
Mar 2016

my very reasonable question and make the laughable attempt at hurting my feelings by putting me on ignore. How pathetically predictable.

DLnyc

(2,479 posts)
35. really 58%, not sure why it's so popular to say 65%
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 01:23 AM
Mar 2016

I would be interested to know where you get that figure. I get 58%:

Current numbers on RCP, taking 56 of tonight's 75 delegates in Arizona into account give:

Hillary: 1159 pledged, so 2026 - 1159 = 867 to go
Bernie: 829 pledged, so 2026 - 829 = 1197 to go

since there are 4051 - (1159 + 829) = 2063 pledged left to be allocated,

Hillary needs 867/2063 = 42%
Bernie needs 1197/2063 = 58%

Of course, this is before Utah and Idaho have come in, as well as the full allocation in Arizona

 

w4rma

(31,700 posts)
43. I'm sorry. I think Arizona voters are STILL WAITING IN LINE TO VOTE.
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 03:24 AM
Mar 2016

Try not to count the chickens before they hatch.

yuiyoshida

(41,883 posts)
38. This kinda reminds me of a baseball game
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 03:16 AM
Mar 2016

Its the 8th inning, fans are filing out of the stadium and they are pissed the team lost, but guess what? While they are out in their cars, their team gets a man on base, and then another, and than another, and runs comes in, now the bases are loaded, wham! Grand Slam Home Run... suddenly their team wins...


God I miss baseball!!!

yuiyoshida

(41,883 posts)
45. That's your opinon
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 03:28 AM
Mar 2016

ARE YOU saying that the state of California with nearly 500 plus delegates should just give up and the voters not vote? Maybe you think its a waste of time for the other states to vote, but we won't stand for it...we WANT our say.. I WANT to vote, damn it. No one is giving up..no one is going home, and ITS not over, by a long shot.

 

Solid Snake1

(95 posts)
47. No Im not saying that
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 03:33 AM
Mar 2016

But you seem to think Bernie will get all of CAs delegates, he likely won't even win 45% of them.

yuiyoshida

(41,883 posts)
49. You remind me of an arrogant Yankee fan...
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 03:38 AM
Mar 2016

"They will win all their games this year, no team will beat them, they may as well hand the world series trophy over to the Yankees right now before the season starts, cause no team is good enough to beat them. All the other teams should just lay down their bats and go home, cause the Yankees will beat them every time..and not by a little margin, no it will be a HUUUUGE slaughter... Yankees 50..other team zero..like that .. "

yuiyoshida

(41,883 posts)
56. Giants are my team! Love em and
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 03:47 AM
Mar 2016

can't wait for Spring Training games to start on the radio, (in Arizona, no less!) and for Opening day at AT&T Park!

jillan

(39,451 posts)
41. Ok fine. Bernie will drop out & Hillary can get beat up by Trump full force for 9 months straight.
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 03:23 AM
Mar 2016

Great plan.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
44. Then why can't she handle Sanders? What harm is it for him to stay in motivating new voters
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 03:25 AM
Mar 2016

to get out and vote?

 

Solid Snake1

(95 posts)
46. Im not calling for him to drop out
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 03:29 AM
Mar 2016

But its over, the the only thing to be determined is by how wide of a margin Clinton wins. Also will you be screaming fraud when she wins NY by 40 points?

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
58. We've been hearing that for months - and every time is turned out to be false alarm.
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 03:50 AM
Mar 2016

Oh by the way: as it isn't over yet (again), there is still no nominee to rally around.

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
62. I don't think margins and fraud are mutually exclusive.
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 04:24 AM
Mar 2016

But I agree that there has been way too much appearance of fraud in these primaries, and strangely all of it benefitted Clinton.

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
70. Although you are correct, that's not going to happen.
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 08:52 AM
Mar 2016

As long as he has money, Bernie is staying in. His ego is that big.

thesquanderer

(12,018 posts)
74. Not only is your number wrong, but the number has gone DOWN since yesterday...
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 09:11 AM
Mar 2016

...since it seems he won more delegates than she did yesterday.

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