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Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 08:07 AM Mar 2016

Most progressive independents would be Dems if our party just made them welcome.

Last edited Thu Mar 24, 2016, 08:53 AM - Edit history (2)

And if our party did what it is supposed to and took their concerns seriously.

If we were a party that stood unambiguously with the powerless against the powerful, for a generally peaceful approach to the world instead of perpetual military intervention, for easily affordable higher education for all as a good in its own right, for a real effort to address the climate crisis, and for an economic model that gave everyone a decent share of the wealth and something of a say in how that wealth is to be used, progressive independents would naturally support and work for this party.

And we wouldn't lose the votes of anyone who supports us now. We gained no blocs of voters when we drove idealists and activists away in the Nineties.

Those independents are only "independents" because of our pointless obsession with appealing to a "center" that doesn't really exist.

Yes, a lot of people label themselves "centrist", but when you get past the self-labeling and look at the actual ideas they support, the vast majority clearly back a strong program of progressive change. We should base our policies on what people support, not on what they describe themselves as.

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Most progressive independents would be Dems if our party just made them welcome. (Original Post) Ken Burch Mar 2016 OP
What purpose does a center serve if it keeps moving? hereforthevoting Mar 2016 #1
The party, at this point, really only wants their votes and donations. djean111 Mar 2016 #2
As this primary campaign has shown, the Clinton/DWS/Turd Way supporters not only don't Doctor_J Mar 2016 #3
As I remember, we were referred to as a VulgarPoet Mar 2016 #4
This is a good argument for not going socialist. DanTex Mar 2016 #5
There's no idea in that OP you'd have any real reason to object to. Ken Burch Mar 2016 #6
 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
2. The party, at this point, really only wants their votes and donations.
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 08:49 AM
Mar 2016

It is folly to think that "welcome" would mean anything more than that. Welcome, and STFU, is more like it.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
3. As this primary campaign has shown, the Clinton/DWS/Turd Way supporters not only don't
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 11:55 AM
Mar 2016
want liberals in the party, they actually hate them, much like the limbeciles do.

VulgarPoet

(2,872 posts)
4. As I remember, we were referred to as a
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 01:44 PM
Mar 2016

"left-wing Tea Party". To that, I have nothing but a hearty flurry of expletives and a raised fist, steepled by my middle finger to anyone who agreed with that statement, because it has become apparent that the Third Way apparently does not need us...

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