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pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 09:41 AM Mar 2016

We aren't as stupid as they think


We progressives proved to the establishment that we were listening when Obama ran. We heard him and chose him over the establishment candidate.

And now, we are showing them that we are not only listening but DISCRIMINATING now with Bernie running.

From a 4% in national polling against Hillary, to today where he tied her.
They have thrown everything at him and ignored him and swift boated him. . . but we keep coming.

And he STILL beats every GOP candidate in the head to head polls but MUCH LARGER margins than Hillary. And she doesn't beat them all in the head to head polls. And he is OUTRAISING her in donations.

We keep coming. . . . this is the rising tide that will lift ALL boats.

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We aren't as stupid as they think (Original Post) pdsimdars Mar 2016 OP
And the fairy tale continues ...... cosmicone Mar 2016 #1
Well, we sure know the annointed oligarch herself won't be fighting against the plutocracy.. mountain grammy Mar 2016 #2
"Never ever ", "Pie in the Sky", "No You Can't" "Me Me Me" bahrbearian Mar 2016 #3
lol, I literally heard Bernie stumble bumble through a question about what a "revolution" R B Garr Mar 2016 #5
Still not as good as Hillary bumbling the question about lying revbones Mar 2016 #9
Anti-Hillary spam is not the answer to everything. R B Garr Mar 2016 #12
No, but your hypocrisy makes your anti-Bernie spam look juvenile revbones Mar 2016 #13
What looks juvenile is your inability to accept R B Garr Mar 2016 #14
Hillary couldn't even say she wouldn't lie. revbones Mar 2016 #16
This has nothing to do with Hillary. Nothing. R B Garr Mar 2016 #18
And your comment wasn't "spam"? revbones Mar 2016 #19
Hillary wasn't there. What's telling is that you R B Garr Mar 2016 #21
I still see you deflect and avoid her being unable to say she wouldn't lie revbones Mar 2016 #22
Not engaging your obvious bullshit is hardly R B Garr Mar 2016 #23
Sure. If that's all you have to reply revbones Mar 2016 #25
This is such a worn out tactic. Ugh. R B Garr Mar 2016 #28
I understood him perfectly - he is going to pinpoint congressional votes kristopher Mar 2016 #34
Sorry you are not able to appreciate a good metaphor Armstead Mar 2016 #17
Wow, you didn't see the interview if you characterize R B Garr Mar 2016 #20
yeah whatever....Just keep denigrating the idea of participatory democracy Armstead Mar 2016 #24
Good Lord, and I've participated myself. R B Garr Mar 2016 #27
I did see the whole interview Armstead Mar 2016 #29
It's the new poll showed on Real Clear Politics, not a fairy tale. Ken Burch Mar 2016 #6
And you mock the struggle of the lower 99%. The hubris of the 1% rhett o rick Mar 2016 #8
Problem is, a lot of people seem to like their not-so-gilded cages. nt revbones Mar 2016 #10
The only fairy tale is Hillary becoming president. basselope Mar 2016 #31
Bill Clinton on Obama 08 "Give me a break This whole thing is the biggest fairy tale I’ve ever seen" Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #35
Then there is this, the true headline, Sanders wins 3 Clinton only 1 and sanders is gaining delgates Dragonfli Mar 2016 #4
Clearly all they have to slow us is a fake media, and voter suppression. Gregorian Mar 2016 #7
Obviously not all boats lift since Sanders' campaign is sinking. randome Mar 2016 #11
He just passed Hillary in the national polls. Wonder whose campaign is the one that is sinking. pdsimdars Mar 2016 #15
he has a 1 point lead in a single poll with a 5.6% margin of error CreekDog Mar 2016 #26
National polls mean nothing until nominees are chosen. randome Mar 2016 #30
Stupid? Nah Rebkeh Mar 2016 #32
I think the most amazing thing was after Hillary swept those 5 states last week & the msm jillan Mar 2016 #33
 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
1. And the fairy tale continues ......
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 09:46 AM
Mar 2016

"Then the princess looked out the window and saw the handsome prince riding on a white horse as she waited for the dragon created by billionaires, wall street and oligarchs to be slayed......"

mountain grammy

(26,642 posts)
2. Well, we sure know the annointed oligarch herself won't be fighting against the plutocracy..
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 09:50 AM
Mar 2016

but I guess that's your preferred form of government.

R B Garr

(16,967 posts)
5. lol, I literally heard Bernie stumble bumble through a question about what a "revolution"
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 09:58 AM
Mar 2016

looks like, and he mumbled it's when you look out the window and see a lot of people.

LOL, that seriously was his answer to a Chris Matthews' question about how his vision will play out in Washington if/when Sanders took office and had to persuade others to his viewpoints. I laughed.

 

revbones

(3,660 posts)
9. Still not as good as Hillary bumbling the question about lying
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 11:07 AM
Mar 2016

Where she couldn't even say she wouldn't lie.

R B Garr

(16,967 posts)
12. Anti-Hillary spam is not the answer to everything.
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 11:15 AM
Mar 2016

She was nowhere around when Bernie couldn't even answer a basic question about how he envisioned a "revolution". Some things are actually Bernie's responsibility to articulate. Hillary hate can't get him through everything.

 

revbones

(3,660 posts)
13. No, but your hypocrisy makes your anti-Bernie spam look juvenile
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 11:26 AM
Mar 2016

She couldn't even say she wouldn't lie - Bernie was nowhere around, and that was on her own.

R B Garr

(16,967 posts)
14. What looks juvenile is your inability to accept
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 11:30 AM
Mar 2016

that Bernie couldn't even articulate his vision of a "revolution".

Hillary had nothing to do with that.

Jury, I only said "juvenile" in response to the previous post which used the same word. Thank you.

 

revbones

(3,660 posts)
16. Hillary couldn't even say she wouldn't lie.
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 11:50 AM
Mar 2016

I'd think there's a big difference between your not liking his explanation and Hillary being unable to say she wouldn't lie.

R B Garr

(16,967 posts)
18. This has nothing to do with Hillary. Nothing.
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 12:22 PM
Mar 2016

She wasn't there. Bernie is a lifelong politician and is responsible for himself. How desperate to spam about Hillary.

 

revbones

(3,660 posts)
19. And your comment wasn't "spam"?
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 12:23 PM
Mar 2016

You are either joking, or perhaps have some issues.

You attempted to throw some dirt around in this thread, and I compared your comment to Hillary's inability to even say she would not lie.

Your inability to deal with that is rather telling.

R B Garr

(16,967 posts)
21. Hillary wasn't there. What's telling is that you
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 12:30 PM
Mar 2016

Obviously didn't see the interview with Matthews and Sanders, but your only comment is some mumbo jumbo about Hillary.

Hillary wasn't there. Bernie is responsible for himself.

 

revbones

(3,660 posts)
22. I still see you deflect and avoid her being unable to say she wouldn't lie
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 12:32 PM
Mar 2016

You commented about something Bernie said in the context of him stumbling. I replied with something Hillary said in a similar context.

I'm sorry you can't see the logic there.

R B Garr

(16,967 posts)
23. Not engaging your obvious bullshit is hardly
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 12:36 PM
Mar 2016

"deflecting". You mentioned some bizarre tangential cryptic "lie" and "Hillary" and expect me to go chasing after that bullshit. Hilarious!

Oh, and welcome to DU!

 

revbones

(3,660 posts)
25. Sure. If that's all you have to reply
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 12:37 PM
Mar 2016

Insults and deflection.

Doesn't change that you mentioned a candidate stumbling and I mentioned their opposition stumbling worse. Context matters.

R B Garr

(16,967 posts)
28. This is such a worn out tactic. Ugh.
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 12:43 PM
Mar 2016

You harass me with inane so-called gotcha bullshit. Hillary wasn't there. Hillary wasn't there. Hillary wasn't there.

kristopher

(29,798 posts)
34. I understood him perfectly - he is going to pinpoint congressional votes
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 02:20 PM
Mar 2016

...that matter and ask for mass demonstrations on the day of the votes.

"There are none so blind as those who will not see."

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
17. Sorry you are not able to appreciate a good metaphor
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 11:53 AM
Mar 2016

But, yes the hordes outside the window is one reason we're not still in Vietnam, and we actually passed Civil Rights legislation.

R B Garr

(16,967 posts)
20. Wow, you didn't see the interview if you characterize
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 12:26 PM
Mar 2016

that as a good metaphor.

And how ridiculous to suggest a lifelong politician ensconsed in a cushy Senator seat is responsible for Vietnam and Civil Rights! Bernie's whole schtick is just glorified Occupy Wall Street. Even THAT wasn't his idea -- he copied that, too.

R B Garr

(16,967 posts)
27. Good Lord, and I've participated myself.
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 12:41 PM
Mar 2016

Haven't we all?! Harassing people on the internet is hardly Participatory democracy. If you saw the interview, you would see that, for all his glib talking points, when pinned down, he obviously had not thought things through. It was a big red flag that he is more talk than anything.

Thanks for your polite response, though. Always appreciated.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
29. I did see the whole interview
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 12:46 PM
Mar 2016

I interpreted it differently. I was impressed. We all see things through our own filters I guess.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
8. And you mock the struggle of the lower 99%. The hubris of the 1%
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 10:22 AM
Mar 2016

will be their downfall. They might love wealth but the wealth doesn't love them back.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
35. Bill Clinton on Obama 08 "Give me a break This whole thing is the biggest fairy tale I’ve ever seen"
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 03:41 PM
Mar 2016



Recycle, lather rinse repeat.....Every year the opposition is a fairy tale......get new tropes!!!!
 

randome

(34,845 posts)
11. Obviously not all boats lift since Sanders' campaign is sinking.
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 11:11 AM
Mar 2016

Sure, he could still pull out a win. It's just barely possible, mathematically. But there comes a time when there's nothing to be gained by all this energy expended trying to 'convince' us of Sanders' rise. If the voters who are voting for Clinton need to be convinced of this, then obviously the message isn't getting out.
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pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
15. He just passed Hillary in the national polls. Wonder whose campaign is the one that is sinking.
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 11:39 AM
Mar 2016

Obviously his message IS getting out. And UNFORTUNATELY for her, her message is too. People are finding out who Bernie is and also remembering who she is. Ooops!

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
26. he has a 1 point lead in a single poll with a 5.6% margin of error
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 12:37 PM
Mar 2016

when you say "polls" you're incorrect.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
30. National polls mean nothing until nominees are chosen.
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 12:47 PM
Mar 2016

They are especially meaningless when more people are voting for Clinton than for Sanders. This is OWS all over again -complete disregard for facts, no sense of organization, getting high on platitudes and nothing else. And just like OWS, Sanders will rise like the Sun and then sink quickly over the horizon again.

I hope that doesn't happen but since he has failed to unite politicians like himself in his decades of public service, I don't see how he can do so now.
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jillan

(39,451 posts)
33. I think the most amazing thing was after Hillary swept those 5 states last week & the msm
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 02:12 PM
Mar 2016

went on & on non-stop that Bernie needed to drop out.....

Then Bernie supporters immediately took over twitter for 24 hrs with the hastag #StillSanders and even tho it's not "trending" it still is going strong.

The MSM still talks about how hard it is for Bernie to win the delegates needed BUT they no longer talk about how he should drop out (overall). And the msm is also beginning to discuss how hard it might be for Hillary to win over the passionate Bernie supporters.

We are proving to them that we don't care what they say & we will fight back against them thru the use of social media.
We will not be silenced.

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