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FourScore

(9,704 posts)
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 01:00 PM Mar 2016

The real reason the Dem Establishment wants Bernie to get out of the Race

The real reason the Dem Establishment wants Bernie to get out of the Race.
By Auburn Parks
Wednesday Mar 23, 2016 · 9:54 AM EST

People love narratives. And the media love narratives. So lets compare two possible narratives going into the next Dem primary (either 2020 if HRC loses to Trump or 2024 if she becomes the president (keep in mind that these are political narratives, they are not necessarily true)

Narrative 1:

Bernie drops out of the race today after failing to win Arizona and gives an impassioned speech imploring his followers to vote for HRC in the primaries moving forward. Given HRC’s current lead in elected delegates of 58% to 42%, we could realistically expect her to further expand that margin in the back half of the primary to maybe 25% of elected delegates, throw in the superdelegates (15% of total delegates) and she ends up winning the nomination by about 40%.

In this scenario, the establishment will have the narrative that a progressive candidate is simply not viable in the next primary. And they will be able to point to the 40 pt blowout that Bernie suffered at the hands of HRC as evidence for why this narrative is self-evident. And sadly, a great many people will believe the narrative simply because they believe the authority figures that tell it. In a similar way that Bernie has been crushed by the false narrative that he is “radical” when his positions are right smack dab in the center of the 1960’s70’s Dem party platform (his policy positions are also supported by majorities when looking at the polling on Medicare for all, raising taxes on .1%, eliminating student debt servitude, reigning in Wall st, and investing in infrastructure). He’s also been hurt by the false narrative that HRC is more electable when no objective measures support that story. But again, truth is not the purpose of political narratives, politics is the purpose. So even though the narrative of progressive Dem candidates not being credible would be objectively false, the story would be easy to tell, and easy to believe if HRC wins the nomination by 40 pts. And this is exactly the story that Corporate Dem establishment would like to tell.

Now narrative 2:

Bernie stays in the race, fighting tooth and nail all the way til the convention and ends up losing the elected delegate count by 5%, throw in a more split superdelegate count (maybe 80-20) and HRC would end up winning the nomination by just 15%. In this scenario, the narrative would favor our progressive side and it would go a little something like this… HRC was the most well known Dem candidate in decades, had the most universal support of the establishment of any recent Dem candidate, had the largest and best funded organization of any Dem primary candidate. And even with all those hugely powerful elements in her corner, she still only managed to beat by 5 pts a largely unknown, self described socialist, old white Jew from uber-liberal snowy white Vermont.

In my mind, the political narrative possibilities of the two above scenarios are extremely powerful and important moving forward. And scenario 2 would be just as extremely unwelcome by the corporate Dem shills that support the status quo and HRC, as it would be a boon to progressives moving forward. And I think this is the primary reason why TPTB want Bernie to drop out of the race right now, its in their best interest interest moving forward.

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/3/23/1505246/-The-real-reason-the-Dem-Establishment-wants-Bernie-to-get-out-of-the-Race
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The real reason the Dem Establishment wants Bernie to get out of the Race (Original Post) FourScore Mar 2016 OP
Well said. Rebkeh Mar 2016 #1
The narrative needs to be that the Democratic voters LiberalFighter Mar 2016 #2
One of several reasons...if Bernie were gone, no more wall street talk for 5 mo.! ViseGrip Mar 2016 #3
You don't think Trump is going to hit her on her Wall Street ties? It's worse than that. He donated jillan Mar 2016 #7
"All of the US should participate in the election" mac56 Mar 2016 #11
Very well reasoned piece BernieforPres2016 Mar 2016 #4
Banned from Kos was banned here too on Jan 28, 2013 Fumesucker Mar 2016 #8
No. Kos bans those who attack Hillary. FourScore Mar 2016 #10
K&R for exposure. And for truth. eom Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #5
You nailed it. Scuba Mar 2016 #6
Always the nebulous 'Powers-that-be'. randome Mar 2016 #9

LiberalFighter

(51,020 posts)
2. The narrative needs to be that the Democratic voters
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 01:11 PM
Mar 2016

and the the rest of the country are more to the left than what we have been told.

 

ViseGrip

(3,133 posts)
3. One of several reasons...if Bernie were gone, no more wall street talk for 5 mo.!
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 01:13 PM
Mar 2016

Iraq war vote....on and on....for five more months!


All of the US should participate in the election, the final reason they want him out!

jillan

(39,451 posts)
7. You don't think Trump is going to hit her on her Wall Street ties? It's worse than that. He donated
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 01:22 PM
Mar 2016

to her. He'll talk about how easy it is to buy her.

You don't think he will go after her on her IWR vote? He has passionately spoke out against the Iraq war.

You can be certain to add to that her emails, which Bernie does not talk about, and which Trump has promised to hit her on every single day.
He will go after Bill, Libya, etc etc etc.

Please don't be so naive.

FourScore

(9,704 posts)
10. No. Kos bans those who attack Hillary.
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 01:45 PM
Mar 2016

Well-reasoned pieces for either candidate are still allowed. Or something like that.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
9. Always the nebulous 'Powers-that-be'.
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 01:34 PM
Mar 2016

That being said, I would have no problem if Sanders wants to stay in and help the Democratic party move further left. But that's not even the point of the article, it's just Clinton-bashing, hoping she will be 'injured' in the process.

That wouldn't be a 'boon' to anyone other than those who wish for self-destruction.

If Sanders wants to help, however, that's a different matter.
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