2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumCNN is still running their bullshit propaganda, citing Hillary's delegates without making a
distinction between won delegates and Super-delegates; which can switch depending on who wins the most elected delegates and don't come into play until the Convention.
Hillary's lead in won or pledged delegates is approximately 300 not 800.
CorporatistNation
(2,546 posts)http://www.rense.com/general37/char.htm
See # 6
Fourteen Defining
Characteristics Of Fascism
By Dr. Lawrence Britt
Source Free Inquiry.co
5-28-3
Dr. Lawrence Britt has examined the fascist regimes of Hitler (Germany), Mussolini (Italy), Franco (Spain), Suharto (Indonesia) and several Latin American regimes. Britt found 14 defining characteristics common to each:
1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism - Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.
2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights - Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.
3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause - The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.
4. Supremacy of the Military - Even when there are widespread
domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.
5. Rampant Sexism - The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Divorce, abortion and homosexuality are suppressed and the state is represented as the ultimate guardian of the family institution.
6. Controlled Mass Media - Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.
7. Obsession with National Security - Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.
8. Religion and Government are Intertwined - Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions.
9. Corporate Power is Protected - The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.
10. Labor Power is Suppressed - Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed.
11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts - Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts and letters is openly attacked.
12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment - Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.
13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption - Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.
14. Fraudulent Elections - Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.
Uncle Joe
(58,417 posts)I have to run on an appointment but felt compelled to make this OP.
I will be back later, peace to you.
appalachiablue
(41,171 posts)leftofcool
(19,460 posts)What makes you think that any Democratic super delegate will switch to Bernie who has said only negative things about the Democratic party?
Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)Votes in the States they represent. That is why they don't even vote (and thus should not yet be counted) until the convention.
If you are suggesting they subvert the voted delegate will of the people, then I guess even the Presidency is really just for sale in your view after alll.
You should also note that if they do not do as I said, as they always have, and as we have always been told they are there to do, half the party will see it for what it is, a purchased rather than voted delegate win and will revolt accordingly, which would not be good for the recipient of the cheating in NOV. It will also virtually destroy the party by shrinking it's affiliates yet again, from what is it now only 30% of the population? To a much lower number.
A very foolish idea and/or expectation for them to go against the pledged delegates.
Uncle Joe
(58,417 posts)Peace to you.
Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)They better change if the votes are there.
Chasstev365
(5,191 posts)So tired of this!
speaktruthtopower
(800 posts)talking heads are herd animals living on corporate slops as much as the political class.
dana_b
(11,546 posts)fuck them. We are not going to get them to tell the truth because that would hurt their pocket books.
Lucky for us that we have the internet and we can get our message out too.
Uncle Joe
(58,417 posts)in order to counter it effectively.
If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.
― Sun Tzu, The Art of War
http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/17976-if-you-know-the-enemy-and-know-yourself-you-need
Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)to keep me informed regarding the McPravda media propaganda.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)flailing around and looking for a next beg Breaking News. Have a sense we are in the midst of a National Change after this past weeks Bull Crap and Kindergarten antics of the Rethugs Candidates. Just for the ha ha's,checked some of the comments posted on a couple of News Web Sites. Interesting trend in the last 24 hrs. Bernie and the Bird has gone viral World Wide and all positive. Hilary stories are minimal and the comments seem mellow. As far as Trump and Cruz and their Underwear throwing,appears the end of the GOP campaign as we know it,took a hard turn into the toilet over night. The laughing is coming to a end and the hand wringing is the mode of the day.
Social Media is turning away form the Hate Mongers big time,and with the Birdie and Bernie,finally,we are going to a more positive issues oriented campaign. If one wants to see reactions,check out the Oregonian Web Site. You will smile,GUARANTEED.
KingFlorez
(12,689 posts)If this was a closer delegate race factoring in the superdelegates would be premature, but considering how the math is working out, it makes sense to include them.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)And when they look at the overall race they use the pledged delegates, not the super delegates, at least as frequently.
Uncle Joe
(58,417 posts)Hillary as having 1700+ delegates to Bernie's 900+ with no explanation and they make no distinction between pledged or won delegates to that of Super-delegates and they don't explain that Super-delegates can switch their backing depending on who is winning the actual elected delegates.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)They made a point of only talking about pledged delegates and leaving out the super delegates when they were going over the state results. Wolf would then generally say something like: "And don't forget about the super delegates!" and then they would mention that those give Hillary an even bigger lead.
Uncle Joe
(58,417 posts)they're misleading the voters of Washington, Alaska and Hawaii.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Margins are pretty massive so far.
Edit to add: If you are watching now at the "magic wall" they are only talking about pledged delegates.
Uncle Joe
(58,417 posts)disillusion Bernie's supporters from voting for him.
H2O Man
(73,605 posts)The machine is not comfortable with the way things are going today.
Uncle Joe
(58,417 posts)Uncle Joe
(58,417 posts)have plenty of time to cover Trump/Cruz spats over their wives.
H2O Man
(73,605 posts)ignore it, huh? (grin)
BernieforPres2016
(3,017 posts)John King showed the difference in how Bernie would narrow the gap if he won today's 3 states by 55-45 versus 80-20.
I nearly fainted. Thankfully I was sitting down.
Uncle Joe
(58,417 posts)They weren't doing it before.
BernieforPres2016
(3,017 posts)But they couldn't make it with the superdelegates excluded, so they had to drop them for a minute.
Uncle Joe
(58,417 posts)Last edited Sat Mar 26, 2016, 05:50 PM - Edit history (2)
distinction made for a limited period of of time doesn't equate to continuous crawler or sub-message misleading.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Thank you for the heads-up, Uncle Joe!
Uncle Joe
(58,417 posts)Peace to you.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)That bird yesterday...
Happy Easter, Octafish!
AzDar
(14,023 posts)tabasco
(22,974 posts)TURN IT OFF!
Uncle Joe
(58,417 posts)brainwashing propaganda attempts in order to counter it effectively."
If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.
― Sun Tzu, The Art of War
http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/17976-if-you-know-the-enemy-and-know-yourself-you-need
Peace to you, tabasco.
tabasco
(22,974 posts)Make it irrelevant. You're not countering shit.
Uncle Joe
(58,417 posts)didn't recon the corporate media for their brainwashing propaganda, I would have no idea where my friends, associates and acquaintances are coming from.
That Art if War maxim, "you must understand your enemy" and intelligence before battle is a prime requisite.
Kittycat
(10,493 posts)Be done with it, don't put yourself through the stress. Tune in to TYT, and catch up online.
Uncle Joe
(58,417 posts)brainwashing propaganda attempts in order to counter it effectively."
If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.
― Sun Tzu, The Art of War
http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/17976-if-you-know-the-enemy-and-know-yourself-you-need
If it were just me I would cut the cord, but millions of Americans still get their information primarily from the corporate media conglomerates such as CNN, so I feel it's my duty to remain in or return to Hell as a better way to save the lost souls there.
The fire doesn't burn me, I know what it is.
Kittycat
(10,493 posts)No need to pay for it or support their sponsors.
ETA: Love your sign. In all the years I've been here, I don't think I've ever had one. Need to do that.
Uncle Joe
(58,417 posts)I'm still old fashioned that way I guess.
Kittycat
(10,493 posts)It's not too terrible. I'm a more of a reader vs. a follower though. I like to Re-tweet to save for myself, and I comment here and there.
I've added many of the more popular social sites. I'm not active on all of them, I just wanted a presence before my kids. Like most their age these days - they are crazy smart with tech. I think they should earn it like we did. Set them up with an Apple 2, a commodore or an Atari - see what they come up with. LOL.