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pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 01:22 AM Oct 2012

Not just a handful: THOUSANDS of voter registration forms found in VA dumpster.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/10/19/third-instance-of-voter-registration-dumping-found-in-virginia/

A third instance of fraudulent voter registration has been uncovered in the important swing state of Virginia, where a Republican consultant has been arrested and thousands of discarded voter registration forms were recovered from a dumpster earlier this week. According to the Not Larry Sabato blog, a law student at James Madison University registered to vote on campus, but found when she tried to verify the change online, found that her form had never been submitted.

On Thursday, Raw Story reported that 31-year-old Colin Small, a Republican operative employed by Pinpoint, a firm contracted by Republican Party of Virginia, was arrested and charged with “four counts of destruction of voter registration applications, eight counts of disclosure of voter registration application, and one count of obstruction of justice” for throwing active voter registration forms into a dumpster.

Not Larry Sabato blogger Ben Trippett wrote that 2 to 3 weeks ago, a woman, identified only by her first name, Lucy, attempted to update her voter registration at a table on the campus of James Madison University.


“She stopped to fill out a voter registration form to change her voting address from her parents house in Fairfax to her dorm address in Harrisonburg so she could vote in person on election day,” wrote Trippett. ”On Wednesday night Lucy went online to check her voter registration status and found out she had not been registered in Harrisonburg- meaning whoever was collecting her form on campus had not turned it in.”


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Not just a handful: THOUSANDS of voter registration forms found in VA dumpster. (Original Post) pnwmom Oct 2012 OP
At least they were sloppy, idiots n/t flamingdem Oct 2012 #1
Buh-bye! barnabas63 Oct 2012 #2
I smell emergency lawsuit from Obama's lawyers not to bar these Hestia Oct 2012 #3
My question too, which I just posted below (wish I'd seen yours first, which is the better one) We People Oct 2012 #14
+1000 and we should DEMAND an emergency lawsuit wordpix Oct 2012 #37
filling out multiple registration forms should be legal so long as the information is the same and msongs Oct 2012 #4
THIS! is the most important part of the story re: Strategic Allied Consulting Hestia Oct 2012 #5
Whoa. ProudProgressiveNow Oct 2012 #9
I quite agree. surrealAmerican Oct 2012 #23
+1 thanks (nt) enough Oct 2012 #24
not surprised but this is outrageous - calling on DOJ to investigate & O should have emergency wordpix Oct 2012 #36
THIS is the SAME firm hired OVER and OVER again by the rethugs to steal the election. Tigress DEM Oct 2012 #6
So where are the Breitbart gang and Fox News? Are they even covering this? SleeplessinSoCal Oct 2012 #7
They're out swilling pig slop like Cha Oct 2012 #11
They are too busy spinning nonsense about Libya Generic Brad Oct 2012 #50
But...But...But...Acorn Is My Only Talking Point Bigredhunk Oct 2012 #8
thanks, pnwmom! I wondered when I read the Cha Oct 2012 #10
It's probably too late... regnaD kciN Oct 2012 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author We People Oct 2012 #12
Massive Sprouling? Coyotl Oct 2012 #13
Karl Rove's up to his eyeballs in this octoberlib Oct 2012 #15
Oh I wish. Kablooie Oct 2012 #42
GOTV efforts need to encourage newly registered people tblue37 Oct 2012 #16
CanIVote.org can accesses status for any state EmeraldCityGrl Oct 2012 #19
But the Dems need to push for such announcements to be made. They can't just sit back tblue37 Oct 2012 #30
I hope that they can all be registered now Rosa Luxemburg Oct 2012 #18
I doubt that. sofa king Oct 2012 #26
They should make an exception Rosa Luxemburg Oct 2012 #51
And if this were in a third world country, the US would be demanding UN monitors for the election GCP Oct 2012 #20
Article doesn't say, but I'm really hoping the recovered registrations were submitted for processing Jester Messiah Oct 2012 #21
IS this going to hit the mainstream MEDIA????????? onecent Oct 2012 #22
Where are all of these people registering? NCLefty Oct 2012 #25
On the other hand dragonlady Oct 2012 #27
RICO. nt bemildred Oct 2012 #28
Republicans: Rigging Elections since 1968 68 Rex Oct 2012 #29
Virignia State Board of Elections BraKez2 Oct 2012 #31
More people need to watch PoliticsNation with Rev. Al Sharpton tarheelsunc Oct 2012 #32
Where the hell is the MSM on this?? progressivebydesign Oct 2012 #33
Afraid these situations are the "ones found". This Election is glinda Oct 2012 #34
time for FBI to swoop into Rover's offices & confiscate the computers wordpix Oct 2012 #35
They can't win, so they have to threaten peoples' livelihoods, and Dash87 Oct 2012 #38
Please Sign This Petition: Attorney General Eric Holder: Investigate Tagg Romney owning voting machi Syntara Oct 2012 #39
The Hypocrisy Is Breathtaking. colsohlibgal Oct 2012 #40
why four counts, why not 1000+ counts? robinlynne Oct 2012 #41
Proof once again that this country is turning into a banana republic. Brigid Oct 2012 #43
The guy better keep a low profile if he gets out on bail davidpdx Oct 2012 #44
He's out on bond. Lloyd Snook Oct 2012 #46
Where is the evidence of thousands? Lloyd Snook Oct 2012 #45
there may be a bit of hyperbole on the blog, but here's a start for your research NMDemDist2 Oct 2012 #48
Yeah, I know NLS Lloyd Snook Oct 2012 #49
I would like to see the evidence for "thousands" as well Liberal Christian Oct 2012 #53
Everyone check your registration online kmlisle Oct 2012 #54
Spam deleted by one_voice (MIR Team) Junior_Beauchamp Oct 2012 #47
ALL these folks MUST be allowed to register and VOTE. And THROW THE BOOK AT THIS ROTTEN CROOK !!! RBInMaine Oct 2012 #52
 

Hestia

(3,818 posts)
3. I smell emergency lawsuit from Obama's lawyers not to bar these
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 01:28 AM
Oct 2012

people at the voting places, either early or Election Day. They will have accept anyone who shows up. There is no way the lawyers are going to let this lie.

We People

(619 posts)
14. My question too, which I just posted below (wish I'd seen yours first, which is the better one)
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 01:54 AM
Oct 2012

Your solution sounds like the only one. If they don't it will be a royal mess as well as a monumental injustice.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
37. +1000 and we should DEMAND an emergency lawsuit
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 03:21 PM
Oct 2012

We don't need timidity here in the face of voter intimidation, dumping Dem registrations and outright crimes

msongs

(67,421 posts)
4. filling out multiple registration forms should be legal so long as the information is the same and
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 01:31 AM
Oct 2012

one is not applying for multiple/exclusionary jurisdictions or attempting to vote more than once. it should be PRESUMED that on street type voter registrations may be lost, stolen, or dumped, and the person registering should not be penalized when that happens.

 

Hestia

(3,818 posts)
5. THIS! is the most important part of the story re: Strategic Allied Consulting
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 01:31 AM
Oct 2012

last paragraph

According to the Los Angeles Times, Small, the arrested operative, was “working as a supervisor as part of a registration operation in eight swing states financed by the Republican National Committee,” run by a company called Strategic Allied Consulting. When questions arose about Strategic’s practices, including allegations of “submitting forged forms and of dumping Democratic registrations,” the RNC fired the company, at which point Small and his team were re-hired by the Republican Party of Virginia.
Raw Story (http://s.tt/1qvXQ)

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
36. not surprised but this is outrageous - calling on DOJ to investigate & O should have emergency
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 03:19 PM
Oct 2012

legislation allowing anyone to vote in VA if they can show residency.

Tigress DEM

(7,887 posts)
6. THIS is the SAME firm hired OVER and OVER again by the rethugs to steal the election.
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 01:35 AM
Oct 2012


According to the Los Angeles Times, (Colin) Small, the arrested operative, was “working as a supervisor as part of a registration operation in eight swing states financed by the Republican National Committee,” run by a company called Strategic Allied Consulting. When questions arose about Strategic’s practices, including allegations of “submitting forged forms and of dumping Democratic registrations,” the RNC fired the company, at which point Small and his team were re-hired by the Republican Party of Virginia.


Raw Story (http://s.tt/1qvXQ)

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,126 posts)
7. So where are the Breitbart gang and Fox News? Are they even covering this?
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 01:37 AM
Oct 2012

I know those are silly questions. Of course they aren't. But it shows how much more vote theft there is on the part of Republicans than voter fraud on the part of Democrats. Thousands compared to dozens.

Cha

(297,378 posts)
10. thanks, pnwmom! I wondered when I read the
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 01:46 AM
Oct 2012

first time..why only a handul were tossed? What would be the point?

I HOPE this can get resolved in time for those whose registrations got Trashed to be ABLE to VOTE!

regnaD kciN

(26,044 posts)
17. It's probably too late...
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 02:59 AM
Oct 2012
You are responsible for getting your registration in before the deadline -- not any middleman who may have taken your form but who wasn't a state official. That person committed a crime and should serve their time -- but, as far as the state is concerned, it was your fault for relying on a middleman in the first place.

Response to pnwmom (Original post)

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
15. Karl Rove's up to his eyeballs in this
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 02:09 AM
Oct 2012

as he was in the Bush/Kerry Ohio mess. I just want to know when his ass is gonna occupy a jail cell!

Kablooie

(18,635 posts)
42. Oh I wish.
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 10:47 PM
Oct 2012

But you know he's got plenty of distance from himself and the incidents.
He's like the criminal CEOs that destroyed thousands of people' lives to satisfy their own greed and still walk the streets free from any threat of prosecution.

tblue37

(65,442 posts)
16. GOTV efforts need to encourage newly registered people
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 02:10 AM
Oct 2012

to check their registration to make sure they have not been disenfranchised by these jerks.

In fact, the Democratic Party itself needs to run ads everywhere telling people that if they registered at one of those conveniently set up tables or with someone walking around registering people, they might not actually be registered after all and should check to make sure.

And those ads should include references to every one of the incidents discovered so far, as well as the information that in every case it was a Republican outfit destroying or discarding registrations for those deemed likely to be Democratic voters.

The MSM will not do anything to get that information out, so the Dems need to really spread it around.

On edit: I hope the law enforcement agencies will take these felonies seriously. They could easily flip these low-level lowlifes to turn state's evidence against the masterminds--maybe even all the way up to Rove himself. That is, i]if they actually have any desire to prevent the disenfranchisement of potential Democratic .

Unfortunately, I fear many who are in a position to pursue such investigations and prosecutions are not on the side of the angels in these matters.

EmeraldCityGrl

(4,310 posts)
19. CanIVote.org can accesses status for any state
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 03:38 AM
Oct 2012

Should qualify as a public service announcement on radio stations (especially university stations)
urban stations and TV stations in states that have been targeted by the repukes. Stations are required to provide a number of PSA's per month and will probably be cooperative.

[link:http://canivote.org|

tblue37

(65,442 posts)
30. But the Dems need to push for such announcements to be made. They can't just sit back
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 12:33 PM
Oct 2012

and hope that somehow people will realize that their registration might be bogus.

People who think they have registered and those who think that their registration from past elections is still functional won't be thinking that they need to check whether their registration is valid, unless some organized effort is made by the Dems to spread the word that everyone needs to check their registration--especially new voters, of course, but all voters, really, because of the caging and purging tricks the Republicans are constantly using to drop registered Dem voters from the rolls.

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
26. I doubt that.
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 10:22 AM
Oct 2012

The cutoff date for registration was at least a week ago and Republican lawyers will be able to tie up the issue for weeks or months.

Whatever repercussions come from this, those who are disenfranchised will remain so in this election, of that I am nearly sure.

If it's legal, I recommend instead taking a page out of President Obama's playbook and using the Republicans' own mechanism of corruption against the guilty.

Virginia is a "right to work" state, which really means workers have no rights at all and can be fired at any time. Communities that identify election thieves in their midst may well be able to contact the future employers of those people, and demand their immediate termination, or face reprisals like boycotts and protests. No Virginia business can afford that. If it's legal, I think we can ensure that these chumps never work outside of the GOP in Virginia, ever again.

Interestingly enough, I think there is another shoe to drop in this emerging scandal. Several Republican campaign workers have stopped by my store. You know what they all had in common?

They're all on food stamps. Apparently the GOP doesn't pay their workers a living wage, and has been encouraging their shutzstaffeln to apply for EBT cards instead.

GCP

(8,166 posts)
20. And if this were in a third world country, the US would be demanding UN monitors for the election
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 04:30 AM
Oct 2012

What we are seeing is a slow-motion train wreck of what was once the greatest country in the world. I am sickened at what the right wing is doing to dismantle democracy. I know I've just invoked Godwin's Law
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law
but there really are parallels to Nazi Germany, and it's frightening to the extreme.
This country is broken, and I don't see the will to fix it from 50% of the population.

 

Jester Messiah

(4,711 posts)
21. Article doesn't say, but I'm really hoping the recovered registrations were submitted for processing
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 06:55 AM
Oct 2012

That's what's gonna happen, right? I need reassurance.

onecent

(6,096 posts)
22. IS this going to hit the mainstream MEDIA?????????
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 07:12 AM
Oct 2012

I have had MSNBC and ABC on this morning and NOTHING has been said about this. How can they get away with this. IT SHOULD
BE ALL OVER THE NEWS. Correct? Or am I not seeing something.

NCLefty

(3,678 posts)
25. Where are all of these people registering?
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 09:04 AM
Oct 2012

I would never give someone my info outside a supermarket. I would go to the local Dem party or the DMV.

Man... scary stuff.

dragonlady

(3,577 posts)
27. On the other hand
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 11:08 AM
Oct 2012

many people would never take that initiative because they don't know where to go or can't get there. I've registered many people like that outside of grocery stores and on the street. We do have same-day registration in Wisconsin, but at that point proof of residence is required and some people don't have utility bills in their name and so forth. Registering early saves them that hassle and also frees up the time of poll workers on election day.

BraKez2

(279 posts)
31. Virignia State Board of Elections
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 12:40 PM
Oct 2012

need to make sure everybody checks there registration status and anybody who was mislead or didn't get there registration sent in they should be allowed to vote... I'm sure this is going on in other states as well....

tarheelsunc

(2,117 posts)
32. More people need to watch PoliticsNation with Rev. Al Sharpton
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 12:41 PM
Oct 2012

He's one of the only people in the media I've seen properly address this Republican fraud epidemic.

progressivebydesign

(19,458 posts)
33. Where the hell is the MSM on this??
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 12:43 PM
Oct 2012

This part makes it even worse "When questions arose about Strategic’s practices, including allegations of “submitting forged forms and of dumping Democratic registrations,” the RNC fired the company, at which point Small and his team were re-hired by the Republican Party of Virginia"

They knowingly HIRED them after the other issues. And the guy who was caught also worked for the RNC for a while. I saw his pic.. "consultant" yea riiiight, looked like his last job was in fast food. Sort of a consultant, like Doug Kaplan at Gravis.

glinda

(14,807 posts)
34. Afraid these situations are the "ones found". This Election is
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 02:59 PM
Oct 2012

going to sadly be a joke if something major is not done throughout the Country asap. This is breaking my heart and making my stomach hurt.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
35. time for FBI to swoop into Rover's offices & confiscate the computers
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 03:16 PM
Oct 2012

I'm wondering how closely aligned Small/Pinpoint is to Rove's group.

Dash87

(3,220 posts)
38. They can't win, so they have to threaten peoples' livelihoods, and
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 03:27 PM
Oct 2012

throw out people that registered as Democrats. Scum.

Syntara

(39 posts)
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Sat Oct 20, 2012, 08:10 PM
Oct 2012
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colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
40. The Hypocrisy Is Breathtaking.
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 08:14 PM
Oct 2012

These felony actions are in the midst of all their "voter fraud" whining. Oh, and their supposed religious high ground status. I'd call these people pond scum but that's not fair to pond scum.

The democrats are timid about bringing this stuff to light, thinking it will depress turnout. Please sir may I have another. what wimps.

I did hear this crime mentioned on "Up With Chris Hayes" this morning on MSNBC.

Lloyd Snook

(3 posts)
46. He's out on bond.
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 03:10 PM
Oct 2012

I bet that he doesn't stay around Harrisonburg, though -- I'm sure that the RNC will want to keep him out of the public eye until November 7.

Lloyd Snook

(3 posts)
45. Where is the evidence of thousands?
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 03:09 PM
Oct 2012

I have been on top of this story on my Facebook page since Monday, but I haven't seen any talk of there being thousands of forms found. What is the source of that? Got a link?

Lloyd Snook

(3 posts)
49. Yeah, I know NLS
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 05:02 PM
Oct 2012

But there is nothing in there about "thousands," which is what the DU headline screams. I don't post about things I can't document, and I'm not going there without some source.

Liberal Christian

(748 posts)
53. I would like to see the evidence for "thousands" as well
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 09:22 PM
Oct 2012

I'm happy to spread truth. If there were "thousands" of registration forms found in dumpsters, then I want the story out. But I can't find anything about that by Googling, except for the one blog story cited here.

Does anyone have credible sourcing for there being more than a handful of forms thrown away? Even a handful is reprehensible, but I'd like to be reporting the truth if I'm going to spread the word.

kmlisle

(276 posts)
54. Everyone check your registration online
Mon Oct 22, 2012, 07:50 AM
Oct 2012

Then report back if there is an irregularity. I already did this in Fla because of the news about registration fraud and I am ok but if thousands of DU members and friends did the same thing and if we had a central reporting point that would be a way to uncover more evidence and even look for patterns of fraud. Anyone who registered recently at a public event should definitely check online to make sure you are actually registered. We could crowd-source an investigation here. Anyone with the tech skills to set this up? People would need to report when and where they registered if there is not the info they expected to find.

 

RBInMaine

(13,570 posts)
52. ALL these folks MUST be allowed to register and VOTE. And THROW THE BOOK AT THIS ROTTEN CROOK !!!
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 05:14 PM
Oct 2012
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