2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumSo let me get this straight, hillary is sunk
without the african-american community vote which her husband destroyed with his crime bill. lol, isn't that some kind of irony.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)leftofcool
(19,460 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)Punkingal
(9,522 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)hellofromreddit
(1,182 posts)There was a big concern back then about hyper-violent children becoming criminals.
21:40. He really hammers away at that idea. The crime bill was supposed to deter most and incarcerate the incorrigible ones. But it just tagged a generation as criminals and tore apart poor communities. Just as many had predicted.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Trenzalore
(2,331 posts)I believe he had some reason for being against Amber Alerts, and the Brady Bill, etc.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)sheshe2
(83,898 posts)Don't go inserting facts into the narrative, now!
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)The difference is that Bernie CBC and the rest of the Democrats. Didn't use demonizing language to get it passed.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)NWCorona
(8,541 posts)But there is this, end justifies the means, thing.
dchill
(38,532 posts)NWCorona
(8,541 posts)You need more than one paragraph.
scscholar
(2,902 posts)About what?
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)Godhumor
(6,437 posts)But you might want to seriously consider a self-delete.
FreedomRain
(413 posts)She still has a chance, I think she should stay in
yourpaljoey
(2,166 posts)Is this what you mean?
DemonGoddess
(4,640 posts)parroting RW talking points.
http://mediamatters.org/blog/2016/03/21/law-professor-explains-why-hillary-clinton-wont/209438
http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/politics/272578-that-gop-fantasy-that-never-goes-away-the-hillary-indictment
This is DEMOCRATIC Underground, not REPUBLICAN Underground. SHEESH.
Cobalt Violet
(9,905 posts)yourpaljoey
(2,166 posts)The unfolding shady activity has
nothing to do with a right wing evil conspiracy to discredit
Hillary and everything to do with the Clinton Foundation
business model.
beedle
(1,235 posts)They had exactly the same stance on the bill so how can one have two different opinions on their supp .. o ...r.... OH!
U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders campaign manager on Thursday reiterated the senators reasoning for voting in favor of the Clinton administrations 1994 Crime Bill despite serious reservations. The House version of the bill included a ban on semi-automatic assault weapons. Sanders had supported the ban since 1988. The conference committee version included not only the assault weapons ban but also the Violence Against Women Act provisions. Sanders supported these efforts to protect women.
In Sanders statement at the time, he criticized the mass incarceration and death penalty provisions in the bill, saying:
it is also my view that through the neglect of our Government and through a grossly irrational set of priorities, we are dooming tens of millions of young people to a future of bitterness, misery, hopelessness, drugs, crime, and violence.
And Mr. Speaker, all the jails in the world, and we already imprison more people per capita than any other country, and all of the executions in the world, will not make that situation right. We can either educate or electrocute. We can create meaningful jobs, rebuilding our society, or we can build more jails.
Mr. Speaker, let us create a society of hope and compassion, not one of hate and vengeance.
During consideration of the bill, Sanders voted six times to weaken or eliminate the death penalty provisions and voted separately against creating new mandatory minimums. Then-First Lady Hillary Clinton spoke strongly in favor of increased incarceration, labeling at risk youth as super-predators who had to be brought to heel.
Seems there was only one thing that could possibly get Hillary to put aside her strong aversion to firearms, the thought of putting "$uper predator$" into the Prison Industrial Complex.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,711 posts)beedle
(1,235 posts)it hasn't really changed ... he's for doing something about violence against women, and still wants to gut the stupid part of the bill that has failed.
If he had voted against the bill you'd be claiming he didn't do enough to stop violence against women.
He may have voted for the bill, but he had the right position on all the sections of that bill, unlike Hillary who once again showed poor judgement in the parts she supported.
MelungeonWoman
(502 posts)That's MY President.
ericson00
(2,707 posts)yea, sunk like an iceberg.
uponit7771
(90,364 posts)reddread
(6,896 posts)thats where the beef is.
her personal involvement
targeting services for
single mothers with children.
she is getting a bye from everyone on her darkest secret.
BlueStateLib
(937 posts)bigtree
(86,005 posts)...that would be bad for Bernie, since he voted for it.
But, clearly, assigning blame for that that legislation isn't the primary consideration of the majority of these voters.
Hillary has a wide coalition of voters supporting her.