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All this hand wringing over Susan Sarandon reminds me of another female political activist who dared (Original Post) jillan Mar 2016 OP
Women who don't support Hillary, you know where they're going: beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #1
I hope for their sake though that's where the boys are! polly7 Mar 2016 #77
Oh my! beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #86
You're welcome. :) nt. polly7 Mar 2016 #89
I'm too old to know who the person is. Manifestor_of_Light Mar 2016 #165
I have no idea either. I was hunting down men's hairstyles one day polly7 Mar 2016 #214
homina homina homina..... wendylaroux Mar 2016 #103
Wow!! Gorgeous! haikugal Mar 2016 #152
Not bad. Little too young, though. senz Mar 2016 #173
LOL Yes, you're right, it is good. polly7 Mar 2016 #213
Oh, I'm sure not to be anywhere NEAR that old tire... MrMickeysMom Mar 2016 #204
Bernin'! janlea Mar 2016 #206
Nah, Susan doesn't care nor should she. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #207
Batshit knows no gender RandySF Mar 2016 #2
+ 1 JoePhilly Mar 2016 #3
Trudat ... salinsky Mar 2016 #4
I think everyone gets passionate about their candidate during the primary yeoman6987 Mar 2016 #107
One could say the same of super rich former first ladies. senz Mar 2016 #175
Jane Fonda was batshit for speaking out against the war? jillan Mar 2016 #6
All women and issues are the same? Always need to strip away the context to make your bettyellen Mar 2016 #120
She's batshit for participating in North Vietnamese propaganda NobodyHere Mar 2016 #164
She actually apologized RandySF Mar 2016 #170
Yup. zappaman Mar 2016 #7
+1 Blue_Tires Mar 2016 #52
Sure you would. demmiblue Mar 2016 #64
+1 bravenak Mar 2016 #117
+1 rock Mar 2016 #153
But stolid, turgid, stick-in-the-mud superiority is distinctly middle-aged male. senz Mar 2016 #168
Sorry but RandySF Mar 2016 #169
But Randy, do you have the courage to fight the crap? senz Mar 2016 #171
That's not the issue RandySF Mar 2016 #174
She senses that Hill would put a stranglehold on progressivism in this country senz Mar 2016 #176
Did Fonda attack civil rights icons? nt LexVegas Mar 2016 #5
Civil rights icon? KPN Mar 2016 #44
Yeah...Dolores Huerta is a civil rights icon. LexVegas Mar 2016 #80
Dolores Huerrta? KPN Mar 2016 #135
Good post. Thanks! haikugal Mar 2016 #154
Dolores Huerta is a confirmed liar. Odin2005 Mar 2016 #216
who are you going to believe? a "civil rights icon" or the lying videotape? Vote2016 Mar 2016 #49
"Icons." Got religion now? senz Mar 2016 #177
People are not upset with her for backing Bernie. LonePirate Mar 2016 #8
She doesn't support Trump, she never said that. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #10
She didn't but don't bother - they have made up their minds that she did. jillan Mar 2016 #14
It's a witch hunt, ever since she came out in support of Bernie they've been lying about her. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #16
I know! She dared to say that she doesn't vote with her vagina! Ooooooo! jillan Mar 2016 #19
One of DU's most outspoken "feminists" made a nasty comment about her "sexy pose". beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #21
This! NWCorona Mar 2016 #42
It's her right. Somehow we seemed to have lost that notion. She can vote for whomever she wants. jillan Mar 2016 #11
Wrong! On a website by and for Democrats, she deserves to be vilified if she supports a Repub. LonePirate Mar 2016 #60
She didn't say that. She said she didn't know. Hayes said Trump, she said Jill Stein and then she jillan Mar 2016 #72
Sorry, but I respectfully disagree. Vilified? Really? KPN Mar 2016 #145
Since you respectfully disagree, you actually believe it is OK to support Repubs here on DU? LonePirate Mar 2016 #150
I think you are putting words into my and Sarandon's mouths. KPN Mar 2016 #160
You're putting words in my mouth. LonePirate Mar 2016 #163
Please don't bully other people. Okay? senz Mar 2016 #179
I'm accused of putting words in someone's mouth and that makes me a bully? LonePirate Mar 2016 #194
Predictable. Expected. KPN Mar 2016 #184
Why is it sad or "predictable" to ask people not to advocate against Dems in the GE? LonePirate Mar 2016 #193
Your response was predictable. KPN Mar 2016 #198
Dear god in heaven, please tell me she did not say that! Really? Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #40
No she didn't say that, this is a lie from last night's interview. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #55
Ouch, turns out she kinda did. Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #59
No she didn't, she never said she supported Trump. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #65
THis is what she said, and DAn Savage even had to rebuff her Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #71
She never said she supported Trump, that link proves it. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #83
Well, she said this Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #88
So she never said she supports him or is voting for him, thanks for clearing that up. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #93
"A fact is a fact"? See "irony" in dictionary. DisgustipatedinCA Mar 2016 #119
No she kinda didn't ibegurpard Mar 2016 #140
But it is RIGHT there in plain english, isnt it? Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #142
No, it isn't....reading comprehension, it's a new thing! haikugal Mar 2016 #157
What does that mean then? Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #166
You haven't been paying attention? haikugal Mar 2016 #167
I think it means she'll wait to see what happens.... bobbobbins01 Mar 2016 #178
Bingo!! haikugal Mar 2016 #183
Watch the interview. She was answering a question and she was not JDPriestly Mar 2016 #158
Since Trump will never, ever be the nominee, that's a moot point n/t arcane1 Mar 2016 #114
You should probably avoid listening to Clinton fans. They try to make you believe untrue things, DisgustipatedinCA Mar 2016 #118
I've read the reports and verbatim quotes of her statements. Seems to me Trump is her second choice. LonePirate Mar 2016 #124
I think I'll continue to call out dishonest statements where I see them. DisgustipatedinCA Mar 2016 #125
There's nothing dishonest in saying Sarandon implies she will support Trump if Bernie loses. LonePirate Mar 2016 #127
They most certainly did not - eom dreamnightwind Mar 2016 #211
Maybe you should watch the video yourself rather than relying on the quotes 1monster Mar 2016 #162
Cool it with the witch hunt. You just want to go after somebody. senz Mar 2016 #181
Smile. Appreciate the support KPN Mar 2016 #189
love your avatar Hiraeth Mar 2016 #126
Thank you! It is possible to love Bernie but loathe Bernie or Busters. LonePirate Mar 2016 #131
anything is possible Hiraeth Mar 2016 #132
But not likely Fairgo Mar 2016 #133
not likely I read any more of your posts. Hiraeth Mar 2016 #144
Hmmmm, you might have misread my post Fairgo Mar 2016 #147
Fairgo's good. senz Mar 2016 #182
Yeah, and why are DU men commenting on this? demmiblue Mar 2016 #9
Strong outspoken women have that effect on some people. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #13
I am surprised that they haven't tried to slut shame her for... demmiblue Mar 2016 #61
That's next, they're already slinging around sexist terms. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #66
Geez, I was being a little hyperbolic (knowingly)... demmiblue Mar 2016 #97
You have no idea how often I was compared to Jane Fonda by older male relatives senz Mar 2016 #185
They hadn't coined the term 'feminazi' then but if they had that's what they would've called her. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #191
Yup. Hypocrisy & irrationality do wonders for gender politics. nt senz Mar 2016 #192
So you reject any criticism of Hillary from male Bernie supporters? nt geek tragedy Mar 2016 #24
Lol. demmiblue Mar 2016 #29
Hillary is the opposite of Jane Fonda and Susan Sarandon. senz Mar 2016 #190
+1 KPN Mar 2016 #48
please clarify demwing Mar 2016 #82
Somewhat a parody of certain Hillary supporters, though some may find a wee kernel of truth. demmiblue Mar 2016 #92
She has routinely campaigned for 3rd parties Trenzalore Mar 2016 #12
So what? She can vote for anyone she wants. We are supposed to have that option in the US. jillan Mar 2016 #15
Bernie's running as a Democrat but don't let the facts get in the way of a good smear. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #18
Dictating? potone Mar 2016 #22
Is that even legal?!!? We should really make a law forcing people to vote the way we want. DisgustipatedinCA Mar 2016 #123
You're still here? ... Trajan Mar 2016 #201
Hopefully Trenzalore Mar 2016 #202
Damn ... You've only been here for 12 days, and look at ya! Trajan Mar 2016 #203
Kind of disturbing Trenzalore Mar 2016 #205
Naw! It's just the DU Hillary group. longship Mar 2016 #17
It is. Check out the Sarandon hate thread-- it's a few names posting over and over, Marr Mar 2016 #27
It's a wonder they haven't broken their arms with all that self-congratulatory back slapping. hobbit709 Mar 2016 #38
So, this rule applies to Naderite Hollywood actresses but not Hillary Clinton? nt geek tragedy Mar 2016 #20
Hillary speaks out for different things: war, "traditional" marriage... beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #23
This isn't 1996. But, just to be clear, women who support Bernie are above criticism geek tragedy Mar 2016 #26
She was fiercely opposed to marriage equality until 2013. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #30
Fiercely opposed? Come on. geek tragedy Mar 2016 #34
Yes, fiercly opposed as in giving speeches trying to convince others to oppose it: beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #45
first clip is from .... 2006 and arguing against a constiutional amendment banning same sex geek tragedy Mar 2016 #56
In that clip she defined marriage as a "sacred bond between a man and a woman". beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #62
it was a speech opposing a constitutional amendment to oppress GLBT Americans geek tragedy Mar 2016 #70
She stated her opposition over and over again, who should I believe, Hillary or you? beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #81
I don't understand your question. Are you comparing Hillary to an actress? jillan Mar 2016 #25
Susan Sarandon is a Sanders campaign surrogate. Anyone can say whatever they want. geek tragedy Mar 2016 #28
She is a Bernie supporter. Just as Madeline Albrecht "Burn in Hell" is a Hillary supporter. jillan Mar 2016 #32
and you wrote an OP demanding people lay off Madeline Albright because she's a woman? geek tragedy Mar 2016 #36
No - but many Hillary supporters did. jillan Mar 2016 #39
so you've adopted their reasoning? nt geek tragedy Mar 2016 #41
When is the party going to take responsibility nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #104
bashing Dixiecrat/Conservadems is not controversial here. geek tragedy Mar 2016 #112
Yet the folks blamed for Florida nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #134
there's no need to blame either/or for Florida, conservadems geek tragedy Mar 2016 #136
Sorry but I never hear anybody blaming the USSC or the Dems for it nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #137
you never hear anyone bashing the Bush v Gore 5? nt geek tragedy Mar 2016 #139
Very rarely and as a reminder when idiots bring, predictably mind you, Nader nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #141
Jane Fonda had massive fundraisers, just like Clooney MattP Mar 2016 #31
Well, I must confess, I will never ever ever through Clooney under the bus.... jillan Mar 2016 #35
What a pathetically lame analogy.....geez Trust Buster Mar 2016 #33
Not really, Bernie supporters were bashed for going after Madeline Albright because she didn't speak jillan Mar 2016 #37
nobody is going after her for preferring Bernie to Clinton. geek tragedy Mar 2016 #43
Except she's NOT doing that, people are lying about what she said to vilify her. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #46
she gave the standard Rock Bottomer justificiation for letting Trump win--Trump winning geek tragedy Mar 2016 #58
More weaseling, she never said she supported Trump. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #68
1) spare me the disengenuous "it's sexism to criticize Sarandon" nonsense; geek tragedy Mar 2016 #91
Thanks for proving my point, you just posted a link proving she doesn't support Trump: beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #98
funny how she flat out refused to suggest that Trump winning would be worse than Clinton geek tragedy Mar 2016 #100
So still nothing? Quelle surprise! Thanks for playing! beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #102
And that is the whole point! That's her right. Susan Sarandon can vote for whomever she pleases. jillan Mar 2016 #50
Sarandon is a Sanders surrogate. He should not be using her. geek tragedy Mar 2016 #57
No - she is a supporter. She has introduced him at some rallies. She does phone banking. She does jillan Mar 2016 #67
Got it... you think a woman and a black man are not powerful in their own right. demmiblue Mar 2016 #73
No, I think campaigns get to choose who they deploy as surrogates and that geek tragedy Mar 2016 #79
So, you are saying that Hillary co-signed Ferraro's racist remarks? demmiblue Mar 2016 #84
No, they didn't know what she would say. geek tragedy Mar 2016 #95
You run a dog whistle campaign, you attract the dogs. demmiblue Mar 2016 #108
not sure how you think that supports your side of this argument, but go ahead and run with it nt geek tragedy Mar 2016 #111
Ok. Thanks for your permission, Dad. demmiblue Mar 2016 #113
And Sarandon did't support trump either nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #76
Except she is not nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #75
I think even Sarandon herself would be offended by suggesting her doubts with regards to voting Trust Buster Mar 2016 #53
+1 Jane Fonda got a backlash much bigger treestar Mar 2016 #186
Sarandon is a Nader acolyte. "not a dimes worth of difference"? nuff said redstateblues Mar 2016 #47
That's her right. I don't care. jillan Mar 2016 #51
Why does Susan Sarandon hate America? beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #54
why does she want it to "explode"? bettyellen Mar 2016 #105
ZOMG SHE WANTS US TO EXPLODE NOW??? beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #109
Thank her and her fellow Naderites for Bush/Cheney if you see her redstateblues Mar 2016 #74
You spelled SCOTUS wrong. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #110
lol! senz Mar 2016 #195
Do you agree with her? Renew Deal Mar 2016 #210
Didn't something like this happen to the Dixie Chicks in the 90's? Nt Rebkeh Mar 2016 #63
Yes nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #78
Yep - I thought of that after I posted the OP. jillan Mar 2016 #85
Yes indeed it did, great observation! beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #87
Yup, this is how it happens. Major Hogwash Mar 2016 #90
yup. PFunk1 Mar 2016 #94
I guess Saradon has enough money so that she can buy her way out of what ever upaloopa Mar 2016 #69
Hillary group: 768 blocked DUers! longship Mar 2016 #96
Geez- I was banned from the Bernie Group for asking a mild question. redstateblues Mar 2016 #99
A mild question? As in red baiting? beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #106
I am a Bernie supporter and I was banned from the Bernie group. longship Mar 2016 #115
+1 Me too. treestar Mar 2016 #187
They hate that poor bird almost as much as they hate Susan. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #101
people forget heaven05 Mar 2016 #116
Sarandon is no hero. hrmjustin Mar 2016 #121
You're right. She is however a good actress. Not great, but good. jillan Mar 2016 #122
Yes she is. She speaks truth to power. That's a hero ThePhilosopher04 Mar 2016 #130
Don't make me laugh, I have chapped lips! hrmjustin Mar 2016 #149
Yep. Joe McCarthy has taken up residence on DU. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #128
And I though out the dead were confined to the cemetery nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #138
Joe's spirit lives on. And, is often invoked when it comes to left wing activists. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #146
True, true nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #148
Susan can support whomever she wants. But to see someone so privideged saying with glee lunamagica Mar 2016 #129
Jane Fonda said she'd vote for a misogynist, anti- immigrant authoritarian? brooklynite Mar 2016 #143
Sarandon is considerably more mature now than Fonda was then. merrily Mar 2016 #151
Yes, and it's much in the same (right-wing) register. JackRiddler Mar 2016 #155
Free republic underground.... haikugal Mar 2016 #159
Fonda didn't give tacit support to fascists. Starry Messenger Mar 2016 #156
Spare me the whining leftynyc Mar 2016 #161
This! grossproffit Mar 2016 #200
Jane Fonda eventually apologized RandySF Mar 2016 #172
Leni Reifinsthal is a better analogy BainsBane Mar 2016 #180
Beat me to it, Bain.....Leni was my first thought as well. nt msanthrope Mar 2016 #215
I saw that Jonathan "bernie wasn't there" Capehart was sprinkling his pixie dust today . . . Depaysement Mar 2016 #188
I'm not wringing my hands, I just think that the woman is a twit. Beacool Mar 2016 #196
Barbarella could kick Janet's ass jberryhill Mar 2016 #197
Rosario Dawson reddread Mar 2016 #199
because they both have vaginas? :sarcasm: bettyellen Mar 2016 #208
The irony of your post is too much Renew Deal Mar 2016 #209
Nancy Reagan? reddread Mar 2016 #212

polly7

(20,582 posts)
77. I hope for their sake though that's where the boys are!
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 12:52 PM
Mar 2016

I think this one might be:




Omg I wish I could vote there.

 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
165. I'm too old to know who the person is.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 04:10 PM
Mar 2016

I wish somebody would put names on these "Hunk of the Month" posts.

polly7

(20,582 posts)
214. I have no idea either. I was hunting down men's hairstyles one day
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 07:36 AM
Mar 2016

for a friend who's getting his chopped off, it's down to his waist and I was teasing him how he should go. He donates his hair often, it's thick and beautiful blond; I've never seen anyone's hair grow that fast in my life.

polly7

(20,582 posts)
213. LOL Yes, you're right, it is good.
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 07:33 AM
Mar 2016

I just thought all those young girls first time voting might want to see there's (possibly/hopefully) those 'boys' down in hell just waiting for them.

He is quite stunning though ......... I'd love to draw him.

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
204. Oh, I'm sure not to be anywhere NEAR that old tire...
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 08:48 PM
Mar 2016

There are special places for old skanks who see children as collateral damage...

janlea

(26 posts)
206. Bernin'!
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 09:17 PM
Mar 2016

The women in my family got a shopping trip out of this!!!!: new flame resistant outfits for Hell. Re. Susan Sarandon: when did it become anybody's business who she votes for? I hope you don't think she cares what anyone thinks of her.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
207. Nah, Susan doesn't care nor should she.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 09:19 PM
Mar 2016

Although this hatred for her is unhinged, if I were her I would up my security.

salinsky

(1,065 posts)
4. Trudat ...
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 12:04 PM
Mar 2016

... concern for your fellow countrymen used to be one of the cornerstones of progressivism.

I guess when you're a super rich Hollywood liberal, it's easy to forget about that.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
107. I think everyone gets passionate about their candidate during the primary
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 01:11 PM
Mar 2016

Had she said this in October I could see the criticism.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
175. One could say the same of super rich former first ladies.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 04:33 PM
Mar 2016

If Sarandon were running for president, I'd vote for her.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
120. All women and issues are the same? Always need to strip away the context to make your
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 01:29 PM
Mar 2016

argument?

RandySF

(59,092 posts)
170. She actually apologized
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 04:20 PM
Mar 2016

For holding a rally with the people who were shooting at American servicemen.

RandySF

(59,092 posts)
169. Sorry but
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 04:18 PM
Mar 2016

I don't have recourses like she does to insulate myself and my family from the consequences of a Trump or Cruz presidency. I don't have a ping pong club to retreat to.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
171. But Randy, do you have the courage to fight the crap?
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 04:27 PM
Mar 2016

I don't have resources either but do not want to entrust the future of this country into the hands of either a Trump or a Hillary.

So let's get behind the only candidate actually cares about and represents the people of this country.

RandySF

(59,092 posts)
174. That's not the issue
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 04:32 PM
Mar 2016

I respect one's right to back a candidate in a primary. But would you step back, like Sarandon is suggesting people will do, and let Trump or Cruz burn the country down?

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
176. She senses that Hill would put a stranglehold on progressivism in this country
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 04:39 PM
Mar 2016

and sees greater opportunity for rebellion under anyone else.

Who knows? If it comes down to the false dichotomy of Hill vs. Trump maybe someone else will step into the ring.

LexVegas

(6,088 posts)
80. Yeah...Dolores Huerta is a civil rights icon.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 12:53 PM
Mar 2016

Your laughing is why your guy does so bad with minorities.

KPN

(15,647 posts)
135. Dolores Huerrta?
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 02:16 PM
Mar 2016

Thought you were referring to Hilly. But no matter, that was a non-incident and Sarandon did not attack her.

This is all so petty. Sarandon's an enemy because she doesn't fall in line and has some visibility.

You Hillary folks fail to recognize that some if not many Bernie supporters don't feel obligated, have never been obligated, and certainly don't feel represented by the Democratic Party or DNC. Your outrage at their "disloyalty" is pointless. There is some legitimacy to the their view that maybe things just need to get worse or very bad before they really do get better -- afterall, it's been the history of mankind/civilization generally.

LonePirate

(13,429 posts)
8. People are not upset with her for backing Bernie.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 12:05 PM
Mar 2016

People are upset with her for supporting Trump if Bernie loses the primary contest. Everybody here at DU should find that unconscionable.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
16. It's a witch hunt, ever since she came out in support of Bernie they've been lying about her.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 12:10 PM
Mar 2016

They even slut shamed her the other night.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
21. One of DU's most outspoken "feminists" made a nasty comment about her "sexy pose".
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 12:15 PM
Mar 2016

And another said "sex sells".


jillan

(39,451 posts)
11. It's her right. Somehow we seemed to have lost that notion. She can vote for whomever she wants.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 12:08 PM
Mar 2016

We don't have to agree with her. But she has that right & shouldn't be vilified.

LonePirate

(13,429 posts)
60. Wrong! On a website by and for Democrats, she deserves to be vilified if she supports a Repub.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 12:41 PM
Mar 2016

Have people forgotten where they are posting nowadays?

jillan

(39,451 posts)
72. She didn't say that. She said she didn't know. Hayes said Trump, she said Jill Stein and then she
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 12:49 PM
Mar 2016

followed it up with if Trump wins you will see the revolution in full force.

Paraphrasing here, but it was along those lines.

KPN

(15,647 posts)
145. Sorry, but I respectfully disagree. Vilified? Really?
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 02:24 PM
Mar 2016

For basically pointing out that she doesn't see Hillary as the person who will push the nation in the direction it needs to move? My son has said the identical thing she said -- basically, that in the long run (i.e., several years down the road) maybe it would be better if Trump wins over Hillary. I understand where he's coming from: darkest just before the dawn. BTW, he's 32, college degree and makes a decent income. He's not inspired by the Democratic Party today any more than he is by the GOP, though he believes in long held democratic principles (which he feels today's party does not).

So should he be vilified for that thinking too, or me for understanding where he's coming from?

LonePirate

(13,429 posts)
150. Since you respectfully disagree, you actually believe it is OK to support Repubs here on DU?
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 03:14 PM
Mar 2016

I said people should be figuratively raked over the coals here at DU for supporting Repubs. Therefore, if you disagree ...

KPN

(15,647 posts)
160. I think you are putting words into my and Sarandon's mouths.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 03:58 PM
Mar 2016

Because she refuses to follow blindly. I didn't say anything about what I, as a Bernie supporter, may possibly do if he's not nominated -- yet in your mind I deserve to be vilified?

LonePirate

(13,429 posts)
163. You're putting words in my mouth.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 04:05 PM
Mar 2016

Where did I say you should be vilified for something you have not done?

If you don't want flack here on DU, then do not advocate voting against the Dem in the GE (or voting for a third party candidate because of so-called principles).

LonePirate

(13,429 posts)
194. I'm accused of putting words in someone's mouth and that makes me a bully?
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 05:22 PM
Mar 2016

That's a bizarre interpretation of things.

LonePirate

(13,429 posts)
193. Why is it sad or "predictable" to ask people not to advocate against Dems in the GE?
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 05:20 PM
Mar 2016

Do you understand the purpose of the website? Do you oppose voting for Dems in the GE?

KPN

(15,647 posts)
198. Your response was predictable.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 08:29 PM
Mar 2016

I already told you why I disagreed. Let's not chase our tail here. You don't like or agree with my explanation, fine.

Jackie Wilson Said

(4,176 posts)
40. Dear god in heaven, please tell me she did not say that! Really?
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 12:26 PM
Mar 2016

I am not questioning you as in implying you are being dishonest but do you have a link?

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
55. No she didn't say that, this is a lie from last night's interview.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 12:36 PM
Mar 2016

She said some people will support Trump, not that she would.

Here's the quote:

Some people think that if Trump is elected that will bring the revolution.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
65. No she didn't, she never said she supported Trump.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 12:44 PM
Mar 2016

She would probably write in Bernie's name or vote for Jill Stein.

She would never vote for a racist sexist asshole like Trump.

Jackie Wilson Said

(4,176 posts)
71. THis is what she said, and DAn Savage even had to rebuff her
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 12:48 PM
Mar 2016
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511600631

The facts are the facts.

Anyone who says what she said there, is having some real big white privilege problems.

Jackie Wilson Said

(4,176 posts)
88. Well, she said this
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 12:57 PM
Mar 2016
…I don’t know . I’m going to see what happens.


So she is considering supporting Trump.

Now that is a fact.

But why argue about it, many here are as well they just wont admit it or at a MINIMUM they are going to inadvertently support him

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
93. So she never said she supports him or is voting for him, thanks for clearing that up.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 12:59 PM
Mar 2016

Speculation is fine but they cross the line into lying when they say she supports/is voting for Trump.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
158. Watch the interview. She was answering a question and she was not
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 03:47 PM
Mar 2016

altogether serious.

On trade, Bernie and Trump are closer than Hillary and Bernie.

Bernie is simply the best bet for our candidate.

But I don't think the Republicans will nominate Trump, so for me this question is irrelevant.

Trump will not have 50.1 percent of the votes in the primary season, and I have heard that according to Republican rules, that's what he needs to go into the Republican convention with his nomination pretty much in hand.

So don't worry about this too much.

Cruz, unless a scandal makes him an impossible candidate, will probably be the candidate in my opinion. And Hillary will not do well against Cruz. She is not a good enough speaker. Bernie will win against Cruz, but not Hillary.


 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
118. You should probably avoid listening to Clinton fans. They try to make you believe untrue things,
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 01:24 PM
Mar 2016

such as what you've posted here.

LonePirate

(13,429 posts)
124. I've read the reports and verbatim quotes of her statements. Seems to me Trump is her second choice.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 01:44 PM
Mar 2016

There's no need to insult HRC's supporters when Sarandon's words are damning all on their own.

 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
125. I think I'll continue to call out dishonest statements where I see them.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 01:46 PM
Mar 2016

Stating that Sarandon is considering voting for Trump is a dishonest statement, and I think I'll just keep on saying so.

LonePirate

(13,429 posts)
127. There's nothing dishonest in saying Sarandon implies she will support Trump if Bernie loses.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 01:56 PM
Mar 2016

You may not like the statement but it is not dishonest. Her own words make that pretty clear.

1monster

(11,012 posts)
162. Maybe you should watch the video yourself rather than relying on the quotes
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 04:02 PM
Mar 2016

of her statements. It on DU.

Here's the link to the DU discussion thread: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017346070

Here's the link to the YouTube post:

Fairgo

(1,571 posts)
147. Hmmmm, you might have misread my post
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 02:32 PM
Mar 2016

Unless I misread yours. I was referring to the disjunct between the avatar and the message. No insult meant.

demmiblue

(36,875 posts)
9. Yeah, and why are DU men commenting on this?
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 12:05 PM
Mar 2016

They have no right to stand in judgement of a women's political thoughts and feelings.

demmiblue

(36,875 posts)
61. I am surprised that they haven't tried to slut shame her for...
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 12:41 PM
Mar 2016

having had a relationship with a man 30 years her junior.

Still could happen, though.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
66. That's next, they're already slinging around sexist terms.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 12:45 PM
Mar 2016

And two DUers did slut shame her the other night.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
185. You have no idea how often I was compared to Jane Fonda by older male relatives
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 04:59 PM
Mar 2016

back in the day. And I wasn't even very outspoken.

I do believe she stood for something in their minds, something they find deeply disturbing, definitely gender related. I've seen the same reaction on this thread. Brought all my old adolescent repudiation of such men, fresh as if it were yesterday.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
191. They hadn't coined the term 'feminazi' then but if they had that's what they would've called her.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 05:04 PM
Mar 2016

And I will be the first to admit many men feel the same way about Hillary but the vast majority of them are Republicans.

Having been called a traitor, told I was going to hell and am supporting "white maIe rule" by OTHER WOMEN if I vote for Bernie I'm just a little sick and tired of these same types pretending they can take the high road now.

That ship has sailed.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
190. Hillary is the opposite of Jane Fonda and Susan Sarandon.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 05:03 PM
Mar 2016

Hillary has no principles and never takes a stand to protect anything.

Absorb that. Know it.

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
82. please clarify
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 12:54 PM
Mar 2016

and define "stand in judgement" and "thoughts and feelings."

At first I wanted to agree with your post, but then I wondered if I am allowed to stand in judgement of Hillary's "thoughts and feelings" about the Iraq war, for example?

If we're talking about personal thoughts and feelings about something like reproductive rights, I'm with you.

If we're talking about publicly shared thoughts and feelings about how you plan to govern, then I say some things need to be judged. There is a difference between judgement, and being judgmental.

So, please help me understand what you mean.

demmiblue

(36,875 posts)
92. Somewhat a parody of certain Hillary supporters, though some may find a wee kernel of truth.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 12:59 PM
Mar 2016

Or not.


Trenzalore

(2,331 posts)
12. She has routinely campaigned for 3rd parties
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 12:09 PM
Mar 2016

Like Bernie being a democrat and dictating what a democrat is.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
18. Bernie's running as a Democrat but don't let the facts get in the way of a good smear.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 12:12 PM
Mar 2016

Boy Bernie really chapped a lot of hides on Saturday.


potone

(1,701 posts)
22. Dictating?
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 12:15 PM
Mar 2016

Bernie represents the ideals of a large part of the Democratic party, as well as many Independents. You may not agree with him, but it is absurd to claim that only Hillary represents Democrats, which seems to be the assumption of many Hillary supporters. Nor is Sarandan dictating to anyone; she is stating her view, which is her right. She also has not said that she would vote for Trump if Hillary wins the nomination, as some Hillary supporters are claiming that she said.

 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
123. Is that even legal?!!? We should really make a law forcing people to vote the way we want.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 01:30 PM
Mar 2016

I don't think there are enough inhalants in the world for me to continue with this stupid line of reasoning.

 

Trajan

(19,089 posts)
201. You're still here? ...
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 08:45 PM
Mar 2016

We decide if Bernie is a Democrat. ..

He is, by the nature of his policies ...

Now, begone ....

Trenzalore

(2,331 posts)
202. Hopefully
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 08:47 PM
Mar 2016

They keep his back bench warm for him in the Senate and Chuck Schumer isn't too hard on him when he gets back and let's him keep his committee assignments after his behavior the past few months.

 

Trajan

(19,089 posts)
203. Damn ... You've only been here for 12 days, and look at ya!
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 08:48 PM
Mar 2016

All full up with the latest snarky b.s. From the master of b.s. ....

12 days and gone ...

longship

(40,416 posts)
17. Naw! It's just the DU Hillary group.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 12:11 PM
Mar 2016

Spinning away!



They aren't interested in any discussion whatsoever. Just division.
 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
27. It is. Check out the Sarandon hate thread-- it's a few names posting over and over,
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 12:19 PM
Mar 2016

and giddily slapping each other on the back.

They're ridiculous.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
26. This isn't 1996. But, just to be clear, women who support Bernie are above criticism
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 12:18 PM
Mar 2016

because they are women, but open season on Hillary because her gender is irrelevant?

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
30. She was fiercely opposed to marriage equality until 2013.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 12:21 PM
Mar 2016

She sold us the Iraq war in 2002 and 2003 and then defended it by calling what we did to the Iraqis the "gift of freedom".

Hillary is being criticzed for her opinions, not for being opinionated.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
34. Fiercely opposed? Come on.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 12:24 PM
Mar 2016

She was the same as Obama, it was chickenshit to be sure, but she wasn't the Phyllis Schlafly or Anita Bryant caricature Team Bernie portrays her as.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
45. Yes, fiercly opposed as in giving speeches trying to convince others to oppose it:
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 12:29 PM
Mar 2016


And a flat out unapologetic NO to same sex couples in New York:



No one is portraying her as anything other than what she was, an opponent of marriage equality.
 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
56. first clip is from .... 2006 and arguing against a constiutional amendment banning same sex
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 12:38 PM
Mar 2016

marriage

second clip is from 2000.

She's followed the same trajectory as Obama has on the issue.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
62. In that clip she defined marriage as a "sacred bond between a man and a woman".
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 12:42 PM
Mar 2016

That's fierce opposition based on religious/moral grounds. It's offensive as hell.

And again with the deflection, she didn't support marriage equality until 2013, long after the rest of the country.

When you need to rely on polls to tell you that civil rights are for everyone you don't get to pretend to be on the right side of history.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
70. it was a speech opposing a constitutional amendment to oppress GLBT Americans
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 12:48 PM
Mar 2016

it was distasteful pandering, and it was almost certainly disingenuous.

this is how politicians are. they don't lead, they follow the public

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
81. She stated her opposition over and over again, who should I believe, Hillary or you?
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 12:54 PM
Mar 2016

She opposed equal rights for same sex couples using the same arguments as the Republicans, that marriage is "sacred" and only hetero couples should be allowed to marry.

Stop trying to spin this, it's a matter of record.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
25. I don't understand your question. Are you comparing Hillary to an actress?
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 12:17 PM
Mar 2016

Susan and Jane are actresses. They are citizens that are paid to entertain us. They can do and say whatever they want.

Hillary is running for POTUS. I don't see any similarities - unless of course you are talking about their body parts.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
28. Susan Sarandon is a Sanders campaign surrogate. Anyone can say whatever they want.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 12:20 PM
Mar 2016

And that means vapid, hyperprivileged doltish celebrities can be criticized when they say stupid stuff.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
32. She is a Bernie supporter. Just as Madeline Albrecht "Burn in Hell" is a Hillary supporter.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 12:23 PM
Mar 2016

Get it?

They BOTH have introduced our candidates at rallies.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
36. and you wrote an OP demanding people lay off Madeline Albright because she's a woman?
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 12:24 PM
Mar 2016

Oh wait, no.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
104. When is the party going to take responsibility
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 01:09 PM
Mar 2016

For the candidates they run? And when are you blaming the conservadems who voted for dubya?

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
112. bashing Dixiecrat/Conservadems is not controversial here.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 01:15 PM
Mar 2016

Voting for Bush made a person functionally a Republican--e.g. Zell Miller.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
134. Yet the folks blamed for Florida
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 02:15 PM
Mar 2016

And every other loss, consistently are never conservadems. You might think you are fooling folks, but you truly are not

On edit, I predict the left will be blamed (again) if your party loses in November. This is at this point tone deaf.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
136. there's no need to blame either/or for Florida, conservadems
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 02:16 PM
Mar 2016

and Naderites both deserve the scorn they get.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
137. Sorry but I never hear anybody blaming the USSC or the Dems for it
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 02:18 PM
Mar 2016

It is rather funny and tone deaf. Now time to write a story about the erasure of a bunch of people in this cycle. It is starting to backfire, and yes, they will be blamed too

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
141. Very rarely and as a reminder when idiots bring, predictably mind you, Nader
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 02:20 PM
Mar 2016

It is hysterical at this point

jillan

(39,451 posts)
37. Not really, Bernie supporters were bashed for going after Madeline Albright because she didn't speak
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 12:26 PM
Mar 2016

for Hillary. She was just a supporter and she could say whatever she wanted.

It's really no different for Susan, is it?

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
43. nobody is going after her for preferring Bernie to Clinton.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 12:28 PM
Mar 2016

They're going after her for preferring the most misogynistic presidential candidate in history--Trump-- to Clinton (a sentiment she was clearly transmitting even if she didn't come out and say it).

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
46. Except she's NOT doing that, people are lying about what she said to vilify her.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 12:30 PM
Mar 2016

She doesn't support Trump, she never said she would vote for him.

It's pretty obvious to anyone who can read.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
58. she gave the standard Rock Bottomer justificiation for letting Trump win--Trump winning
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 12:40 PM
Mar 2016

would smash the status quo and lead to revolution, blah blah blah.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
68. More weaseling, she never said she supported Trump.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 12:47 PM
Mar 2016

But keep digging, watching so-called liberal men trying to shame Susan for not supporting Hillary is very enlightening.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
91. 1) spare me the disengenuous "it's sexism to criticize Sarandon" nonsense;
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 12:59 PM
Mar 2016

it's about as convincing as when Sarah Palin tried to play that card

2) Here's what she said, it's a very clear distillation of the Rock Bottomer dogma:

You know, some people feel that Donald Trump will bring the revolution immediately. If he gets in, then things will really explode.”

Hayes then asked her if she thought that it would be dangerous to allow Trump to become president.

“If you think that it’s pragmatic to shore up the status quo right now, then you’re not in touch with the status quo,” she responded.
“I think it’s dangerous to think we continue the way we are, with a militarized police force, with privatized prisons, with the death penalty, with the low minimum wage, with threats to women’s rights and think that you can’t do something huge to turn that around.”


She very clearly declined to say electing Trump would be dangerous, but said preserving the status quo (i.e. voting for Clinton) would be dangerous.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
98. Thanks for proving my point, you just posted a link proving she doesn't support Trump:
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 01:02 PM
Mar 2016
some people feel that Donald Trump will bring the revolution immediately.


Some people do, where did she say she was one of them? You must have skipped that part, maybe go back and copy/paste again?


If you think that it’s pragmatic to shore up the status quo right now


Nope, still no vote for Trump.

This isn't that difficult, try reading for comprehension.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
100. funny how she flat out refused to suggest that Trump winning would be worse than Clinton
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 01:06 PM
Mar 2016

winning.

Bernie believes that, Susan Sarandon does not.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
50. And that is the whole point! That's her right. Susan Sarandon can vote for whomever she pleases.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 12:32 PM
Mar 2016

So what?
I don't care who she votes for.

I support Bernie but I would never ever ever vote for Trump. Most of the people who do not support Hillary are not voting for Trump. Maybe some, but probably a small minority if even that.

Why all this hand wringing about who Susan Sarandon is going to vote for?


 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
57. Sarandon is a Sanders surrogate. He should not be using her.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 12:39 PM
Mar 2016

Kind of like he shouldn't have been using Cornel West to reach out to black voters.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
67. No - she is a supporter. She has introduced him at some rallies. She does phone banking. She does
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 12:45 PM
Mar 2016

this as a supporter. She is no different than Danny DeVito. But she is not asked by the campaign to travel with them.

Nina Turner is a surrogate.
Tulsi Gabbard is a surrogate.
There's more... but the difference is they are asked by the campaign to speak for them.

George Clooney, Katy Perry - those are examples of Hillary supporters that are activists for Hillary. No one would call them surrogates.

demmiblue

(36,875 posts)
73. Got it... you think a woman and a black man are not powerful in their own right.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 12:49 PM
Mar 2016

They are passive victims of use by others.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
79. No, I think campaigns get to choose who they deploy as surrogates and that
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 12:52 PM
Mar 2016

some surrogates wind up being counterproductive.

Geraldine Ferraro was not an effective surrogate for Hillary in 2008.

demmiblue

(36,875 posts)
84. So, you are saying that Hillary co-signed Ferraro's racist remarks?
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 12:55 PM
Mar 2016

Good to know (though it was obvious from the way she ran her campaign that the two were birds of a feather).

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
95. No, they didn't know what she would say.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 01:00 PM
Mar 2016

That's makes someone a poor surrogate.

Sarandon is a vapid narcissist insulated in a cocoon of privilege, so she will say stupid shit that directly contradicts Sanders.


 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
53. I think even Sarandon herself would be offended by suggesting her doubts with regards to voting
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 12:34 PM
Mar 2016

for Hillary would be analogous to Fonda standing on a North Vietnamese tank during the Viet Nam War. A very lame analogy. A sure sign of desperation is the increased frequency of unforced errors.

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
90. Yup, this is how it happens.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 12:57 PM
Mar 2016

I didn't even know who the Dixie Chicks were until 1 of them spoke out about Dubya.

PFunk1

(185 posts)
94. yup.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 01:00 PM
Mar 2016

And they took a lot of hits for a few years 'til many (not all) in county music to admit they were right. Yet many country stations still wont play their records.

I hope the Ms Sarandon doesn't suffer the Hollywood version because of this.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
69. I guess Saradon has enough money so that she can buy her way out of what ever
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 12:48 PM
Mar 2016

kind of shit befalls the rest of us if Trump were president.

The rest of Bernie supporters not do much which leaves me guessing what are they thinking?

longship

(40,416 posts)
96. Hillary group: 768 blocked DUers!
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 01:01 PM
Mar 2016

No appeals! They are authoritarians. And they don't take kindly to jokes about birds.

Their block message says:


You have been blocked from posting in the Hillary Clinton group by <host>. If you believe this is an error, you may contact <host> for more information.


Except that this is a fucking lie.

The message should read:


You have been blocked from posting in the Hillary Clinton group by <host>. If you believe this is an error, that's too fucking bad. Even if you PM <host> we will ignore you. After all we didn't get 768 blocked DUers by being reasonable or (horrors) actually listening. Like Hillary, we're authoritarians. Deal with it.


That's how they play in the ol' Hillary group, even when one supports their candidate in the GE.

One can post as long as one doesn't look cross-eyed, or (horrors!!!!!) make a joke about a bird, which apparently puts the whole group into apoplexy. Well, I am not sure whether it was the bird or the humor as my inquiry was never responded to, in spite of their blocking PM. I think that they have no sense of humor. Or maybe they just hate birds, since birds like Bernie. My post in no way maligned their candidate.

I think that they all watched Hitchcock's "The Birds" and thought it was real. That is my conclusion. I will stick to it until I receive a PM response. And I will also taunt them until they honor their banning message and explain themselves.

redstateblues

(10,565 posts)
99. Geez- I was banned from the Bernie Group for asking a mild question.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 01:06 PM
Mar 2016

No warnings-I didn't even realize I was there. Very thin skinned over in the Bernie Bus

longship

(40,416 posts)
115. I am a Bernie supporter and I was banned from the Bernie group.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 01:18 PM
Mar 2016

For supporting the DU TOS when one of their so-called members was PPR'd.

I expressed approval for the PPR. Like you, I had no idea that it was the Bernie group. Seconds later I got the banning PM.

At least the host had the fucking decency to correspond with me via PM. We even went back and forth politely. The answer was no, which I still disagree with, but it is their group.

The Hillary group obviously just doesn't care to abide by their own rules. When they say that you can contact the host to appeal what they really mean is: "La la la la la! We don't hear you. La la la la!"

That is maybe why they have 768 DUers blocked, more than any other group.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
187. +1 Me too.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 05:02 PM
Mar 2016

I have no problem with it but this argument that the Hillary Group is any worse is silly.


 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
116. people forget
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 01:20 PM
Mar 2016

Diem, Nhu, Ky all corrupt dictators propped up by the U.S. When they served no purpose to the U.S. PTB at that time, they were done away with in one manner or other. Jane Fonda, rich or not, did what her conscience led her to do. Hell. I'm an army brat whose family has served this country in the military since Buffalo Soldier days. I turned against that 'war' just like I knew the 2nd Iraq incursion was political postering and protecting our oil assets. Look at our mess our leaders made of the region. Susan Sarandon has a right to suppoert anyone she pleases and I will go to the mat to protect that right.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
146. Joe's spirit lives on. And, is often invoked when it comes to left wing activists.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 02:25 PM
Mar 2016
The Fascists will shoot you
The conservatives will applaud the Fascists
The moderates will watch the execution on TV
The Liberals will cry over your grave and regret turning you into the Fascists


On an old SDS button.

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
129. Susan can support whomever she wants. But to see someone so privideged saying with glee
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 01:58 PM
Mar 2016

That having Trump as president would bring the revolution...that had me seeing red.

She'd be watching the "revolution" from her ivory tower, while the rest of the country is isn flames..

 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
155. Yes, and it's much in the same (right-wing) register.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 03:32 PM
Mar 2016

You look at the rants being posted about her here, they'd fit right in to Free Republic.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
161. Spare me the whining
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 03:59 PM
Mar 2016

I would be saying she was a naderite moron if she were a man also. Also Jane Fonda DID apologize for her stupid stunt during the war. She's lucky she didn't get arrested for treason because she certainly did give aid and comfort to the enemy.

RandySF

(59,092 posts)
172. Jane Fonda eventually apologized
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 04:29 PM
Mar 2016

For having her picture taken with artillery used to fire at American servicemen. She grew up to understand her actions have consequences. Something, I suspect, Sarandon never will.

BainsBane

(53,041 posts)
180. Leni Reifinsthal is a better analogy
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 04:49 PM
Mar 2016
https://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10007410

Jane Fonda spoke out against an unjust war, she didn't promote the supposed virtues of a far right-wing candidate backed by the Aryan Nation.

It's really touching to see you stand up for a woman who defends a candidate that seeks to strip away equal rights for women, people of color, and LGBT Americans. Sarandon's courage in defense of white male supremacy--how noble.


When she was supporting Bernie rather than Trump, she announced her decision by insulting women who failed to vote for male candidates by calling them "vagina voters," a misogynist meme repeated often. It seems women can speak their mind as long as they do it in furtherance of male rule.

If you want to see a picture of a woman who has been vilified, none come close to the one in my sig line. So much so that fake "progressives" have declared their intention to support a right-wing hate monger over someone with a long history championing liberal causes. A cynic might say it's because they in fact support the platform and goals of the right over the left.


Depaysement

(1,835 posts)
188. I saw that Jonathan "bernie wasn't there" Capehart was sprinkling his pixie dust today . . .
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 05:02 PM
Mar 2016

. . . all bothered by Susan Sarandon's comments.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
208. because they both have vaginas? :sarcasm:
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 09:21 PM
Mar 2016

Or talent acting?
Can't think of anything else they have in common.

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