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riversedge

(70,242 posts)
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 09:24 PM Mar 2016

“That other candidate on the Dem side did not reach out to us” Holt said, referring to Sanders

Campaigning against gun violence has to be emotionally draining for Hillary at times.


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Clinton pushes gun control at emotional meeting in Wisconsin


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/03/29/clinton-pushes-gun-control-at-emotional-meeting-in-wisconsin/



By Abby Phillip March 29 at 3:59 PM

An audience filled with survivors of gun violence and supporters listen to Hillary Clinton speak at a Milwaukee church on March 29.
(Melina Mara/The Washington Post)

MILWAUKEE — Tears flowed freely and shouts — sometimes sobs — echoed through the sanctuary during an event with Democratic presidential front-runner Hillary Clinton on gun control at Tabernacle Community Baptist Church in Milwaukee on Tuesday.

"There is no type of pain that you can describe other than getting a phone call and you being hundreds of miles away and somebody saying to you, your child is no longer here,” said Geneva Reed-Veal, whose daughter Sandra Bland died in police custody after she was arrested during a routine traffic stop.

As Reed-Veal said the words, another woman sat in the back of the church and cried out “Noooo!”.........................

The harshest words for Sanders were delivered by Clinton surrogates Annette Nance-Holt, whose son Blair Holt was killed while riding a bus home from school, and Reed-Veal as they exhorted the audience to vote for Clinton.

“That other candidate on the Democratic side did not reach out to us,” Holt said, referring to Sanders. She added that while Sanders talks about free college tuition, “if my child is dead, he can’t go to college."..............

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“That other candidate on the Dem side did not reach out to us” Holt said, referring to Sanders (Original Post) riversedge Mar 2016 OP
That last line "if my child is dead, he can't go to college" ....Wow!!! UMTerp01 Mar 2016 #1
Anyone See Just A Hint of HYPOCRISY Here? CorporatistNation Mar 2016 #2
THANKS TO AMBORIN FOR THIS INFORMATION! CorporatistNation Mar 2016 #3
They don't see the hypocrisy Politicalboi Mar 2016 #4
She can still fight them and still take their money. nothing wrong with that. Jitter65 Mar 2016 #11
Supporters of Annie Oakley the flip flopper? I really doubt it. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #5
#WhichHillary? One election she's #ThatHillary, next election she's #ThisHillary. nc4bo Mar 2016 #10
With Hillary as president their kids can grow up and then die in uniform on foreign soil. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #6
I wouldn't have contacted them, either. Wilms Mar 2016 #7
Emotionally Draining? It is when you are fighting a duality within your own psyche! nt TheBlackAdder Mar 2016 #8
what does that mean? nt geek tragedy Mar 2016 #12
Jesus. My heart breaks for one_voice Mar 2016 #9
Opportunistic does not equal Empathy and.... Bern2WinUSA Mar 2016 #13
 

UMTerp01

(1,048 posts)
1. That last line "if my child is dead, he can't go to college" ....Wow!!!
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 09:25 PM
Mar 2016

That is very powerful!!!! Very powerful indeed!!!

CorporatistNation

(2,546 posts)
2. Anyone See Just A Hint of HYPOCRISY Here?
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 09:45 PM
Mar 2016
https://theintercept.com/2016/03/01/nra-lobbyist-will-co-host-clinton-fundraiser/

Clinton Fundraiser

Published 9:47 am Sunday, March 20, 2016

Here is the invitation for the lobbyists for Hillary Clinton Fundraiser: www.willhillarywin.com/events/washington-d-c-lunch-with-john-podesta-campaign-chair/.

Lobbyists for the National Rifle Association & Wall Street are hosting a fundraiser for Hillary Clinton in Washington on March 21 featuring her campaign manager John Podesta.

The host lobbyists include Jeff Forbes, who lobbied for the NRA from 2009 until 2015, Steve Elmendorf, who runs Subject Matter, “a go-to Democratic lobbying firm for corporate interests, raking more than $10 million in fees last year.” with clients: Goldman Sachs, Citigroup, Verizon, and Monsanto.

David Castagnetti co-founded Mehlman Castagnetti, one of Washington’s top-grossing lobbying firms, lobbying on behalf of Valeant Pharmaceuticals; under investigation by the SEC for drug pricing practices.

Joel Johnson Managing Director with The Glover Park Group which takes credit for the 2012 Campaign to Fix the Debt an effort to slash earned benefit programs such as Social Security and Medicare under the guise of fixing the nation’s “debt problem.”
 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
4. They don't see the hypocrisy
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 10:04 PM
Mar 2016

They see Bernie's vote against the Brady Bill. The NRA, A gun in every house Rah! Rah! Rah!

It must be emotionally draining on Hillary to cash those checks.

 

Jitter65

(3,089 posts)
11. She can still fight them and still take their money. nothing wrong with that.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 10:23 PM
Mar 2016

Do what is right no matter where your money comes from.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
5. Supporters of Annie Oakley the flip flopper? I really doubt it.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 10:07 PM
Mar 2016
Hillary hits Obama on faith, guns

Yesterday, Clinton hit Obama for calling Pennsylvanians "bitter," ground on which he fairly ably engaged.
Today, she's onto the other half of his San Francisco remarks, in which he linked economic frustration to clinging to religion and guns (the part he sought to walk back this morning in Muncie, Ind.).

"Sen. Obama's remarks are elitist, and they are out of touch," Clinton said. "The people of faith I know don't 'cling to' religion because they're bitter. ... I also disagree with Sen. Obama's assertion that people in this country 'cling to guns' and have certain attitudes about immigration or trade simply out of frustration. People of all walks of life hunt — and they enjoy doing so because it's an important part of their life, not because they are bitter."

http://www.politico.com/blogs/ben-smith/2008/04/hillary-hits-obama-on-faith-guns-007747


Hillary Clinton goes bold on gun safety — but she sounded a different note in 2008

But Clinton hasn’t always been so forceful in her fight for gun control. As the Post highlights, Clinton has dramatically shifted her tone on gun control since the 2008 campaign. While Clinton touted her husband’s record record on gun control (former President Bill Clinton signed into the law an assault weapons ban that has since lapsed) she also heralded personal memories of learning to shoot with her father and defend gun ownership, saying, “there is not a contradiction between protecting Second Amendment rights” and the effort to reduce crime.

You know, my dad took me out behind the cottage that my grandfather built on a little lake called Lake Winola outside of Scranton and taught me how to shoot when I was a little girl,” Clinton said while campaigning ahead of the Indiana primary, where white working class Democrats propelled her to a narrow victory over then-Sen. Barack Obama. “You know, some people now continue to teach their children and their grandchildren. It’s part of culture. It’s part of a way of life. People enjoy hunting and shooting because it’s an important part of who they are. Not because they are bitter,” she continued, in a dig at Obama’s remark at a fundraiser that disenfranchised Americans often “cling” to cultural symbols like guns and religion.

http://www.salon.com/2015/07/10/hillary_clinton_goes_bold_on_gun_safety_but_she_sounded_a_different_note_in_2008/




Clinton's Hunting History

WAUSAU, WIS. -- At a campaign stop this afternoon, Hillary Clinton's focus was on the economy and health care but some in the crowd had other things on their minds. Clinton was asked to discuss gun control which prompted Clinton to talk about her days holding a rifle in the cold, shallow waters in backwoods Arkansas.

"I've hunted. My father taught me how to hunt. I went duck hunting in Arkansas. I remember standing in that cold water, so cold, at first light. I was with a bunch of my friends, all men. The sun's up, the ducks are flying and they are playing a trick on me. They said, 'we're not going to shoot, you shoot.' They wanted to embarrass me. The pressure was on. So I shot, and I shot a banded duck and they were surprised as I was," Clinton said drawing laughter from the crowd.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/clintons-hunting-history/



Let states & cities determine local gun laws

Q: Do you support the DC handgun ban?

A: I want to give local communities the authority over determining how to keep their citizens safe. This case you’re referring to is before the Supreme Court.

Q: But what do you support?

A: I support sensible regulation that is consistent with the constitutional right to own and bear arms.

Q: Is the DC ban consistent with that right?

A: I think a total ban, with no exceptions under any circumstances, might be found by the court not to be. But DC or anybody else [should be able to] come up with sensible regulations to protect their people.

Q: But do you still favor licensing and registration of handguns?

A: What I favor is what works in NY. We have one set of rules in NYC and a totally different set of rules in the rest of the state. What might work in NYC is certainly not going to work in Montana. So, for the federal government to be having any kind of blanket rules that they’re going to try to impose, I think doesn’t make sense.

Source: 2008 Philadelphia primary debate, on eve of PA primary , Apr 16, 2008

http://www.ontheissues.org/2016/Hillary_Clinton_Gun_Control.htm





nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
10. #WhichHillary? One election she's #ThatHillary, next election she's #ThisHillary.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 10:22 PM
Mar 2016

Despicable pandering to people who have lost so much.

She uses people as props then tosses 'em when politically convenient to do so.



beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
6. With Hillary as president their kids can grow up and then die in uniform on foreign soil.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 10:09 PM
Mar 2016

See how that works?

The appeal to emotion fallacy is very powerful but since both candidates support gun control and neither would be able to get it passed it's just campaign rhetoric. Hillary is exploiting these parents to get more votes.

Shameful.

If you care about the issue you should attack Republicans, not liberals who are on your side.

 

Wilms

(26,795 posts)
7. I wouldn't have contacted them, either.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 10:10 PM
Mar 2016

Seems really inappropriate to prey on those who are grieving.

Tens of thousands of Americans die each year from gun violence.

Someone tell me. How many of them did the Clinton campaign contact? And what was the criteria that narrowed their search?

 

Bern2WinUSA

(44 posts)
13. Opportunistic does not equal Empathy and....
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 07:28 PM
Mar 2016

do a bit of research and learn the Hil this month got a big $ donation from the NRA. Think she feels your pain/agony? Think again.

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