2016 Postmortem

snowy owl

(2,145 posts) Wed Mar 30, 2016, 04:27 AM Mar 2016

Arizona Secretary of State Confirms Election Fraud Happened in State Primary (VIDEO)

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“This was something that I know happens, and I know it happened to people in this room. It’s not hearsay. It happened to someone in my own office. One of my employees was registered as a particular party, went to go vote, and I don’t want to divulge his personal details, but it happened to him.”

http://usuncut.com/politics/arizona-election-fraud-primary/

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Arizona Secretary of State Confirms Election Fraud Happened in State Primary (VIDEO) (Original Post) snowy owl Mar 2016 OP

I watched it live. pugetres Mar 2016 #1

because she won. Cobalt Violet Mar 2016 #2

That is pragmatic. Downwinder Mar 2016 #4

I get that, I really do. pugetres Mar 2016 #5

Exactly. senz Mar 2016 #12

You got it! 'Cui bono'! Peace Patriot Mar 2016 #3

It really is hard to understand, isn't it. The election democracy died. snowy owl Mar 2016 #6

Now what are they going to do about it going forward? Aerows Mar 2016 #7

bet it does happen in those states. Cobalt Violet Mar 2016 #8

and now Bernie left of DC ballot? snowy owl Mar 2016 #9

I saw that. But of course they're reprinting the ballots, right? Peace Patriot Mar 2016 #10

See http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511612332 snowy owl Mar 2016 #11

pugetres

(507 posts)

1. I watched it live.

Reply to snowy owl (Original post)

Wed Mar 30, 2016, 04:51 AM

Mar 2016

And, then I was shocked to see her (Reagan?) testimony regarded (or is that disregarded) by a segment of the people that make up DU as "right wing conspiracy theory".

I cannot understand the cavalier dismissal of election fraud that is expressed on this site.

Cobalt Violet

(9,905 posts)

2. because she won.

Reply to pugetres (Reply #1)

Wed Mar 30, 2016, 04:55 AM

Mar 2016

And it really doesn't matter if it was via stealing it or fraud or not. Who did it benefit?

There is a reason she won't release her transcripts. There is a reason she hasn't stood up to the several types of fraud that happened in AZ.

Downwinder

(12,869 posts)

4. That is pragmatic.

Reply to Cobalt Violet (Reply #2)

Wed Mar 30, 2016, 05:10 AM

Mar 2016

pugetres

(507 posts)

5. I get that, I really do.

Reply to Cobalt Violet (Reply #2)

Wed Mar 30, 2016, 05:13 AM

Mar 2016

But, going beyond the Democratic contest...

I saw republican voters telling how their affiliation was changed. I'm appalled that anyone who considers themselves to be a Democrat could dismiss complaints of voters who were disenfranchised through no fault of their own regardless of those voters' political affiliations. That attitude is something that I would expect from a neocon, not from a liberal.

I do get it. But, I'm still disappointed and disgusted.

senz

(11,945 posts)

12. Exactly.

Reply to Cobalt Violet (Reply #2)

Wed Mar 30, 2016, 08:01 PM

Mar 2016

They subscribe to the same set of ethics as their candidate.

Peace Patriot

(24,010 posts)

3. You got it! 'Cui bono'!

Reply to pugetres (Reply #1)

Wed Mar 30, 2016, 05:10 AM

Mar 2016

It is not being opposed--and is even being ridiculed--by Clinton supporters because she won--or at least that's what got announced with 1% of precincts reporting and thousands of people still standing in 4 to 6 hour lines waiting to vote, then to find, when they reached the front, that they couldn't vote because their registrations had been changed without their knowledge.

Doesn't bother Clinton supporters. Doesn't bother Clinton. Oh, she might swoop in and offer "to look into it." Ha-ha-ha on the disenfranchised voters. And she'll have "a plan" to fix it all some day. But probably she won't even bother to spit in their faces. They're so done. Stick a fork in them! Onward to my Destiny!

snowy owl

(2,145 posts)

6. It really is hard to understand, isn't it. The election democracy died.

Reply to Peace Patriot (Reply #3)

Wed Mar 30, 2016, 06:41 AM

Mar 2016

Aerows

(39,961 posts)

7. Now what are they going to do about it going forward?

Reply to snowy owl (Original post)

Wed Mar 30, 2016, 06:54 AM

Mar 2016

The standard "mistakes were made" bullcrap isn't sufficient. Firing an intern isn't sufficient. They need to do a revote.

They are gearing up for this shit to happen in New York, California, and Pennsylvania.

If we let "officials throw up hands, say oops" and move along, nobody has actually voted.

We might as well just halt the fucking process of pretending that a vote matters and just stay home and let the D/R establishment decide who they want to be President, which will have catastrophic results down ticket.