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NorthCarolina

(11,197 posts)
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 09:08 AM Mar 2016

The Disappearance of Hillary Clinton's Healthcare Platform



In an extraordinary magic trick, performed on a national scale, Hillary Clinton's healthcare platform has been disappeared. While policy analysts, news anchors, and columnists have been engaged in an intense debate over Bernie Sanders’s “Medicare for All” proposal, Clinton’s incremental alternative has escaped almost all scrutiny - even among those who say they prefer it.

Combining the election-season writings of our most prolific, liberal-leaning columnists at the New York Times, Huffington Post, Vox, Mother Jones, Politico, The American Prospect, etc. you’ll find dozens of articles critiquing Sanders's single-payer plan. None have mentioned a single Clinton healthcare proposal as a point of comparison - merely that she supports a philosphy of incremental reform.

Take Paul Krugman, a high-profile advocate of Clinton's approach to healthcare reform. Krugman has published two op-eds in the New York Times and five additional blog posts arguing that "[progressives] should seek incremental change on health care... and focus their main efforts on other issues - that is... Bernie Sanders is wrong about this and Hillary Clinton is right." In all seven pieces, Krugman focuses exclusively on Sanders's single-payer proposal and fails to mention even a single Clinton policy.

The disappearance of the Clinton healthcare platform has even been carried out by pollsters. The Kaiser Health Tracking Survey included a bizarre question in its February 2016 poll, which was widely cited in the press. Respondents were asked to pick one of four possible directions for the future of U.S. healthcare. Among the choices were "The U.S. should establish guaranteed universal coverage through a single government plan" and "Lawmakers should build on the existing health care law to improve affordability and access to care." Thirty-three percent of Democrats chose the single-payer option, while fifty-four percent chose the incremental option. The questions were clearly intended as stand-ins for the Sanders and Clinton healthcare proposals, but note that the single-payer option is a policy, whereas the incremental option mentions no actual policies, but asks respondents whether they support the (universally desirable) outcomes of improving affordability and access.

What would happen if the media lifted the curtain on Clinton's healthcare platform and introduced any level of scrutiny to her proposed improvements on the Affordable Care Act? They would find.....

Link: http://www.commondreams.org/views/2016/03/30/disappearance-hillary-clintons-healthcare-platform


The jury is in, the people want single payer healthcare to come to America. The promise pf some "incremental change" and "vague" approaches as proffered by Hillary just don't cut the mustard.

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NorthCarolina

(11,197 posts)
3. Since I'm pretty sure you didn't click on the link and READ the article
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 09:18 AM
Mar 2016

here's an excerpt you likely missed:

Previous national trends in incremental healthcare reform - from managed care through pharmacy benefit management, chronic disease management, narrow networks, and beyond - have often created lucrative new industries, but had dubious impacts on underlying healthcare costs or access to care. Most of Clinton's healthcare platform falls exactly into these danger zones, and should be received with a critical eye.

apnu

(8,758 posts)
15. The notion of incremental change is sound.
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 12:07 PM
Mar 2016

The practice, as its laid out, is vulnerable to corruption and exploitation.

Single payer is the better way, less opportunities for corruption and exploitation, thought they still exist because all governments suffer corruption and exploitation, but at least we'd know where the source is.

But, and America has shown this a few times, Single Payer is a big change all at once. America recoils from such things usually, so small changes leading towards Single Payer is the more practical approach.

 

NorthCarolina

(11,197 posts)
16. If you vote for "incremental" change
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 12:11 PM
Mar 2016

don't be shocked when nothing changes. Incremental change is just an excuse to delay and bury.

 

pinebox

(5,761 posts)
4. She is wishy washy
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 09:20 AM
Mar 2016

Supported single payer, now she doesn't. It sounds like every other issue when it comes to Hillary.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
5. In truth, these "incremental steps" will never get us to single payer. Never.
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 09:51 AM
Mar 2016

Notice that none of them actually take insurance profits out of the equation.

SwampG8r

(10,287 posts)
10. In school years ago
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 10:37 AM
Mar 2016

A teacher showed how you can get half way on every step but never get to the goal.
The point of incrementalism is to keep us from actually ever taking a.step that gets us to the goal.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
12. I absolutely guarantee you that we would be no worse off under Sanders than Clinton
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 11:34 AM
Mar 2016

Meanwhile things will very likely get much worse under Clinton. I will be casting my vote for the only candidate who will even try to fix the major problems. The implementation of Obamacare has cost me a fortune on my healthcare, and it will get worse if Hillary and Ryan "compromise" on another "incremental step". But that is not why I object to it. I object to it because it locks every American into contributing to the Big Insurance profits, forever. that means we will, in perpetuity, be paying 20% overhead to people who serve no purpose whatsoever. The Heritage Foundation knew this when they wrote it, Newt Gingrinch knew this when he tried to pass it, and President Obama knew this when he signed it.

BernieforPres2016

(3,017 posts)
6. Hillary is backpedaling via Chelsea's comments about the "crushing costs" of Obamacare
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 09:52 AM
Mar 2016
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=post&forum=1251&pid=1608306

<Elsewhere in Obamacare news, the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office (CBO) has yet again slashed enrollment projections, downgrading an already-dramatically-reduced figure they produced earlier this year:

The Congressional Budget Office on Thursday slightly lowered its projections for ObamaCare enrollment, trimming its tally by about 1 million people. About 12 million people are now expected to have ObamaCare coverage by the end of 2016, according to the nonpartisan budget office. Just three months ago, the office had predicted that 13 million people would have coverage. The latest enrollment estimate is an even steeper drop from the CBO's estimates from 2015, which predicted 21 million people would have marketplace coverage by this time...It’s the latest sign of struggle for the Obama administration as it looks to boost sign-ups before the president leaves office next year.

As John Sexton notes, one of the reason given for the scaled-back estimate is a drop among enrollees not eligible for taxpayer subsidies. "In other words, CBO lowered the estimate because people who don’t get a subsidy just are not buying Obamacare coverage. Unfortunately, it’s those people who were expected to offset the costs of subsidizing everyone else," he writes.>


From what Bernie said on CNN yesterday, there is likely to be a debate in Brooklyn before the New York primary. I wonder if Chelsea's comment will be brought up and Hillary will be forced to state where she is on healthcare right now. I doubt the moderators will do it. Hopefully Bernie will.

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
7. American Exceptionalism
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 09:56 AM
Mar 2016

Our allowing for profit healthcare makes us unique, in a very bad way, from about any non tinhorn nation.

It is just wrong. CEOs making billions while cancer patients go bankrupt while trying to fight that disease. It is immoral, no executives should get wealthy on others suffering.

rgbecker

(4,832 posts)
8. If Hillary gets in, we will be hearing more about Malpractice insurance reform too.
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 10:27 AM
Mar 2016

Deal with the GOP and you get crap.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
14. Hillary held closed hearing for months - just a look at who
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 11:58 AM
Mar 2016

was invited to those hearing would probably open eyes.

 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
17. She has no plan to cover the 30 million people with no insurance.
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 12:14 PM
Mar 2016

Obamacare was a step in the right direction but some people think it solved the health care crisis. It certainly did not.
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