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Csainvestor

(388 posts)
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 01:20 PM Mar 2016

Ezra at VOX could be a shill and here is why

Most people pay directly out of every single paycheck medical premiums. It might as well be a tax because it's taken off your gross income. Ezra ignores premium payments deducted from our paychecks, and pretends that we will all be paying a new tax.

He ignores the premium payments we all make, and pretends the tax will be in addition to what we already pay.
In reality, the premium payment to for profit insurance will go away, and it will be replaced with a tax.

But to most people, they won't notice a change, in fact they should take home more pay as single payer should cost less than for profit insurance.

VOX is owned by commcast i believe.

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Atman

(31,464 posts)
3. If you're bothering to read this, you're probably not ignorant.
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 01:24 PM
Mar 2016

The rest are home watching The Kardashians and Duck Dynasty.

Csainvestor

(388 posts)
5. he straight up misinformed and disinformed
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 01:26 PM
Mar 2016

some might call it a lie by omission.

Yes, we will pay a new tax, but that tax will replace the deduction we already make. We already pay (by deduction) for profit insurance. So there are two sides to the ledger, New tax on one side, One eliminated bill to the for profit insurance on the other side.

They won't just cancel each other out, single payer should cost less, because it will get rid of the for profit middle men.

 

revbones

(3,660 posts)
7. Vox is no better than Blue Nation Review
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 01:41 PM
Mar 2016

and should be treated as such now. Ezra is just becoming another Peter Daou and David Brock

 

CentralCoaster

(1,163 posts)
8. Bingo. They host a deceptive Bernie tax increase "calculator".
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 01:59 PM
Mar 2016

I won't link it but it's been linked before.

I ran my numbers and the results were bogus, and it doesn't account for savings in health premiums.

It's a bullshit pro corporate business as usual site.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
9. Does the Sanders campaign have it's own calculator or chart? Because they would likely report on
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 02:02 PM
Mar 2016

that for balance, if he had prepared something. Reporters share information they get from a lot of sources- is Sanders not prepared for that?

musiclawyer

(2,335 posts)
12. Vox is trash
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 02:43 PM
Mar 2016

Klein might be young and smart but his bread is getting buttered and that's that.
Vox has an anti progressive slant always , like MSNBC is now. It's part of the neoliberal MSM -- a relatively new thing.
Big media knows they can't out fox Fox, so they have decided the DINO's are safe. Same with CNN NYT WAPO etc

But longterm it won't work. Everyday older folks who watch tv and read without questioning the source are dying off , replaced by even more younger voters who can spot bullshit a mile away and don't even engage with MSM

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