2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumIf you think Hillary Clinton will protect Social Security you're nuts
Bill was ready to privatize as we read here today:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027724810
We know Obama wanted a "Grand Bargain..."
Tony James arrives as a panel member for the breakout session at the Clinton Global Initiative 2014 (CGI) in New York, September 23, 2014.
Tony James looks beyond Blackstone
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-blackstone-group-james-exclusive-idUSKCN0JI0C620141204
Reuters has learned that James was offered the job of commerce secretary when President Barack Obama reshuffled his cabinet two years ago. He turned down the previously undisclosed offer because he wanted the post of Treasury secretary or national economic adviser, one of the sources who was briefed about the offer said. The White House did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
For those who do not know, Peterson is the founder of Blackstone
There is only one candidate for President that is talking about expanding Social Security.
More on Blackstone: http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511610770
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,641 posts)And it ain't good for us.
We're not in the club that it would be good for.
tk2kewl
(18,133 posts)And I know there is only one person in this race whose not in the club and is working exclusively for those of us who aren't in it either.
Baobab
(4,667 posts)Basically the question hinges in no small part on the following text..
"For the purposes of this Agreement
(b) 'services' includes any service in any sector except services supplied in the exercise of governmental authority;
(c) 'a service supplied in the exercise of governmental authority' means any service which is supplied neither on a commercial basis, nor in competition with one or more service suppliers."
tk2kewl
(18,133 posts)Very important
I have been following your posts fairly regularly. Why do you think Bernie doesn't get into these details? Because it complicates the message?
Baobab
(4,667 posts)Perhaps because its so horrible.
peacebird
(14,195 posts)CorporatistNation
(2,546 posts)THIS IS FASCISM!
http://www.rense.com/general37/char.htm
Fourteen Defining
Characteristics Of Fascism
By Dr. Lawrence Britt
Source Free Inquiry.co
5-28-3
Dr. Lawrence Britt has examined the fascist regimes of Hitler (Germany), Mussolini (Italy), Franco (Spain), Suharto (Indonesia) and several Latin American regimes. Britt found 14 defining characteristics common to each:
1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism - Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.
2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights - Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.
3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause - The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.
4. Supremacy of the Military - Even when there are widespread
domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.
5. Rampant Sexism - The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Divorce, abortion and homosexuality are suppressed and the state is represented as the ultimate guardian of the family institution.
6. Controlled Mass Media - Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.
7. Obsession with National Security - Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.
8. Religion and Government are Intertwined - Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions.
9. Corporate Power is Protected - The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.
10. Labor Power is Suppressed - Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed.
11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts - Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts and letters is openly attacked.
12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment - Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.
13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption - Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.
14. Fraudulent Elections - Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.
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CharlotteVale
(2,717 posts)Wall Street.
Baobab
(4,667 posts)And she will do it. this isn't an open issue, i am sure.
She just wants to look like she might be open to doing what is best for the country. thats all thats needed to a lesser of two evils.
Look at what happened with Glass-Steagall and the 1995 FTA.
(this is also what Obama was arguing with Elizabeth Warren about, BTW)
tk2kewl
(18,133 posts)that Hillary is the candidate that will close the deal on the financialization of everything. A global economy run by and for Wall St
Baobab
(4,667 posts)How this will happen is described here:
A Plan Only Banksters Will Love: WikiLeaks Reveals Trade Deal Pushing Global Financial Deregulation | Democracy Now!
grntuscarora
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suffragette
(12,232 posts)So freakin' spot on!
Downwinder
(12,869 posts)2cannan
(344 posts)thanks for adding
Uncle Joe
(58,367 posts)Thanks for the thread, tk2kewl.
tk2kewl
(18,133 posts)read more about Hillary and Blackstone here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511610770
Scuba
(53,475 posts)k8conant
(3,030 posts)that HRC wants to attack.
JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,350 posts)... and I doubt that many changes will affect me. Chained CPI would be a hit, if I live long enough.
But the changes will just destroy it for the next generations.
The only change I'd like is to tie cost-of-living to the cost of things that affect seniors. As a group, I'd guess we burn less gasoline, use more drugs and other medical services, buy less food, etc, so the common cola calculations don't really fit retirees. (disclaimer: all my assumptions are just that, assumptions, to be studied by smarter people than me)
The best bet is to elect Sanders. Other than that, hope prez Clinton keeps her mitts off social security.
G_j
(40,367 posts)tk2kewl
(18,133 posts)Impedimentus
(898 posts)Hillary is the next president. Never trust Republican-lite.
FEEL THE BERN - 2016
brooklynite
(94,602 posts)...why has Elizabeth Warren refused to endorse Sanders?
snowy owl
(2,145 posts)Warren has leverage as long as she fails to endorse. She is a more powerful advocate if she doesn't fritter away her influence with election endorsements. She stays independent and influential.
People who pay attention can see the similarities between Warren's ideas and Bernie's. Other people seem to need it spelled out for them.
Baobab
(4,667 posts)Warren nailed it in her argument with Obama on whether a trade organization like WTO could tell us to change our domestic regulations.
The fact is, they can and likely will.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)get elected.
tk2kewl
(18,133 posts)funniest post today
senz
(11,945 posts)... and around our necks.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)90s. Does anyone really think that money would be safe in that casino?
eridani
(51,907 posts)I sure didn't. When Clinton talked about helping lower income seniors, that sounded just like the Catfood Commission plan back in 2010. Cut Social Security, and then replace the money for those in the lowest quintile. Then call all the seniors who object selfish greedy geezers who don't want to help poor people.