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Young women interrupt HRC rally today (Original Post) grasswire Mar 2016 OP
Why should she be amused ? It was rude and disrespecting the rights of the other attendees. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #1
I'm sure you came to Bernie's defense as quickly when BLM interrupted his speech n/t SheenaR Mar 2016 #3
How did Bernie react to that? democrattotheend Mar 2016 #10
He handed them the microphone n/t SheenaR Mar 2016 #15
I think they just took the mic and he stood there. nt WhiteTara Mar 2016 #22
+1 Marissa Janae Johnson, one of the BLM activists there that day, has gone on the record to protest CalvinballPro Mar 2016 #48
The video & photographs show Bernie standing silently to the side. senz Mar 2016 #59
Marissa is still lying about it too. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #61
Strong need for attention, notoriety, fame. senz Mar 2016 #72
I agree, there was also anti-Semitism behind her hatred. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #73
Fundie? Farrakhan? That's nutzy-wutzy extremism, afaic. senz Mar 2016 #90
One of the hashtags she used along with #bowdownbernie was #freepalestine beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #93
Of course you would. Of course... CalvinballPro Mar 2016 #66
By stepping aside he gave them the mic and let them speak. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #67
A few things you need to understand, CalvinballPro. senz Mar 2016 #86
Thank you. Because even your version isn't consistent with "Bernie let them speak", so now we know CalvinballPro Mar 2016 #100
It's totally consistent senz Mar 2016 #105
Ad hominem. Classy. Of course you couldn't resist ending with a personal insult. CalvinballPro Mar 2016 #111
Only in response to yours, sweetheart. senz Mar 2016 #119
LMAO. polly7 Mar 2016 #117
you are entitled to your 'version' of what is shown on the video(s)... islandmkl Mar 2016 #128
whatever you do, don't believe you're lying eyes. lumberjack_jeff Mar 2016 #89
And then Media lied about it Gwhittey Mar 2016 #33
was she the one that was especially nasty? screaming in his face? wendylaroux Mar 2016 #55
I believe that anyone who is so narcissistic as to think that they have the right to disrupt a Trust Buster Mar 2016 #14
Spoken like a true Fascist. GeorgiaPeanuts Mar 2016 #18
You defend the defenseless. It was rude and stomping on the rights of others. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #21
excellent grasswire Mar 2016 #44
She used that same line in Minnesota Kalidurga Mar 2016 #52
Why shouildn't a young woman go out and run for something? Retrograde Mar 2016 #84
That is actually a totalitarian mindset CoffeeCat Mar 2016 #53
Sanders people will never understand that you're not the only ones with rights. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #96
No one is taking away anyone's rights CoffeeCat Mar 2016 #97
She didn't have that right. That's why she got yanked. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #98
Actually, it is a right CoffeeCat Mar 2016 #101
Well, then let's see if they file a lawsuit. Of course they won't. They had no right and were yanked Trust Buster Mar 2016 #121
Excuses, excuses....but asuhornets Mar 2016 #65
Millennials understand their future has been sold down the river. n/t Skwmom Mar 2016 #2
sure it does. It sends a strong message. ChairmanAgnostic Mar 2016 #6
So glad they do. One of the happiest developments this country has seen. senz Mar 2016 #68
I Appreciate Those Young Women... STANDING STRONG TO STOP FASCISM! CorporatistNation Apr 2016 #133
Heckling doesn't do much KingFlorez Mar 2016 #3
Post removed Post removed Mar 2016 #7
Amen GeorgiaPeanuts Mar 2016 #11
The bans from that groups arre based on the abuse from people who vioalted the rules of that synergie Mar 2016 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author Bobbie Jo Mar 2016 #28
Jury results DeadLetterOffice Mar 2016 #32
Thanks.. GeorgiaPeanuts Mar 2016 #34
Those numbers reflect disruptive people who only want to instigate KingFlorez Mar 2016 #16
Pre-emptive banning? Love it. Buns_of_Fire Mar 2016 #39
Name one thing Hillary listens to.... daleanime Mar 2016 #9
Facts, reality, scientists, mayors, mothers, fathers, children, doctors etc.? synergie Mar 2016 #23
Which is how she decided that our foreign policy.... daleanime Mar 2016 #27
Gee, if only those right wing fantasies of yours were not completely made up and synergie Mar 2016 #30
Hillary listens to THIS guy, bvar22 Mar 2016 #42
That makes money.... daleanime Mar 2016 #45
Depends on what she wants. If it's votes, she'll listen to voters senz Mar 2016 #49
I bet she wasn't! Hopefully there's video. n/t Avalux Mar 2016 #5
But I'm sure she is excited that they are voting. thereismore Mar 2016 #13
There was video noretreatnosurrender Mar 2016 #113
It was rude and kinda stupid, was anyone amused? synergie Mar 2016 #8
I was amused... I was... GeorgiaPeanuts Mar 2016 #12
Yes, but you guys are amused by silly things like birds, so really, that's not saying much. synergie Mar 2016 #24
chuckle riversedge Mar 2016 #87
Pffft. senz Mar 2016 #91
Oh, I see the Sanders camp has copied a hashtag #Heswithus. Imitation is the best riversedge Mar 2016 #92
You just noticed that NOW? We've had it for a couple of months. senz Mar 2016 #94
Yup. just noticed. I like the original. #ImwithHer cause #shesWithUs riversedge Mar 2016 #95
#Sheisnotforyou hrmbaja Mar 2016 #106
LMAO .... there are birds and then there are birds!! n/t cosmicone Mar 2016 #118
I love the fact that women stood up to Hillary. senz Mar 2016 #51
Weren't they Greenpeace Supporters that she Attacked? KoKo Mar 2016 #115
Pretty sure it's two different groups on two different occasions -- senz Mar 2016 #122
I'll see if I can find it on Bloomberg Videos to post. KoKo Mar 2016 #123
Thanks! senz Mar 2016 #125
Here's the only one I could find..Well worth the Watch but Disgusting! KoKo Mar 2016 #129
Here it is xloadiex Mar 2016 #126
Thanks, xloadiex. Oh, how ugly and despicable! senz Mar 2016 #130
She had 3 fundraising/1 organizing event today. Divernan Mar 2016 #19
Um, seriously? You actually think that security perimeters are set by the candidate and synergie Mar 2016 #31
Kudos to those young women... HumanityExperiment Mar 2016 #20
At least they didn't get maced felix_numinous Mar 2016 #25
This is nothing to cheer about. 21st Century Poet Mar 2016 #26
it'd count as an interruption if Clinton were actually saying something MisterP Mar 2016 #29
And just who are you leftynyc Mar 2016 #38
You're right -- it does Amaril Mar 2016 #63
Perhaps leftynyc Mar 2016 #70
Nope. Said exactly what I meant. Amaril Mar 2016 #74
Then you're dishonest leftynyc Mar 2016 #83
See also: Results of the NY primaries in three weeks. hrmbaja Mar 2016 #107
I think Hillary will win NY leftynyc Apr 2016 #132
It was a fund raiser. Totaly different in my eyes/ Gwhittey Mar 2016 #35
If the stupid kids had done it at a Trump rally cosmicone Mar 2016 #120
They have a right to protest, but Clinton has the right to have them, cordially, escorted out Tarc Mar 2016 #36
That is how it is supposed to work. If the protester isnt arrested or removed, and are entirely Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #80
Thanks. loved the video. Today--the women chanted--then walked out on their own riversedge Mar 2016 #114
This was a Greenpeace Activist that she called Bernie People.. KoKo Mar 2016 #116
The disturbing of campaign events leftynyc Mar 2016 #37
You seem nice astrophuss42 Mar 2016 #56
I'm not a fan of this tactic. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #40
I would say it was staged Rosa Luxemburg Mar 2016 #47
It could have been. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #78
That's what I thought also, Hillary had her response preplanned. A false flag 'attack' to make her peacebird Mar 2016 #102
I can't handle screamers. Of any kind. Manifestor_of_Light Mar 2016 #79
I agree, I totally support blm's right to protest but that was counterproductive. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #82
Tsk..Tsk. Poor Hillary. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #41
"She wins -- we lose" bvar22 Mar 2016 #43
It would make a GREAT bumper sticker. senz Mar 2016 #46
I don't care if they were Bernie supporters or not Nightjock Mar 2016 #50
A little heckling is always good for PR marions ghost Mar 2016 #75
That is so totally FAKE! marions ghost Mar 2016 #54
When I saw the video I thought the same thing. Avalux Mar 2016 #69
Manufactured photo-op marions ghost Mar 2016 #71
Oh man, I just watched it. That really was fake. Marr Mar 2016 #124
She's not as good an actor as her hub marions ghost Mar 2016 #127
Hillary wasn't but I am FreakinDJ Mar 2016 #57
Sexism! Bjornsdotter Mar 2016 #58
They were bitter Chafee supporters Mike__M Mar 2016 #60
No, no, they're Webb voters, darn it all! hrmbaja Mar 2016 #108
Uppity women. n/t lumberjack_jeff Mar 2016 #62
interrupting presidential candidates ibegurpard Mar 2016 #64
It was rude and disruptive. I hope they got tossed out. n/t Lil Missy Mar 2016 #76
It brings attention to both the protester and the candidate. Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #81
they shouted their chant and then began walking our. Mission accomplish. riversedge Mar 2016 #88
The only GOOD hecklers are BLM hecklers heckling Bernie. nt m-lekktor Mar 2016 #77
At least she didn't huff off. bravenak Mar 2016 #85
Protesters are part of politics. Bernie was calm-a trait I want in a President. snowy owl Mar 2016 #99
Fucking Bernie Bros whatchamacallit Mar 2016 #103
Right-wingers interrupted her? Why would that amuse anyone? DanTex Mar 2016 #104
I thought they were communists?? TheSarcastinator Mar 2016 #109
Ooh, another Godwin! DanTex Mar 2016 #112
My first thought was that these were environmental activists riderinthestorm Mar 2016 #110
And this is why Hillary is losing the under 30-year-old vote by 71%. jillan Mar 2016 #131

democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
10. How did Bernie react to that?
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 02:49 PM
Mar 2016

I vaguely remember hearing about that incident but I don't remember how he reacted. I did see a video of him reacting to a Trump supporter shouting at his rally. He just chuckled and said "there's a Trump supporter worried about Mr. Trump's money." And of course, we all know how he reacted to being interrupted by a bird.

 

CalvinballPro

(1,019 posts)
48. +1 Marissa Janae Johnson, one of the BLM activists there that day, has gone on the record to protest
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 03:52 PM
Mar 2016

any assertion that Bernie "gave them the mic" or "allowed them to speak." And I'd trust her more than one of Sanders' keyboard warriors any day.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
59. The video & photographs show Bernie standing silently to the side.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 04:04 PM
Mar 2016

I'd trust that evidence more than a Bernie-hater any day.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
61. Marissa is still lying about it too.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 04:09 PM
Mar 2016

I heard a recent interview where she said Bernie never tried to shake her hand but that's on the video. She also said her friends were physically assaulted by the crowd and one was even bitten.

The woman is clearly a liar, why would anyone believe her?

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
72. Strong need for attention, notoriety, fame.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 04:33 PM
Mar 2016

This is her story, her claim to fame, and she's stickin' to it.

I cannot imagine a group of liberal Seattlites who came to learn about Social Security wanting to assault and bite people.

The way she screamed into the microphone, face contorted, full volume, looked like habitual rage.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
73. I agree, there was also anti-Semitism behind her hatred.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 04:35 PM
Mar 2016

She was a fundie who was affiliated with Louis Farrakhan.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
90. Fundie? Farrakhan? That's nutzy-wutzy extremism, afaic.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 05:19 PM
Mar 2016

How unfortunate that a person that unbalanced lit upon the scene and that some put her on a pedestal.

(Sorry to be slow in replying; I'm typing slower than usual today -- nearly every word is a typo that has to be fixed and I had to reply to someone else first.)

I'm so glad you're out here standing up, as you do so beautifully, for what is right, bmus.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
93. One of the hashtags she used along with #bowdownbernie was #freepalestine
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 05:27 PM
Mar 2016

Not the best spokesperson for blm imo but that's not my call.

That's okay, don't worry about the response time. I'm on fb and watching the weather right now, going to be a bumpy night here.

Glad to see you too my friend, you have more patience than I do.



 

CalvinballPro

(1,019 posts)
66. Of course you would. Of course...
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 04:13 PM
Mar 2016

...a video or picture of Sanders standing off to the side is not evidence of "He gave them the mic" or "He let them speak." It's only evidence of the fact that while they were speaking, he was nearby. You got a picture or video of "Here, you speak" or "I'm going to turn the microphone over to these young women now?" No, you don't, because that didn't happen. Let's see what really happened.

http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/black-lives-matter-protesters-shut-down-bernie-sanders-rally/

At Westlake, Sanders was just starting to address the crowd, thanking Seattle for being “one of the most progressive cities in the United States of America.”

That’s as far as he got before two women walked onstage and grabbed the microphone.
.....
After the few minutes of silence, the protesters said they wanted to confront Sanders for failing to address their concerns when he was similarly interrupted at a town hall for liberal activists in Phoenix last month. Johnson beckoned Sanders to stand closer as she spoke — he refused.


So the microphone was taken, not given, and Sanders elected not to engage the protesters by his own free will. And the "Johnson" cited is Marissa Janae Johnson, who is definitely more credible on what happened than your opinion.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
67. By stepping aside he gave them the mic and let them speak.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 04:16 PM
Mar 2016

By waiting respectfully for them to finish he gave them the mic and let them speak.

By not trying to take it back he gave them the mic and let them speak.

By not having them removed he gave them the mic and let them speak.

Stop being deliberately obtuse, you know what she meant.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
86. A few things you need to understand, CalvinballPro.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 05:05 PM
Mar 2016

1) This was not Sanders' event. This was a Social Security event. The event organizers, Seattle residents, were in control of it. Bernie was merely one of the invited speakers. Got that? He was an invited guest. He deferred to the organizers who had invited him.

2) Bernie had another event lined up for later that day. So he was on a tight schedule.

3) Marissa Janeae Johnson was screaming at full volume, a bundle of out-of-control rage. Her grabbing the mic -- a bullying assault on the entire proceedings -- was between her and the organizers.

From the Seattle Times article you cited:

After a back and forth with the screaming protesters, organizers relented and said the demonstrators could go first.

Bernie did not fight her for the mic; he stepped away and stood to the back with his wife. He was under no obligation to do whatever this screaming woman ordered him to do. Got that? I hope you do. He was polite and well-behaved and let the organizers deal with it.

4) Neither you nor anyone else has the right to criticize Bernie Sanders for his entirely appropriate, respectful behavior that day.

5) Bernie Sanders does not have a racist, sexist bone in his body. He's the real thing when it comes to civil rights for all oppressed people.

You won't find anyone better.


 

CalvinballPro

(1,019 posts)
100. Thank you. Because even your version isn't consistent with "Bernie let them speak", so now we know
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:39 PM
Mar 2016

how much of a bullshit lie that excuse has been this whole time. Random bolding!

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
105. It's totally consistent
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:55 PM
Mar 2016

and your obsession with it is weird and unhealthy. "Excuse?" There was nothing to excuse.

As for my bolding of some words, there is nothing random about it. In a written context it signifies emphasis. If you don't understand that, then perhaps it's time to lay off the Calvinball and finish up high school.

 

CalvinballPro

(1,019 posts)
111. Ad hominem. Classy. Of course you couldn't resist ending with a personal insult.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 07:04 PM
Mar 2016

Demonstrates who the real high schooler is here.

islandmkl

(5,275 posts)
128. you are entitled to your 'version' of what is shown on the video(s)...
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 08:40 PM
Mar 2016

you can even apply conclusions based on what you want to espouse regardless of what the video shows...

you can edit the facts of the event in your mind and ignore any other facts that would prove your premise(s) as either merely flawed or intentionally misrepresenting the actual event in totality...

you have an agenda and you are pursuing it heartily...i'll give you that...

other than that, and in an ad hominem phrase you can understand: you are full of shit...and you know it...

 

Gwhittey

(1,377 posts)
33. And then Media lied about it
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 03:17 PM
Mar 2016

And said he was rude to them. And this was lie #3 that I know of that got African Americans down here in SC to vote against him. At least up north African Americans are starting to get the message that they where lied to.

wendylaroux

(2,925 posts)
55. was she the one that was especially nasty? screaming in his face?
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 03:59 PM
Mar 2016

if that would have been me,I would of knocked her gd ass off that stage.she was a hell hound.

 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
14. I believe that anyone who is so narcissistic as to think that they have the right to disrupt a
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 02:51 PM
Mar 2016

voluntary meeting of a majority of people is wrong, BLM included. This type of individual thinks the world revolves around them. It doesn't.

 

GeorgiaPeanuts

(2,353 posts)
18. Spoken like a true Fascist.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 02:54 PM
Mar 2016

If non-landowners, women, black people, LGBT didn't get uppity and demand they be heard they would not have the rights they exercise to this day.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
44. excellent
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 03:38 PM
Mar 2016

Those uppity young women!!!

Just like the young woman who held up a sign in the middle of the elite fundraising party in South Carolina. She was manhandled by security right out of the joint, after being dissed by Hillary.

Or the young woman who was told to "go out and run for something yourself" by Hillary.

She has a huge problem with young women.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
52. She used that same line in Minnesota
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 03:58 PM
Mar 2016

At a coffee shop Governor Dayton was there and he looked very uncomfortable with the exchange.

Retrograde

(10,153 posts)
84. Why shouildn't a young woman go out and run for something?
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 04:56 PM
Mar 2016

school board, town council, local offices - there are hundreds of opportunities to make a real difference (like a county election official, for example) where a young person can make a difference, even without the influx of cash and support needed for a state or country-wide office. Real change begins with a firm foundation at lower levels - as the tea party knows.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
53. That is actually a totalitarian mindset
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 03:58 PM
Mar 2016

We live in America. We have the right and duty to protest. In fact, many of us did when Bush was rushing us into an illegal war.

Remaining silent is what they do in Saudi Arabia.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
97. No one is taking away anyone's rights
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:15 PM
Mar 2016

Hillary Clinton has the right to speak. People who do not agree with her, and want to make a statement, have the right to speak out as well.

That's America. It's part of the First Amendment. You have the same rights.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
101. Actually, it is a right
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:42 PM
Mar 2016

Being yanked out of a speaking venue, does not mean that you don't have the right to speak out.

People who protest Trump have the right to speak out too. Trump incites his rabid supporters to beat those protesters. Those protesters are thrown out. Doesn't mean that they don't have the right to speak out and speak their minds.

You have the right to attend a rally and protest as well.

It's called the First Amendment.

 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
121. Well, then let's see if they file a lawsuit. Of course they won't. They had no right and were yanked
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 07:38 PM
Mar 2016

ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
6. sure it does. It sends a strong message.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 02:47 PM
Mar 2016

In this case, one that needs to be sent.

What are we? the soviet union? Or do we all have voices that can educate those who need it most, like Hillary?

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
68. So glad they do. One of the happiest developments this country has seen.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 04:22 PM
Mar 2016

A whole generation awake and aware. I have no idea how it happened -- unless it has something to do with social media.

Well, my generation was pretty good too, but we did not fully understand what we were up against.

CorporatistNation

(2,546 posts)
133. I Appreciate Those Young Women... STANDING STRONG TO STOP FASCISM!
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 07:21 AM
Apr 2016

WE DO LOSE IF "SHE" WINS! That assertion can never be in dispute! #ONE You cannot trust her as far as you can throw her! She will fib about what she had for breakfast! Hillary according to her... "Tries not to lie..." HILLARYOUS!

KingFlorez

(12,689 posts)
3. Heckling doesn't do much
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 02:45 PM
Mar 2016

This is the religion of Bernie Sanders: Try to shout down the opposition into submission.

Response to KingFlorez (Reply #3)

 

GeorgiaPeanuts

(2,353 posts)
11. Amen
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 02:50 PM
Mar 2016

If so great Camp Weathervane is then it wouldn't need to ban more people than it has as members, the same phenomena is on reddit, except the Sanders reddit dwarfs the Clinton Reddit.

 

synergie

(1,901 posts)
17. The bans from that groups arre based on the abuse from people who vioalted the rules of that
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 02:54 PM
Mar 2016

group or attacked its members, which seems to have been coveted badge of honor for the BS crowd who were not happy silencing any and all opposition and taking over the entire site.

The Sanders group was also pretty quick with the ban, I got one for pointing out that the article they were quoting stated the opposite of what they claimed, apparently facts were ban worthy.

If Camp BS was so great, then why ban new members who point out simple errors by pointing out the actual content of the articles posted?

Response to GeorgiaPeanuts (Reply #11)

DeadLetterOffice

(1,352 posts)
32. Jury results
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 03:16 PM
Mar 2016
Amen
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1617651

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Camp Weathervane is rude and troll worthy. This is not civil to the community.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Thu Mar 31, 2016, 03:16 PM, and the Jury voted 1-6 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
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Explanation: Skinner asked us to "tone down the most divisive and over-the-top rhetoric about our primary candidates." HIDE
 

GeorgiaPeanuts

(2,353 posts)
34. Thanks..
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 03:19 PM
Mar 2016

I'm still blown away that the other persons comment was hided because I didn't think he said anything wrong. He posted cold hard facts about the Clinton group.

KingFlorez

(12,689 posts)
16. Those numbers reflect disruptive people who only want to instigate
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 02:52 PM
Mar 2016

And from what I've heard, the Sanders group has banned plenty of people, some of which who haven't even posted there.

As for the cult comment, you said cult, not me. But if the shoe fits...

Buns_of_Fire

(17,194 posts)
39. Pre-emptive banning? Love it.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 03:28 PM
Mar 2016

I told another DUer a while back that I don't darken the doorsteps of either group. I respect the safe havens of both sides.

But it's also a matter of cost-effectiveness. I can hang around the Hillary Group and tick off a thousand people. I can hang around the Bernie Group and tick off a thousand people.

Or I can hang around here and tick off EVERYBODY!

Gotta think big.

 

synergie

(1,901 posts)
23. Facts, reality, scientists, mayors, mothers, fathers, children, doctors etc.?
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 02:57 PM
Mar 2016

Who does Bernie listen to, other than himself that is? And who do his supporters listen to other than their own canned pre-prepared slogans shouted out with little attempt at coherence or honesty or sense?

How many times are these paid disruption from Bernie's camp going to interrupt the woman beating him, and will anyone give them slogans that make any sense, or teach them that if they wish to ask questions, they should not shout over any attempts to answer them?

It failed the SC, and this seems to be yet another fail.

daleanime

(17,796 posts)
27. Which is how she decided that our foreign policy....
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 03:04 PM
Mar 2016

needs to be more "muscular"?

Which is why she values corporate profits over the lives of her 'fellow' americans?

The explains how she can give answers like "you find out once I'm in office".

And nice projection on the idea that the young lady must have been paid, I can understand why you would think so. Make sure to have a lovely day.

 

synergie

(1,901 posts)
30. Gee, if only those right wing fantasies of yours were not completely made up and
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 03:10 PM
Mar 2016

utterly silly. Why is the word fellow in scare quotes?

Eh, it's better than answers like, "the unicorns I promise shall appear because of the REVOLUTION" and the "millions of people milling outside of the windows of the White House who will magically make the GOP do my bidding despite my failure to lift a finger to help down ballot Dems win elections!"

Your projection wasn't nice at all, kinda sad really. They were quite obviously paid and when their hypocrisy was addressed, it was pretty clear that she had no knowledge or desire to wonder why it was fine when Bernie did things. The fact that they were staged stunts and the pre-planned nature (complete with painted on hash tag and bots ready to push it), made that rather evident.

You have a lovely day too, and remember that projection isn't such a great defense mechanism, especially when wielded so poorly. Acceptance of reality and the notions that not everything is split into good and evil is a healthy way to go about life.

Bernie is no saint, Hillary no devil and political stunts are are what they are, and it doesn't take much to figure out who's behind these, or why.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
49. Depends on what she wants. If it's votes, she'll listen to voters
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 03:53 PM
Mar 2016

or copy Bernie's positions.

She's pragmatic in achieving her goals. Whatever it takes.

riversedge

(70,299 posts)
92. Oh, I see the Sanders camp has copied a hashtag #Heswithus. Imitation is the best
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 05:23 PM
Mar 2016

form of approval. Glad to see you liked the idea and adopted it for your own.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
94. You just noticed that NOW? We've had it for a couple of months.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 05:53 PM
Mar 2016

Someone more creative than me thought it up. The Bernie one is more meaningful, don't you think?

I rather liked this one, too: #sheswithher

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
115. Weren't they Greenpeace Supporters that she Attacked?
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 07:23 PM
Mar 2016

I just watched the video of that on another thread and the video of her Blaming Bernie Supporters on Bloomberg TV and she was awful.

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I already posted my reaction on another thread:

Bloomberg TV (of all Places) Showed her Freaking Out..

She sounded deranged. I don't know if she had the SS "Escort" the people out or not, because I just saw it. BUT....She sounded like Donald Trump Yelling "Get 'Em Outta Here....Get 'Em Out!

Was anyone injured? As I said I've been out today and only just saw this.

Anyway...she sounded "Unhinged..Attacking Bernie. Is she working with Trump, or something or just copying him?

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
122. Pretty sure it's two different groups on two different occasions --
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 07:41 PM
Mar 2016

One was young women chanting at one of her events and the other was one or more Greenpeace supporters asking her questions as she was glad-handing through a crowd.

Is there video of the women chanting & her response? I'd like to see it.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
123. I'll see if I can find it on Bloomberg Videos to post.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 07:55 PM
Mar 2016

I just saw the first one and second one here on DU and Reddit.

Will get back if I find.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
130. Thanks, xloadiex. Oh, how ugly and despicable!
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 10:03 PM
Mar 2016

She jumps right in on "Bernie people" -- not knowing who the chanters are -- then informs them they're leaving and gives that seriously ugly laugh like the "he died" laugh she's so famous for. And then she starts this tacky, abrasive bragging about how she has more votes than Bernie. All in that awful voice.

And she ends talking about how Bernie can't match her "experience, plans, and vision?" If her husband hadn't just been president she wouldn't have been able to carpet bag her way into a NY Senate seat, and if Obama hadn't had to deal with an implacable enemy that he had to keep close, she wouldn't have gotten SOS -- where she wrecked Libya and lined her coffers with quid pro quo money from weapons manufacturers. Experience, my ass.

Who in their right mind would vote for that?

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
19. She had 3 fundraising/1 organizing event today.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 02:55 PM
Mar 2016

So since it's unlikely young women had $2700 to blow for a fundraiser, was the interruption at the "organizing" event?. Organizing is the term HRC uses; cause then it can be embarrassingly small - not like a "rally" where you'd expect thousands.

If the protesters were close enough for her to hear, there will be hell to pay by the organizers! When she was in Madison, WI for an "organizing event" earlier this week, admission was by invitation only, and she had an entire block around the venue closed to not just vehicles, but even to pedestrians. Yup! Public streets and sidewalks in the heart of the state university, and on the first day of classes following spring break.

Bow when she enters, and don't make eye contact!


Thu, Mar 31, 2016, 1:00pm – 3:00pm
Westchester Organizing Event with Hillary Clinton
http://hillaryspeeches.com/scheduled-events/

 

synergie

(1,901 posts)
31. Um, seriously? You actually think that security perimeters are set by the candidate and
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 03:16 PM
Mar 2016

not by the secret service? I mean, gosh, it's not like there are a bunch of violent morons who are busy frothing at the mouth, sending death threats, and taking out obituaries or anything, right?

The lengths you guys go to, in order to ignore common sense and dismiss reality just to swipe nastily at her would be amusing if it wasn't so sad.

Please read up on how his holiness Bernie also makes his followers wait, before he enters his venues full of chanting devotees, and shoves aside his wife so that he may bask in the adulation by himself. (And yes, I am mocking you by poking fun at how Bernie's conduct is never ever mentioned while you're pretending that secret service realities are some sort of royal decree from the woman you love so very much to hate.)

21st Century Poet

(254 posts)
26. This is nothing to cheer about.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 03:03 PM
Mar 2016

I leapt to Sanders's defence when his rally was interrupted by Black Lives Matter.

I leapt to Trump's defence when his rally was interrupted by Moveon.org.

Now I leap to Clinton's defence when she is interrupted by Bernie supporters.

Let people express their political beliefs freely and without interruption. Let them gather to express their support for their chosen presidential candidate. It is their right. If you want to protest, do so, but do not interrupt or impinge others from exercising their political and democratic rights. Some parts of the left seem to have a problem understanding these basic concepts. This makes the left look bad. And it looks doubly bad when those on the left try to eat their own side alive. The way both Clinton and Sanders have been called racist and sexist at different times of the campaign is beyond ridiculous. Republicans delight in seeing Democrats throw these ridiculous accusations at each other because it feeds into the meme that Democrats are only about identity politics. Don't please the Republicans.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
38. And just who are you
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 03:26 PM
Mar 2016

to make that decision for anyone else? I swear the behavior around here gets more cult like every single day. It's nauseating.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
83. Then you're dishonest
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 04:52 PM
Mar 2016

At least I'm willing to admit both sides suck sometimes. But then again, I've been called too stupid to know what's good for me by the Bernie supporters so what do I know.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
132. I think Hillary will win NY
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 05:08 AM
Apr 2016

handily. By double digits. To be honest, I don't know one person here voting for Bernie.

 

Gwhittey

(1,377 posts)
35. It was a fund raiser. Totaly different in my eyes/
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 03:20 PM
Mar 2016

If it was one rare Clinton tea parties I would say OK you are right. But I think BLM actually has a right to what they did because the issues is some serious shit with cops killing blacks because they can. And they need to wake people up to the fact.

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
36. They have a right to protest, but Clinton has the right to have them, cordially, escorted out
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 03:24 PM
Mar 2016

As long as both sides respect that, then we're all good. Neither Clinton's nor Sanders' rallies should be anything like the repugnant bullshit we see at Trump rallies.

A reminder on how we do things over here;


Jackie Wilson Said

(4,176 posts)
80. That is how it is supposed to work. If the protester isnt arrested or removed, and are entirely
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 04:46 PM
Mar 2016

ignored, then they are not accomplishing what they came to accomplish.

The more negatively the speaker reacts the more they help the protesters cause.

riversedge

(70,299 posts)
114. Thanks. loved the video. Today--the women chanted--then walked out on their own
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 07:21 PM
Mar 2016

according to 3 articles I have read. Hillary said very little. She let her supporters chant a bit then she quieted them down and went on.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
116. This was a Greenpeace Activist that she called Bernie People..
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 07:25 PM
Mar 2016

Then she poked her finger in the face in the audience with the Protestor screaming at her!

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
37. The disturbing of campaign events
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 03:25 PM
Mar 2016

turned against the protesters when it was trump at the other end and the same thing will happen here. Hope they like the result.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
40. I'm not a fan of this tactic.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 03:29 PM
Mar 2016

If they want to protest quietly or outside that's fine but trying to drown out Hillary isn't cool.

We wouldn't like it if they did it to Bernie.

peacebird

(14,195 posts)
102. That's what I thought also, Hillary had her response preplanned. A false flag 'attack' to make her
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:46 PM
Mar 2016

look somehow sympathetic? Failed anyhow.

 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
79. I can't handle screamers. Of any kind.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 04:45 PM
Mar 2016

I think the BLM protesters who got in Bernie's face just made themselves look stupid.

Quietly hold up a sign? OK


Speak quietly without drowning out others? OK

Screaming and yelling? Not OK.

Bernie showed remarkable restraint. The BLM protesters just looked like asses.


beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
82. I agree, I totally support blm's right to protest but that was counterproductive.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 04:48 PM
Mar 2016

As it is when any group acts out like that, getting physical and screaming always causes a backlash.

Silent protest is more powerful imo, especially with social media. Remember the young Muslim woman at Trump's rally?

That took courage.

Nightjock

(1,408 posts)
50. I don't care if they were Bernie supporters or not
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 03:54 PM
Mar 2016

it was wrong. Hillary is not spewing hate like Trump.
I am not riding the fence. I will be devastated if she wins and after the "Bernie is mean to his wife" incident I may vote down ticket and leave POTUS unchecked. But it is WRONG to interrupt her talking to her supporters.

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
69. When I saw the video I thought the same thing.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 04:26 PM
Mar 2016

I love how she says "Bernie people" and the news outlets run with that. Easy for her.

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
71. Manufactured photo-op
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 04:30 PM
Mar 2016

and then she launches into her instant snarling put-downs.

Yuk. But people will be taken in by it.

Mike__M

(1,052 posts)
60. They were bitter Chafee supporters
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 04:06 PM
Mar 2016

That's my rumor, and I'm sticking to it.

Unless there's proof otherwise, anyway.

Jackie Wilson Said

(4,176 posts)
81. It brings attention to both the protester and the candidate.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 04:48 PM
Mar 2016

Not rude, democracy.

Hillary got angry but did it in a way that shows her strength.

Win win here, sort of.

snowy owl

(2,145 posts)
99. Protesters are part of politics. Bernie was calm-a trait I want in a President.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:31 PM
Mar 2016

Don't know what Hillary did. How did she handle it? I hope calmly. I want a calm President in the face of adversity.

TheSarcastinator

(854 posts)
109. I thought they were communists??
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 07:03 PM
Mar 2016

Keep your propaganda lines consistent or you'll never reach your dream of becoming DU's Goebbels!

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
110. My first thought was that these were environmental activists
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 07:04 PM
Mar 2016

because of the chant.

Why is it assumed they're from the Sanders campaign?

jillan

(39,451 posts)
131. And this is why Hillary is losing the under 30-year-old vote by 71%.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 10:16 PM
Mar 2016

She could've just as easily invited them to stay and hear what she had to say but instead she decided to yell at them.

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