2016 Postmortem

Gregorian

(23,867 posts) Thu Mar 31, 2016, 08:48 PM Mar 2016

Hillary Clinton OUTRAGED When Asked About Contributions From Fossil Fuel Industry

This isn't tone you want from a candidate.

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Hillary Clinton OUTRAGED When Asked About Contributions From Fossil Fuel Industry (Original Post) Gregorian Mar 2016 OP

The Clintons know that when you lie, get angry. It throws people off guard, makes them think you're reformist2 Mar 2016 #1

Does that really work? Kalidurga Mar 2016 #2

It's classic gas-lighting. Trying to make you think you're crazy or out of line for even asking polly7 Mar 2016 #5

Ah I get it Kalidurga Mar 2016 #6

Ha! Mine did too ... polly7 Mar 2016 #9

Classic! "The Audacity of It All.." She Can't Tell You What Colr Shoes She Has On W/o Lying... CorporatistNation Mar 2016 #12

Bingo! haikugal Mar 2016 #8

You got it Baobab Apr 2016 #49

I'm beyond thinking she's crazy. PonyUp Apr 2016 #58

Yep! jeff47 Mar 2016 #18

wow Kalidurga Mar 2016 #22

She is looking into it. Or something to that effect. Her favorite get out of a jam thereismore Mar 2016 #3

The only person who brought up Sanders was Hillary. Autumn Mar 2016 #4

She needs some tone control. Wilms Mar 2016 #7

Yeah she needs to dial it DOWN.... marions ghost Mar 2016 #37

That's why I found a knob that only goes up to 10! Wilms Mar 2016 #46

I'd get tired of people in my face asking stupid questions in a crowd. Sanders got tired Hoyt Mar 2016 #10

4.5 mil questionseverything Mar 2016 #16

Got any incidents of favoritism for them. I'm fine with her taking money from Hoyt Mar 2016 #24

bridge-squirrel-seafront property questionseverything Mar 2016 #47

Erm, you know corporations don't just give money away for fun right? Kentonio Apr 2016 #53

Then, you ought to be able to come up with tons of examples where they got something. Hoyt Apr 2016 #56

She isn't President yet. If she wins there will be plenty of quid pro quo I'm sure. Kentonio Apr 2016 #57

We did, along with all of her other donations/fees/bribe money Hydra Mar 2016 #25

What fossil fuel policies of hers do you disagree? Hoyt Mar 2016 #28

I'm not sure. Since she won't talk about all of them Hydra Mar 2016 #32

LMAO. So, she's done nothing you disagree with. Hoyt Mar 2016 #33

Oops Hydra Mar 2016 #35

She spent most of her time as Secretary of State promoting Fracking all around the world. w4rma Mar 2016 #38

Here's a statement Hoyt Mar 2016 #40

Yeah ......... watch this. It contains your cherry-picked quote. polly7 Mar 2016 #42

Great video marions ghost Mar 2016 #45

You're welcome, marions ghost! nt. polly7 Apr 2016 #59

Check out his answer on Fracking. artislife Mar 2016 #39

If you are trying to get off coal and oil, answers aren't that simple. Hence Hoyt Mar 2016 #43

She just doesn't quite seem strongly committed Voice for Peace Apr 2016 #51

I know, she needs to yell at the sky . . . . . . . Hoyt Apr 2016 #55

I noticed it's gotten really quiet in here. Anyone else remember Fingergate? beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #11

And a valid question to a supposed progressive candidate NWCorona Mar 2016 #14

Well she couldn't have her goons throw the girl out so she lost it. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #17

I felt exactly the same way NWCorona Mar 2016 #19

Yeah she's seeing Bernie everywhere. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #31

LOL snagglepuss Mar 2016 #48

Oh yeah NWCorona Mar 2016 #15

Touchy, touchy. azmom Mar 2016 #13

I wouldn't trust someone with that temper with the nuclear codes. Arugula Latte Mar 2016 #20

HRC: "Sick of the Sanders Campaign Lying About Me Because That's MY Job!" Vote2016 Mar 2016 #21

lol Kalidurga Mar 2016 #30

It is all just slipping away. nt JEB Mar 2016 #23

Meh ... another hit piece fail n/t cosmicone Mar 2016 #26

She's fracking. TheCowsCameHome Mar 2016 #27

Hillary is a fracking missionary. Broward Mar 2016 #29

It is funny to compare two situations today sadoldgirl Mar 2016 #34

As in the time Sanders used in his interview with Maddow? Thinkingabout Mar 2016 #36

Hillary Clinton’s Biggest Campaign Bundlers Are Fossil Fuel Lobbyists polly7 Mar 2016 #41

Notice the finger pointing TheFarS1de Mar 2016 #44

She has no business running for President, much less being President. She's an embarrassment. ThePhilosopher04 Apr 2016 #50

She is the epitome of what turns people off from being politically engaged FlatBaroque Apr 2016 #54

She's outraged that she still has a primary opponent jfern Apr 2016 #52

reformist2

(9,841 posts)

1. The Clintons know that when you lie, get angry. It throws people off guard, makes them think you're

Reply to Gregorian (Original post)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 08:50 PM

Mar 2016

telling the truth. But you're not...

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)

2. Does that really work?

Reply to reformist2 (Reply #1)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 08:53 PM

Mar 2016

I tend to think anger is covering something else up. But, I am weird and often do things differently and I think differently than a lot of people.

polly7

(20,582 posts)

5. It's classic gas-lighting. Trying to make you think you're crazy or out of line for even asking

Reply to Kalidurga (Reply #2)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 08:56 PM

Mar 2016

or wondering about something, even when you are right about it.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)

6. Ah I get it

Reply to polly7 (Reply #5)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 08:59 PM

Mar 2016

I guess my mom did me a favor of sorts. She yelled so often I developed a sort of immunity to it. And sometimes I actually push people to the point of yelling just for kicks, not as often as I did when I was young. It was a thing with me for a time though. Watching people become unhinged. That being said I think the world would be a better place without people losing their shit when asked a question.

polly7

(20,582 posts)

9. Ha! Mine did too ...

Reply to Kalidurga (Reply #6)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 09:02 PM

Mar 2016

but I learned all about the gas-lighting from my ex, who was very very good at it. I didn't understand it though until I talked to someone for a while. Now, I can look back and replay some of those 'conversations' in which he definitely had been caught in a lie and did this same thing to me (and more) and see it easily when it's being used by others.

CorporatistNation

(2,546 posts)

12. Classic! "The Audacity of It All.." She Can't Tell You What Colr Shoes She Has On W/o Lying...

Reply to polly7 (Reply #9)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 09:06 PM

Mar 2016

about it... GREAT VIDEO! NOTHING BETTER THAN HILLARY VALIDATING HERSELF FOR US!

haikugal

(6,476 posts)

8. Bingo!

Reply to polly7 (Reply #5)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 09:00 PM

Mar 2016

Baobab

(4,667 posts)

49. You got it

Reply to polly7 (Reply #5)

Fri Apr 1, 2016, 01:23 AM

Apr 2016

Gaslighting - phrase is taken from a great film with the same name - with the beautiful and talented Ingrid Bergman.

>It's classic gas-lighting. Trying to make you think you're crazy or out of line for even asking or wondering about something, even when you are right about it.

PonyUp

(1,680 posts)

58. I'm beyond thinking she's crazy.

Reply to polly7 (Reply #5)

Fri Apr 1, 2016, 07:17 AM

Apr 2016

jeff47

(26,549 posts)

18. Yep!

Reply to Kalidurga (Reply #2)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 09:17 PM

Mar 2016

It can cause the person with the facts to doubt themselves, and back off. At least in the immediate situation.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)

22. wow

Reply to jeff47 (Reply #18)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 09:21 PM

Mar 2016

Now I have to think of something to lie about then get mad when I am called on the bullshit. It might take a long long time. I don't know if I can pull off the lying thing with a straight face though.

thereismore

(13,326 posts)

3. She is looking into it. Or something to that effect. Her favorite get out of a jam

Reply to Gregorian (Original post)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 08:53 PM

Mar 2016

phrase.

Autumn

(45,120 posts)

4. The only person who brought up Sanders was Hillary.

Reply to Gregorian (Original post)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 08:56 PM

Mar 2016

To go off like that when asked about her commitment to climate change that she made shows she is not a worthy leader.

Wilms

(26,795 posts)

7. She needs some tone control.

Reply to Gregorian (Original post)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 09:00 PM

Mar 2016

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)

37. Yeah she needs to dial it DOWN....

Reply to Wilms (Reply #7)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 10:20 PM

Mar 2016

Wilms

(26,795 posts)

46. That's why I found a knob that only goes up to 10!

Reply to marions ghost (Reply #37)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 10:55 PM

Mar 2016

She's like 11, and then some.

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)

10. I'd get tired of people in my face asking stupid questions in a crowd. Sanders got tired

Reply to Gregorian (Original post)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 09:03 PM

Mar 2016

of BS about his wife in Arizona. It happens. Check out Clinton's fossil fuel record and donations.

questionseverything

(9,664 posts)

16. 4.5 mil

Reply to Hoyt (Reply #10)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 09:10 PM

Mar 2016

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511619761

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)

24. Got any incidents of favoritism for them. I'm fine with her taking money from

Reply to questionseverything (Reply #16)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 09:26 PM

Mar 2016

them to beat GOPers, as long as they don't get favoritism like the pipeline, etc.

questionseverything

(9,664 posts)

47. bridge-squirrel-seafront property

Reply to Hoyt (Reply #24)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 11:27 PM

Mar 2016

Kentonio

(4,377 posts)

53. Erm, you know corporations don't just give money away for fun right?

Reply to Hoyt (Reply #24)

Fri Apr 1, 2016, 04:31 AM

Apr 2016

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)

56. Then, you ought to be able to come up with tons of examples where they got something.

Reply to Kentonio (Reply #53)

Fri Apr 1, 2016, 06:02 AM

Apr 2016

Kentonio

(4,377 posts)

57. She isn't President yet. If she wins there will be plenty of quid pro quo I'm sure.

Reply to Hoyt (Reply #56)

Fri Apr 1, 2016, 06:22 AM

Apr 2016

Hydra

(14,459 posts)

25. We did, along with all of her other donations/fees/bribe money

Reply to Hoyt (Reply #10)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 09:27 PM

Mar 2016

She baldfaced lied when someone called her on something she didn't want to talk about. I feel sorry for you guys, you work so hard to build up her image here, and then she goes and has a 15 second uncensored moment on camera and it all falls flat.

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)

28. What fossil fuel policies of hers do you disagree?

Reply to Hydra (Reply #25)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 09:30 PM

Mar 2016

Hydra

(14,459 posts)

32. I'm not sure. Since she won't talk about all of them

Reply to Hoyt (Reply #28)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 09:40 PM

Mar 2016

I can't be sure there's nothing I agree with her on. Stranger things have happened!

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)

33. LMAO. So, she's done nothing you disagree with.

Reply to Hydra (Reply #32)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 09:42 PM

Mar 2016

Hydra

(14,459 posts)

35. Oops

Reply to Hoyt (Reply #33)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 09:58 PM

Mar 2016

I shouldn't post when headachy.

w4rma

(31,700 posts)

38. She spent most of her time as Secretary of State promoting Fracking all around the world.

Reply to Hoyt (Reply #28)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 10:25 PM

Mar 2016

The rest of her time was, apparently, spent convincing Obama to overthrow Libya.

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)

40. Here's a statement

Reply to w4rma (Reply #38)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 10:30 PM

Mar 2016

"By the time we get through all of my conditions, I do not think there will be many places in America where fracking will continue to take place,” Hillary Clinton, March 6, 2016

polly7

(20,582 posts)

42. Yeah ......... watch this. It contains your cherry-picked quote.

Reply to Hoyt (Reply #40)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 10:32 PM

Mar 2016

https://vimeo.com/157982054

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1610499

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)

45. Great video

Reply to polly7 (Reply #42)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 10:46 PM

Mar 2016

thank you! Good visuals...

If anyone doesn't know much about fracking, check it out.

polly7

(20,582 posts)

59. You're welcome, marions ghost! nt.

Reply to marions ghost (Reply #45)

Fri Apr 1, 2016, 10:52 AM

Apr 2016

artislife

(9,497 posts)

39. Check out his answer on Fracking.

Reply to Hoyt (Reply #10)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 10:29 PM

Mar 2016

NO.

hers: paragraphs...

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)

43. If you are trying to get off coal and oil, answers aren't that simple. Hence

Reply to artislife (Reply #39)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 10:33 PM

Mar 2016

"By the time we get through all of my conditions, I do not think there will be many places in America where fracking will continue to take place,” Hillary Clinton, March 6, 2016

Voice for Peace

(13,141 posts)

51. She just doesn't quite seem strongly committed

Reply to Hoyt (Reply #43)

Fri Apr 1, 2016, 04:25 AM

Apr 2016

clear definite or certain about it. Lotta wigglyroom.

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)

55. I know, she needs to yell at the sky . . . . . . .

Reply to Voice for Peace (Reply #51)

Fri Apr 1, 2016, 05:20 AM

Apr 2016

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)

11. I noticed it's gotten really quiet in here. Anyone else remember Fingergate?

Reply to Gregorian (Original post)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 09:04 PM

Mar 2016

People were poutraged for weeks! Bernie was all but accused of physically assaulting Hillary and he never got anywhere near her.

All this girl was ask a question.

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)

14. And a valid question to a supposed progressive candidate

Reply to beam me up scottie (Reply #11)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 09:08 PM

Mar 2016

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)

17. Well she couldn't have her goons throw the girl out so she lost it.

Reply to NWCorona (Reply #14)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 09:12 PM

Mar 2016

Before I watched the video I thought people were exaggerating, I mean how bad could it be?

That was really nasty.

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)

19. I felt exactly the same way

Reply to beam me up scottie (Reply #17)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 09:17 PM

Mar 2016

I was expecting Hillary's classic dismissiveness and it was for a second and then Hillary let loose!

Seemed like something pent up to me.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)

31. Yeah she's seeing Bernie everywhere.

Reply to NWCorona (Reply #19)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 09:37 PM

Mar 2016

Limo won't start: Bernie's fault

Too much sugar in her soy latte: barista's a Bernista

Bad weather and her jet can't take off: Bernie caused it

Can't connect with millennials and ends up screaming at one: Bernie!

snagglepuss

(12,704 posts)

48. LOL

Reply to beam me up scottie (Reply #31)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 11:39 PM

Mar 2016

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)

15. Oh yeah

Reply to beam me up scottie (Reply #11)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 09:10 PM

Mar 2016

Very quiet!

azmom

(5,208 posts)

13. Touchy, touchy.

Reply to Gregorian (Original post)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 09:08 PM

Mar 2016

Hill is losing it. #i'msosick of her.

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)

20. I wouldn't trust someone with that temper with the nuclear codes.

Reply to Gregorian (Original post)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 09:19 PM

Mar 2016

Vote2016

(1,198 posts)

21. HRC: "Sick of the Sanders Campaign Lying About Me Because That's MY Job!"

Reply to Gregorian (Original post)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 09:20 PM

Mar 2016

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)

30. lol

Reply to Vote2016 (Reply #21)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 09:35 PM

Mar 2016

JEB

(4,748 posts)

23. It is all just slipping away. nt

Reply to Gregorian (Original post)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 09:26 PM

Mar 2016

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)

26. Meh ... another hit piece fail n/t

Reply to Gregorian (Original post)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 09:28 PM

Mar 2016

TheCowsCameHome

(40,169 posts)

27. She's fracking.

Reply to Gregorian (Original post)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 09:29 PM

Mar 2016

Broward

(1,976 posts)

29. Hillary is a fracking missionary.

Reply to Gregorian (Original post)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 09:31 PM

Mar 2016

sadoldgirl

(3,431 posts)

34. It is funny to compare two situations today

Reply to Gregorian (Original post)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 09:47 PM

Mar 2016

on this forum.

1) Head of WOW comes out claiming that HRC is
attacked by sexism, iow, she is a victim again.

2) HRC is losing it by blaming the SBS campaign
for a simple question about fossil fuel donors.

Interesting how a lot of HRC supporters defended
both of these "events", but I wished that they would make
up their minds.

Is she a victim or a tough strong woman?

You cannot have it both ways.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)

36. As in the time Sanders used in his interview with Maddow?

Reply to Gregorian (Original post)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 10:12 PM

Mar 2016

Why was he so angry? Turning red in the face. It also, Sanders has also received donations from employees of this industry.

polly7

(20,582 posts)

41. Hillary Clinton’s Biggest Campaign Bundlers Are Fossil Fuel Lobbyists

Reply to Gregorian (Original post)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 10:31 PM

Mar 2016

Clinton’s top campaign financiers are linked to Big Oil, natural gas and the Keystone pipeline.

07/17/2015 09:22 am ET | Updated Jul 17, 2015

http://linkis.com/huffingtonpost.com/FicnN