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geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 04:27 PM Apr 2016

political rorschach test

Below is an excerpt describing a large group of voters in today's United States. Please pick which reaction most closely matches your own immediate reaction to reading it.

has become an insurgent outlier -- ideologically extreme; contemptuous of the inherited social and economic policy regime; scornful of compromise; unpersuaded by conventional understanding of facts, evidence and science; and dismissive of the legitimacy of its political opposition.


Again, which sounds closest to your reaction?
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sounds like a reasonable critique of extremists who are not interested in responsible governance
1 (100%)
smug, third way establishment bashing of people who actually have principles
0 (0%)
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political rorschach test (Original Post) geek tragedy Apr 2016 OP
my answer: geek tragedy Apr 2016 #1
Is this one of those threads where I need a decoder ring to understand it... nt GeorgiaPeanuts Apr 2016 #2
Sounds like the Repubs. nt jmg257 Apr 2016 #3
that's what I think too nt geek tragedy Apr 2016 #4
Sounds like it describes Hillary Clinton's trade policy Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 #5
Sounds like a Republican perfectly situated to beat a disliked status quo establishment Democrat Attorney in Texas Apr 2016 #6
For those who want to know where this quote comes from: demmiblue Apr 2016 #7
oh boo! nt geek tragedy Apr 2016 #9
I noticed a few votes just disappeared for the second option. Cali_Democrat Apr 2016 #12
Seems like the objective was to frame Sanders as the extreme dysfunctional view. Jefferson23 Apr 2016 #11
why would anyone associate that paragraph with Sanders supporters? nt geek tragedy Apr 2016 #13
Some talk about him here using similar references and your OP had no link to a prompt Jefferson23 Apr 2016 #14
why not vote for option 1 then? nt geek tragedy Apr 2016 #15
I'm not interested in your poll question although I added what I felt was of relevance. Jefferson23 Apr 2016 #16
You've rearranged the excerpt, it was a prompt: Jefferson23 Apr 2016 #8
i copied and pasted the text from the original source as published nt geek tragedy Apr 2016 #10
Not so much a rorschach test, more of a Third way gotcha. That Guy 888 Apr 2016 #17
only Clinton supporters voting for option #1 geek tragedy Apr 2016 #18
Look at the names that didn't want to participate cosmicone Apr 2016 #19
not one Sanders supporter agreeing with it. geek tragedy Apr 2016 #20
How is this not locked from GD:P, since it deals with Republicans and is not Primary relevant? nt TheBlackAdder Apr 2016 #21
some reason hair-brained conspiracy theory posts usually don't get locked? nt geek tragedy Apr 2016 #22
 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
1. my answer:
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 04:41 PM
Apr 2016

I voted for option 1 because that kind of behavior, in my opinion, is very harmful to the working of Democracy and pursuing meaningful change.

demmiblue

(36,903 posts)
7. For those who want to know where this quote comes from:
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 04:51 PM
Apr 2016
Congressional scholars Thomas Mann and Norman Ornstein are no strangers to D.C. politics. The two of them have been in Washington for more than 40 years — and they're renowned for their carefully nonpartisan positions.

But now, they say, Congress is more dysfunctional than it has been since the Civil War, and they aren't hesitating to point a finger at who they think is to blame.

"One of the two major parties, the Republican Party, has become an insurgent outlier — ideologically extreme; contemptuous of the inherited social and economic policy regime; scornful of compromise; unpersuaded by conventional understanding of facts, evidence and science; and dismissive of the legitimacy of its political opposition," they write in their new book, It's Even Worse Than It Looks.

Mann, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution, and Ornstein, a resident scholar at the American Enterprise Institute, join Morning Edition host Steve Inskeep to talk about the book, which comes out this week.



Source: http://www.npr.org/2012/04/30/151522725/even-worse-than-it-looks-extremism-in-congress

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
11. Seems like the objective was to frame Sanders as the extreme dysfunctional view.
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 04:56 PM
Apr 2016

On edit, when they were clearly speaking of Republicans.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
14. Some talk about him here using similar references and your OP had no link to a prompt
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 05:02 PM
Apr 2016

that was clearly about Republicans.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
16. I'm not interested in your poll question although I added what I felt was of relevance.
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 05:10 PM
Apr 2016

Enjoy your inquiry.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
8. You've rearranged the excerpt, it was a prompt:
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 04:54 PM
Apr 2016

Spring 2015

Final exam prompt

In It’s Even Worse than It Looks,
Mann and Ornstein claim to identify two sources of dysfunction in the current Congress. In their words...

The first is the serious mismatch between the political parties, which
have become as vehemently adversarial as parliamentary parties, and a governing system that, unlike a
parliamentary democracy, makes it extremely difficult for majorities to act....

The second is that fact that, ... one of the two major parties, the Republican Party, has become an insurgent outlier
—ideologically extreme; contemptuous of the inherited social and economic policy regime; scornful of compromise;
unpersuaded by conventional understanding of facts, evidence, and science; and dismissive of the
legitimacy of its political opposition.

Throughout this semester, you have been following the legislative process in Congress, including
your contributions to the weekly roundtables. Write an essay in which you address the following
questions/points:

1.What evidence can you provide from the opening days of the 114th Congress
to the present that is consistent with Mann and Ornstein’s argument about the two sources of
dysfunction in Congress?

2.What evidence can you provide that is contrary to the argument made by Mann and
Ornstein?

3.Pick one of the reform proposals that Mann and Ornstein propose in the chapter about
reforming political institutions. Based on what you have observed in the 114th Congress,
how effective would that proposal be in overcoming legislative dysfunction in the current
Congress?

http://web.mit.edu/17.251/www/prompt_for_final2015.pdf

 

That Guy 888

(1,214 posts)
17. Not so much a rorschach test, more of a Third way gotcha.
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 05:24 PM
Apr 2016

Probably designed to make any who questioned the DLC really think about the way they've treated the poor. hard-working, conservadems who really know how to get things done.

Google found the quote from "Extremism in Congress: 'Even Worse Than It Looks'? an NPR story from 2012 about the book It's Even Worse Than It Looks - How the American Constitutional System Collided With the New Politics of Extremism by Thomas E. Mann and Norman J Omstein.

full excerpt from NPR :

"One of the two major parties, the Republican Party, has become an insurgent outlier — ideologically extreme; contemptuous of the inherited social and economic policy regime; scornful of compromise; unpersuaded by conventional understanding of facts, evidence and science; and dismissive of the legitimacy of its political opposition," they write in their new book, It's Even Worse Than It Looks.


See you racist, sexist, privileged, BernieBros who want free stuff and unicorns are just like republicans.
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