And even worse: Clinton has only time to brock around the clock?

His Smear gun.

This board screams "Vote Fraud" and they are stealing the election.
If Sanders picks up extra delegates it is Clinton's incompetence.

The Sanders campaign is never about consistency.

Who would have guessed.

After the Clark County Democratic Convention, Bernie Sanders has flipped his close Nevada caucus loss to a 14-point win. The Sanders campaign pulled out a victory in Nevada’s most populous county at this weekend’s convention in Las Vegas.
…
When adding that new delegate count to the delegate counts from Nevada’s 16 other counties recorded on February 20, Sanders won the state with 4,379 delegates to Clinton’s 3,634 delegates, for a total of 8,013 delegates who will go to the Nevada Democratic Party’s state convention in May. This gives Sanders 57.8 percent of the vote, making him the new winner of the Nevada caucus.
http://usuncut.com/politics/bernie-wins-nevada-democratic-caucus/

Official county Twitter page for Clark Cty Nevada

more than incompetence.

The Clinton Machine and its supporters can just not grasp the possibility growing stronger with each passing month since April 2015 that she just might lose.

Denial is a powerful psychological affliction.

They were actively nailbiting until SC. NV was a near miss, and is now a dropped ball.

I think they honestly thought a strong early showing would force Bernie to withdraw, especially if they could successfully play the racial wedge.

Too bad reality has a liberal bias.

The wedge isn't working. We're seeing the last gasps of it here, insofar as a puny website can reflect them.

State Dept. and can't manage this?

claim to fame will be disputing its failure and loss well beyond the pale.

I love reading the stories from folks on the scene (much appreciated, everyone!) but I'm hoping for it to hit the wires with some of the questions answered.

Arrested? Do tell!

So delicious! Want some?

ironically I did get popcorn today for real. The conure loves the stuff.

http://usuncut.com/politics/bernie-wins-nevada-democratic-caucus/

There were threats of arrest for trespassing, but the officer did not arrest anybody after all.

(And am afraid a nuts and bolts article will be needed... damn it... but here especially people should know better)

It sounds like Team Ssnders was really on the ball to catch them.

or the presidency, lawyers should always be on standby

"They had some meetings about you and they’re going to remove you,’ they said they didn’t like her tone"

lol... Hillary's camp is very finicky about the "tone" in peoples' voices.
Seriously it sounds like some sneaky stuff was about to go down and the Bernie camp put up a fight. Good on them!
What I don't understand is that some Hillary people are saying that Bernie's camp cheated too. Where is that coming from??

to be standing up for didn't get represented. It happened to our side in one of the earliest caucuses, so the Bernie team was prepped for it. People who care about election integrity kvetched about it, and (as one of those people) I understand the disappointment. There were also calls of "ha! ha! they are so stoopid - rules are rules, suckas!" from some Hillary supporters (and misspelling on purpose is hard when autocorrect keeps trying to fix it!) so hence some of the less mature taunting back. (insert eye roll here)

yeah, I'd be pretty upset too and those people are at fault for not completing their responsibilities. I still don't see how that was Bernie's doing or how it was cheating by the Sanders side if those people didn't show up though.

People who mock or laugh at this are not mature and should reconsider their choice of parties. Democracy should not be so easy to mess with and the caucus system as well as the SD system is antiquated, imo.

"reputable news source" that is.

If there were such a thing, Clinton would never have gotten as far as she has.

I haven't read that. Do you have a link?

...are countable as losing enthusiasm. And that's a national trend.

No need to get cranked up and re-fight the Nevada caucus.

What each candidate gets may not even change and will have but miniscule effect on the final tally.

And I'm hoping Nevada gets rid of the outmoded, voter-suppressing inefficient caucus system in favor of a primary soon. It took me 3 hours from start to finish to vote in my Las Vegas polling station vs the 15 minutes it would take in a primary.

Last edited Sun Apr 3, 2016, 12:39 PM - Edit history (1)

First, the story has been debunked. Hillary is still expected to get more pledged delegates to the national convention from Nevada.

Second, if Bernie had gotten more delegates then Hillary would still be considered the winner. There have been other races in the past where the winning candidate got fewer delegates. That includes Bill Clinton losing Connecticut to Jerry Brown in 1992 while getting more delegates and Hillary taking third in Iowa while being projected to get one more delegate than John Edwards. Hillary was also recognized as the winner in Nevada in 2008, even though Obama got more delegates.

In this case it would be even sillier to call Sanders the winner, since the victory wouldn't have been based on winning a majority of delegates based on the vote in various caucus districts.

If the story was true, do you really think that Bernie would go out and proudly announce to his supporters that he had won Nevada? Would he update his website to reflect a Nevada victory?

Third, Hillary did not spread misinformation about delegates not needing to show up at the conventions. You have exactly zero proof of that. And you offered no evidence. You simply proclaimed it to be so. If your post was a college paper you would get an F.

Fourth, Hillary has offered Bernie three debate times in NY and he has rejected all of them.

Finally, I'm not sure how you can say her campaign is in disarray given that she is up by over 200 pledged delegates. The big losses were all in caucuses, whereas primaries would have been much closer. You'll have a chance to see that in Wisconsin when, regardless of the result, she won't be getting blown out. And the win in NY that you are counting on hasn't actually happened yet.

could you provide a link to that "debunking"?

its all about the lies.
get on board.

This was merely a county convention. The district convention is still to come and the numbers coming out that will determine the state convention percentages are unknown. I'm not willing to call Nevada a win for Bernie but it is beyond silly to try to attempt to give it to Clinton using totally different circumstances that happened in 2008.

If Bernie had gotten more delegates on the precinct level, he would be even *MORE* of a winner of pledged delegates at this county convention point.

1 was scheduled on the night of the NCAA finals.

1 was scheduled at 7am, when people are waking up or leaving for work

1 was scheduled on April 14, a date which Sanders already has a high profile event planned in a coveted Manhattan locale (source: http://time.com/4280032/democratic-debate-new-york-bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton-negotiations/). One wonders if Hillary knows anyone in the city administration who would be able to tip her off about Sanders' city itinerary. Maybe a mayor?

I'm sure Bernie is willing to debate when they are on equal footing and it's clear that the debate is set up neither to torpedo one of his events nor to be unwatched.

Proves that, once again, things are never simple.

Bernie wasn't being difficult, but that is all you hear, if the details are unknown.

Who the HECK is going to watch a debate at 7 AM (EST??)

England yes, America, doubtful.

For crying out loud.

the winner back in 2008. Every network called her the winner and all the major papers had her picture on the front page the next day.

There were some Obama supporters on the internet who called him the winner. But that wasn't the official call at the time.

I mean the delegate count announced on caucus night, not how things might have shaken out later. (I know that Obama picked up more Nevada delegates later, but that is not my point here.)

I rather distinctly remember it being Obama. Not by much (maybe only by 1), but that was announced on caucus night.

Was the Obama campaign looking for a different outcome at the time?

(I don't mean winning by more delegates here, but rather "winning" a manner that meant fewer delegates.

Which candidate was attempting at the time to "win" Nevada with fewer delegates than the other side?

I suspect that the answer is "nobody".

That answer hasn't changed over the last 8 years.

Hillary was declared the winner on Caucus day. And I think that was the subject we were discussing, at least in the last post. Who was called the winner back in 2008? And the answer is Hillary, at least by all major media outlets.

Yes, I think Obama was looking for a different outcome. I think he wanted the momentum that would have come from being named the winner. His surrogates may have pointed to the delegate issue, but that didn't go very far (fairly or not). Early in the race what the candidates really want is momentum and getting named the winner of Nevada would have helped him get a lot more delegates on Super Tuesday. (Obviously he was able to win anyway. Sometimes momentum is short-lived).

There is precedent for this matter. Bill Clinton lost Connecticut to Jerry Brown in 1992, while getting more delegates. It was a huge story at the time, since Clinton was believed to have the nomination locked up. To some extent it helped precipitate Ross Perot's entry into the race, since it made Clinton look weak.

Hillary Clinton came in third in Iowa in 2008. Her third place showing was an enormous deal at the time. But she was projected to get one more delegate than John Edwards.

I'm not sure how to include Ron Paul in this little walk down memory lane, but I seem to remember that he wound up getting the most delegates out of Iowa (and maybe other places too) but nobody ever stopped calling Santorum the winner.

I know it's difficult for Hillary fans to see her campaign fall apart but that is exactly what is happening.

April 19 and the New York Primary to disabuse you of that notion.

But it will.

should she be the nominee?