2016 Postmortem

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts) Sun Apr 3, 2016, 12:40 AM Apr 2016

Even if Hillary "lost" Nevada today, it doesn't matter. She has most of the super delegates.

If Bernie can turn a loss into a win in Nevada because of the rules, then Hillary can turn a loss into a win via super delegates at the Democratic convention.

Rules are rules, right?

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Even if Hillary "lost" Nevada today, it doesn't matter. She has most of the super delegates. (Original Post) Cali_Democrat Apr 2016 OP

By "rules" you mean lack of enthusiasm by Hillary followers right? revbones Apr 2016 #1

What the hell are you talking about? Logical Apr 2016 #2

This nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #5

Great news! Nt Logical Apr 2016 #10

Rules are rules, yes. bvf Apr 2016 #3

A loss where she finishes with more delegates = #berniemath geek tragedy Apr 2016 #4

You have 11 hidden posts??? Nt Logical Apr 2016 #11

Bye. nt geek tragedy Apr 2016 #13

I am so sad! Nt Logical Apr 2016 #15

Sunlight is quite an effective disinfectant, isn't it? bvf Apr 2016 #18

Spare me. bvf Apr 2016 #12

Bye. nt geek tragedy Apr 2016 #14

Aw. Don't go away mad! bvf Apr 2016 #17

Or, since we are now playing by the 'rules' the SD's can switch to the more viable candidate Joe the Revelator Apr 2016 #6

If he overcomes her, they will switch, like 2008 nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #7

If Hillary has to rely on superdelegates to secure the nomination, she's toast. reformist2 Apr 2016 #8

As it stands now, Bernie is the one counting on super delegates to secure him the victory. StevieM Apr 2016 #19

And then on Wednesday she'll be leading by over 100 pledged delegates Recursion Apr 2016 #22

This person is bizarre WhaTHellsgoingonhere Apr 2016 #9

And she can easily "lose" her super delegates just as she did to Obama in 2008. imagine2015 Apr 2016 #16

The entire story has been debunked. Hillary will be getting a majority of pledged delegates to StevieM Apr 2016 #20

20 District-Level Delegates are assigned by the Congressional District Caucuses at State Convention w4rma Apr 2016 #23

It's a ridiculous way to select delegates. rug Apr 2016 #21

revbones

(3,660 posts)

1. By "rules" you mean lack of enthusiasm by Hillary followers right?

Reply to Cali_Democrat (Original post)

Sun Apr 3, 2016, 12:42 AM

Apr 2016

Since that's the real reason.

Logical

(22,457 posts)

2. What the hell are you talking about?

Reply to Cali_Democrat (Original post)

Sun Apr 3, 2016, 12:43 AM

Apr 2016

What the hell are you talking about?

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)

5. This

Reply to Logical (Reply #2)

Sun Apr 3, 2016, 12:48 AM

Apr 2016

http://lasvegassun.com/news/2016/apr/02/sanders-wins-most-delegates-at-clark-county-conven/

Logical

(22,457 posts)

10. Great news! Nt

Reply to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #5)

Sun Apr 3, 2016, 12:50 AM

Apr 2016

bvf

(6,604 posts)

3. Rules are rules, yes.

Reply to Cali_Democrat (Original post)

Sun Apr 3, 2016, 12:46 AM

Apr 2016

If you yourself believe that, then why the hell are you putting "lost" in quotes in your title? I have a couple of theories, but you'd be better off just facing facts like a grownup.

It's a loss. Deal with it.

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)

4. A loss where she finishes with more delegates = #berniemath

Reply to bvf (Reply #3)

Sun Apr 3, 2016, 12:48 AM

Apr 2016

Logical

(22,457 posts)

11. You have 11 hidden posts??? Nt

Reply to geek tragedy (Reply #4)

Sun Apr 3, 2016, 12:51 AM

Apr 2016

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)

13. Bye. nt

Reply to Logical (Reply #11)

Sun Apr 3, 2016, 12:52 AM

Apr 2016

Logical

(22,457 posts)

15. I am so sad! Nt

Reply to geek tragedy (Reply #13)

Sun Apr 3, 2016, 12:53 AM

Apr 2016

bvf

(6,604 posts)

18. Sunlight is quite an effective disinfectant, isn't it?

Reply to Logical (Reply #15)

Sun Apr 3, 2016, 12:58 AM

Apr 2016

bvf

(6,604 posts)

12. Spare me.

Reply to geek tragedy (Reply #4)

Sun Apr 3, 2016, 12:52 AM

Apr 2016

Here's math that's hopefully not beyond your reach:

You have 11 hides.

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)

14. Bye. nt

Reply to bvf (Reply #12)

Sun Apr 3, 2016, 12:53 AM

Apr 2016

bvf

(6,604 posts)

17. Aw. Don't go away mad!

Reply to geek tragedy (Reply #14)

Sun Apr 3, 2016, 12:56 AM

Apr 2016

Joe the Revelator

(14,915 posts)

6. Or, since we are now playing by the 'rules' the SD's can switch to the more viable candidate

Reply to Cali_Democrat (Original post)

Sun Apr 3, 2016, 12:49 AM

Apr 2016

You can't just win the south in March and expect to get the nomination.

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)

7. If he overcomes her, they will switch, like 2008

Reply to Cali_Democrat (Original post)

Sun Apr 3, 2016, 12:49 AM

Apr 2016

or face 1968

reformist2

(9,841 posts)

8. If Hillary has to rely on superdelegates to secure the nomination, she's toast.

Reply to Cali_Democrat (Original post)

Sun Apr 3, 2016, 12:49 AM

Apr 2016

StevieM

(10,500 posts)

19. As it stands now, Bernie is the one counting on super delegates to secure him the victory.

Reply to reformist2 (Reply #8)

Sun Apr 3, 2016, 01:01 AM

Apr 2016

Hillary is leading by over 200 pledged delegates.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)

22. And then on Wednesday she'll be leading by over 100 pledged delegates

Reply to StevieM (Reply #19)

Sun Apr 3, 2016, 01:16 AM

Apr 2016

I think any talk of the supers voting against the leader of the pledged delegate count is nonsense, personally.

WhaTHellsgoingonhere

(5,252 posts)

9. This person is bizarre

Reply to Cali_Democrat (Original post)

Sun Apr 3, 2016, 12:50 AM

Apr 2016

29,000 posts like this?

imagine2015

(2,054 posts)

16. And she can easily "lose" her super delegates just as she did to Obama in 2008.

Reply to Cali_Democrat (Original post)

Sun Apr 3, 2016, 12:53 AM

Apr 2016

StevieM

(10,500 posts)

20. The entire story has been debunked. Hillary will be getting a majority of pledged delegates to

Reply to Cali_Democrat (Original post)

Sun Apr 3, 2016, 01:04 AM

Apr 2016

the national convention from Nevada.

But excellent point. If the story was true then this would essentially amount to the equivalent of super delegates.

Then again, Bernie's entire strategy at this point comes down to relying on super delegates. Hillary has a huge lead among pledged delegates.

w4rma

(31,700 posts)

23. 20 District-Level Delegates are assigned by the Congressional District Caucuses at State Convention

Reply to StevieM (Reply #20)

Sun Apr 3, 2016, 01:17 AM

Apr 2016

on June the 4th.

A. District-Level Delegates and Alternates

1. Nevada is allocated 20 district-level delegates and 2 district-level alternates. (Rule 8.C, Call I.B, I.I, Appendix B & Reg. 4.31)
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a. The district-level delegates and alternates shall be elected by a three-tier caucus-to-convention system.

1) The first tier and determining step are the February 20th precinct caucuses, which elect delegates to the county conventions.
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2) The second tier and step of the delegate selection process shall be county conventions, held on April 2nd.
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3) The final tier and step of the delegate selection process shall be the June 4th and 5th state convention.
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C. Pledged Party Leader and Elected Official (PLEO) Delegates

1. Nevada is allotted 4 pledged Party Leader and Elected Official (PLEO) delegates. (Call I.D, E & Appendix B)
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The pledged PLEO slots shall be allocated among presidential preferences on the same basis as the at-large delegates. (Rule 9.B.2, Rule 10.C, Rule 13.E & Rule F)
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D. At-Large Delegates and Alternates

1. The state of Nevada is allotted 7 at-large delegates and 1 at-large alternates. (Rule 8.C, Call I.B, II, Appendix B & Reg. 4.31)
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b. These delegates and alternates will be selected by the state convention as a whole by non-secret signed ballot. (Rule 8.E & Rule 10.B)
http://nvdems.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/NSDP_DelegateSelectionPlan_2016.pdf

rug

(82,333 posts)

21. It's a ridiculous way to select delegates.

Reply to Cali_Democrat (Original post)

Sun Apr 3, 2016, 01:11 AM

Apr 2016

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