2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWith the email investigation not going away, Hillary is gambling with the fate of the nation.
http://www.cnbc.com/2015/03/06/why-hillarys-email-issue-wont-go-away.html"So now we know the Hillary Clinton camp's approach to the email scandal: Pretend to be transparent and then hope everyone forgets about it. It's a deeply cynical approach, and there is some reason to believe it won't work."
https://news.vice.com/article/state-department-review-of-hillary-clintons-emails-on-hold-while-fbi-investigates
"At the request of the FBI, the US State Department has suspended its plans for an internal review of whether former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton properly handled classified material when using her private email server. Clinton, the frontrunner in the race for the Democratic presidential nomination, has apologized for using a private email server for official business while in office from 2009 to 2013. While Clinton insists she did nothing wrong, the FBI is probing the arrangement."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tom-pappalardo/hillary-email-probe-could_b_9579826.html
"The Hillary Clinton email probe is getting very close to becoming another full-blown Clinton scandal. David Shuster of Al Jazeera reported on March 30th that the FBI is arranging interviews with former State Department aides Philippe Reines, Former Clinton Chief of Staff Cheryl Mills, and Clinton herself. Shuster also scooped that Justice Department prosecutors are joining the FBI team of investigators."
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Whether you personally (and probably with insufficient facts as a basis for making any determination on your own) think it is a "nothing" issue, the fact is that this email investigation is not going away soon and will almost certainly be on the table during the GE. The Clintons have seen scandals come and go, Whitewater, Monical Lewinsky, etc. Some of them have resulted in nothing and others have resulted in the first impeachment of a POTUS in our history. But all of them have shown the deep damage that can be caused by the extremity of hatred against them, fed in many cases by a sense that there is some sleazery hanging over them even from members of our own Democratic Party.
In my view, Hillary is the ONLY person that can stop the election of the most Progressive person ever to become POTUS, Bernie Sanders. It is also my view that Hillary, by not admitting that this scandal has great potential to lose the GE for us, wants the position so badly that she is willing to jeapordise the entire election, letting the presidency fall into the hands of the Republicans.
Hillary should do the right thing, if she actually is the Progressive she (sometimes) claims she is. She should bow out of the race and not be the first Democratic candidate targeted by an active FBI investigation while she simultaneously runs for the top position in the country. I can hardly believe that others do not see the sense in this. She is placing her ego before the good of the country and the people in it.
dana_b
(11,546 posts)my opinion doesn't carry much weight. I mean that in all seriousness because I know how that would look to me if the roles were reversed.
I will say that if she wins the nomination and then is indicted, I will be livid with her for letting us lose our only chance at a real progressive President. I do agree that she will never give up though. She cares more about herself than what we need.
highprincipleswork
(3,111 posts)dana_b
(11,546 posts)with many of us Sanders' supporters.
I hope the Hillary people can understand that. I know they think that there is no way that she will be indicted and I actually agree with them. BUT, if for some reason she IS indicted, I hope that it's before the convention.
Bonobo
(29,257 posts)1) Foolishly incompetent with technology and unable to maintain security, and/or
2) So secretive and underhanded that she was willing to knowingly risk state secrets in order to be able to delete, without permission, any emails that might be embarrassing (by calling them 'personal' emails.
dana_b
(11,546 posts)however people who actually even know or care about all of this either 1) already feel that she's secretive and underhanded and don't want her as President or 2) like her anyway and won't care about this.
I'm saying that if she's not indicted, I don't think that it will change most people's opinions on her.
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Bernie needs to get more people to vote for him in the primaries.
Simple.
Easy peasy.
Bernie can't get more people to support him than support Hillary? Then that's on him.
highprincipleswork
(3,111 posts)Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)highprincipleswork
(3,111 posts)ViseGrip
(3,133 posts)grasswire
(50,130 posts)They are risking the election, yes. Why? Aside from ego, we must consider that the largesse to be gained should she win the WH is worth their risk, to them. Riches untold. Power to shape the world at will, using the world's most powerful military.
It's almost Shakespearean. I fear it will end in tragedy, for we the people, if her candidacy continues.
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Check your history and update.
Bonobo
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Note: Edited to fix my error. I had stupidly said Stonewall Jackson.
unc70
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Bonobo
(29,257 posts)99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)Bonobo
(29,257 posts)Hubris sounds about right.
Or maybe a really deep desire to prove her worth or something.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)pinebox
(5,761 posts)That is a pretty powerful article.
I wish that Hillary supporters would wake up and see how damaged their candidate truly is. No amount of crazy glue will fix Hillary.