2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumBe careful what progressive causes you donate to if you are Bernie Supporter...
Learned a group I donated to "End Citizens United" PAC has poured a lot of money into Hillary's hybrid-SuperPac "Ready PAC". Pulled my support and made it clear why in their donation request mailer.
Now have to make sure going forward I research exactly how these groups are spending their money.
https://www.opensecrets.org/outsidespending/contrib.php?cmte=C00540997&cycle=2016
It is the third largest contributor... I am disgusted!!!
edit: added a picture for proof
DanTex
(20,709 posts)revbones
(3,660 posts)to think they'd be progressive otherwise...
DanTex
(20,709 posts)revbones
(3,660 posts)Hilary followers, do just that, they follow their leader, a personality. They want her, regardless of her non-progressive stances.
Bernie supporters, support him because he represents their principled beliefs. If it was someone else, they'd support them too. Hence all the Hillary follow worry about Bernie or Bust scenarios.
But go ahead with your typical "Dodge" or other language parsing comment, which I'm sure is about to follow...
DanTex
(20,709 posts)revbones
(3,660 posts)mak3cats
(1,573 posts)and I for one resent it. So shut your trap because you sound ignorant.
DanTex
(20,709 posts)the will of the voters was overturned by some procedural shenanigans at the convention. Before that Bernie supporters all over DU were repeating the lie that corporations were donating to Hillary's campaign. And a day doesn't go by without three or four links to right-wing media bashing Hillary.
So I call it as I see it. If Bernie fans care about progressive principles, they're doing a pretty good job of hiding it.
mak3cats
(1,573 posts)DanTex
(20,709 posts)Kentonio
(4,377 posts)That suddenly FAUX OUTRAGE!! when the boot is on the other foot. It sucks when your candidate isn't getting a fair shot isn't it.
DanTex
(20,709 posts)overturned. I get that Bernie fans don't care, but superdelegates are actual Democrats. And Bernie hasn't done a very good job winning them over so far. I doubt that the dirty stuff is going to help him with that.
Kentonio
(4,377 posts)Even the media are finally acknowledging how deeply the DNC was in the bag for Hillary with the ridiculous initial debate scedules and so on.
Sorry but your crying now just sounds like rank hypocricy when even now you pretend as if the race was in any way fair before.
Enjoy Wisconsin.
basselope
(2,565 posts)After all, she doesn't even understand the term.
mak3cats
(1,573 posts)HassleCat
(6,409 posts)Because Hillary Clinton is the True Progressive, as we all know.
whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)libtodeath
(2,888 posts)mak3cats
(1,573 posts)SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)RedCappedBandit
(5,514 posts)jeff47
(26,549 posts)That way we can continue to enjoy your efforts at elevating the discussion here at DU.
merrily
(45,251 posts)The jokes just write themselves.
Wednesdays
(17,391 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)TDale313
(7,820 posts)Directly to candidates I support.
merrily
(45,251 posts)The party mechanisms all stack the deck against liberals.
MH1
(17,600 posts)For example, PP's political arm endorsed Hillary (which I understand, btw), but I contribute to PPFA which is a separate org that supports what they actually do - clinics and so forth.
I think an easy way to tell the difference is if your contribution is fully tax-deductible. In that case your contribution can't be used for political activity.
Please note I am undecided and not "anti" either of our candidates, although I am leaning one way. (today. Tomorrow it could be the other way.)
noretreatnosurrender
(1,890 posts)You really have to be very careful because as we've seen in this election saying you're progressive and being progressive are vastly different things. I mean just look at the Hillary campaign. We KNOW her campaign is not progressive even though she tries to convince people of it. Hell she's even resorted to copying Bernie's positions just to fool people. Thanks for posting this and reminding people.
GeorgiaPeanuts
(2,353 posts)On the open secrets page for the PAC it lists all the candidates it has supported, but it doesn't show donations to other PACs and SuperPacs there so you have to search through all of the individual Clinton SuperPacs to find this information.
So frustrating!
GeorgiaPeanuts
(2,353 posts)MisterP
(23,730 posts)THERE'S A PICTURE OF THE POST ON THE POST ITSELF THE COSMOS IS BROKEN AGAIN
Fuddnik
(8,846 posts)30 replies, I see 7. And not the one you mentioned.
PowerToThePeople
(9,610 posts)but have not donated to them yet. I feel good about it now. Yes, many people are going to want to get on the Bernie train of progressive financial support. We need to be very careful not to mistakenly fund those who work against our interests.